Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[Blain2]

Our military hasn't given much info about ongoing operations and understandably so. Nobody knows if PAF is flying over Afghanistan or not but almost certainly drones will be.

We have to