Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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How likely is it that the Afghanis acquire weapons capable of really hitting Pakistan like drones or manpads and use them to hit our jets and airbases? Pretty sure there are many big countries willing to provide them afghans for free.
They might a threat to drones but not jets since they fly much higher.
 
How likely is it that the Afghanis acquire weapons capable of really hitting Pakistan like drones or manpads and use them to hit our jets and airbases? Pretty sure there are many big countries willing to provide them afghans for free.

I can give a AK-47 to a monkey.
 
Is it possible they went quiet on the western border due to the threat from the east. Whatever this should be a pause and nothing more until the afghan Taliban surrender and take a complete change in their stance regarding ttp but I'm afraid our leadership just doesn't have the guts for it. Do everything take wakhan (give it back later. No afghan territory is needed) capture a Taliban leader to heavily humiliate them publicly so they come out of their face saving and move towards actually accepting our demands
 
Pickups laiden with explosives going off everywhere in Pakistan.
Yes I have been checking flight radars, there is no Aerial military aerial activity anywhere from India.

This can only be internal sabotages. If true, this should be more the reason to pound the Taliban in full force.
 
Instead of the usual defensive guerrilla war against an occupying power; for the FIRST time the Taliban are engaging in a conventional open warfare against a patriotic professional army defending its territory. Historically Afghanistan and Afghans ( regardless of any form or shape what is today known as Afghanistan has existed) have never EVER been successful in any war with Muslim adversaries, from the Turks, Iranians, Timur, Babar, Nadir Shah etc.
In 1947 the Afghans attacked Pakistan at its most vulnerable moment when Pakistan had a depleted army with no armor, infantry fighting vehicles, or an air force with ground attack capabilities. Pakistan was already heavily engaged fighting India in Kashmir, The Afghans used proxies as well as direct attacks. The Afghans were crushed in days.
Afghanistan is trying to invade a country that has a professional army trained to fight an enemy 7 times superior in numbers. They have sown the wind
A punishment by Pakistan is likely to be far more severe than what the Taliban could ever have estimated
What folks don't understand or realize is that "Afghanistan" as a state didn't exist until the around the 1840s when the Barakzai dynasty formed it.

Before that point, there was no "Afghanistan" in the sense of a nation state, but rather, the land was home to many different dynastic leaders who ruled parts of modern day Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, and other surrounding regions. It was never as one united bloc, but a flux of both small and big powers (e.g., Samanis, Ghaznavis, Delhi Sultanate, Mughals, etc).

None of these great dynasties saw or called themselves "Afghans" nor did any of them have a mission of building an "Afghanistan" or "Afghan" empire or whatever.

So, this BS about them being the graveyard of empires and stuff is just that, BS. If such ideas held true, then Islam wouldn't have spread to them via the Arabs, Persians, and Turkic folks who ruled lands that make "Afghanistan" for centuries and centuries.

Not only that, but this land at one point was also under the brutal occupation of Mongol hordes, during which refugees flowed into the lands we now know today as Pakistan when it was under the Delhi Sultanate.

The Delhi Sultanate in fact spearheaded the resistance against the Mongols in this period, leveraging the expertise of the refugees (some of whom were Pakhtun, others Persians, Turkic, Khorasani, etc) while adding India's resources and manpower into the mix to fight the Mongol hordes many, many times.

Afghans, like the rest of humanity, are just a bunch of humans. There's nothing special or unique about them, and no, they didn't 'sink' the Soviets or Americans or NATO. With USSR, for example, it was a combination of Afghan fighters, Saudi money, Pakistani support, and US coordination that sunk the Soviets.

And with the US, the Americans came in and scattered these guys into the caves. Yes, the US didn't have the stomach to deal with the constant insurgency, but they also couldn't build any legitimacy with any of the locals either. The US was totally alien to the region and shared nothing with the locals.

Pakistan, OTOH, shares the wider historical identity and is of the region. It's native. And Pakistanis have the wherewithal to absorb damage (as we had in the COIN/CT ops in the 2010s) and our Pakistan Army knows how to fight cave to cave, stone-to-stone (@Blain2) as we had under Lt. Gen Tariq Khan.

Our men lack as much fear in death as their counterparts in the Taliban and are GROUNDED to the land as they were born there. They're sons of the soil too. For every 1 of ours down we will also produce 10.

So, whatever come of this conflict, there's no analogy or parallel to the USSR or the US. The tragedy, IMO, is that our Pakistani leadership doesn't carry a great vision when it prepares to make big sacrifices like this.

Afghanistan as a nation-state entity is a failure -- it's people are all dependents on others like Pakistan. We basically get all of the burden and none of the material benefits that could be used to better both Afghans and Pakistanis from this relationship.

Plus, with any people, you can't solve things with just the sword. Yes, we need to fight and deal with things militarily, 100%, but we also need to build roots in Afghanistan and unify, ensuring that whatever emerges in the future sees itself as part of Pakistan's fabric. If it's our territory, we can 100% eliminate external Indian influence (rather, now, our interface changes to facing Central Asia, Russia, etc directly).

Otherwise we'll constantly end up with the same damn situation over and over again, i.e., you clear the place of X, then Y comes in and backstabs us, and we're back to square-one.
 
The Afghans deadly weapon is the suice bomber. It doesn't take much for Afghans to strap a bomb on them and blow up a market.

That works when one is motivated to liberate their own country, harder to enter another country and do that. Some will get through, another reason to deport every single Afghan leech asap.
 
How likely is it that the Afghanis acquire weapons capable of really hitting Pakistan like drones or manpads and use them to hit our jets and airbases? Pretty sure there are many big countries willing to provide them afghans for free.
nobody would provide those to Taliban, not even India. No way in hell anyone would do that no matter what. Anything can be traced back to any country these days.

These are probably suicide bombers.
 
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The reason why this is happening is because of Pakistan's policy of "restraint". The same reason why india attacked Pakistan in May 2025.

Most don't realize but Pakistan has a lot of power and clout that it NEVER uses. Because of this, foreigners especially afghans and indians see this as a sign of weakness and racial inferiority. This thinking is further reinforced when Pakistanis talk about "Muslim brotherhood" and "good relations" with india. What Pakistanis don't realise is that afghans, indians and other foreigners see Pakistani hospitality and goodness as a sign of weakness and racial inferiority. The Pakistani mind CANNOT comprehend this kind of mentality as Pakistanis THEMSELVES do not have this attitude. Naive Pakistanis think the rest of the world is as kind hearted, hospitable and good as we are but they are NOT. Pakistanis don't understand that the different races think and behave VERY differently to us. For nearly 5 DECADES Pakistan has been helping, sustaining and appeasing afghans to the point that they now believe it is their god-given racial right to take over Pakistan and murder 10s of 1000s of Pakistanis with impunity. Now that Pakistan is fighting back and smashing the afghans to smithereens, the afghan mind has gone into shock and CANNOT believe what is happening. They CANNOT fathom or comprehend that we are militarily and technologically FAR FAR superior to them that Pakistan could wipe afghanistan off the face of the universe with ease. Had Pakistan shown A FRACTION of this strength decades ago, this situation would NEVER have arisen. It is the same shock that the indians suffered in operation sindoor after their military defeat to Pakistan.

At this point I would be happy for Pakistan to nuke afghanistan and kill millions of them. I do not care if their women and children are killed too. For what the afghans have done to Pakistan, they MORE than deserve being nuked by us.

Pakistanis need to GET OUT of the attitude of "Mulsim/Islamic brotherhood" or "good relations" with india. NONE of this works and it ALWAYS gets used against Pakistan at the cost of our people and nation.

PAKISTAN FOREVER and PAKISTAN FIRST!!!!!!!................ :pakistan: :pakistan: :pakistan: :pakistan: :pakistan: :pakistan: :pakistan: :pakistan: :pakistan: :pakistan: :pakistan: NOTHING else matters!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
That works when one is motivated to liberate their own country, harder to enter another country and do that. Some will get through, another reason to deport every single Afghan leech asap.
Remember the terrible days of suicide bombings across Pakistan every other day.
 
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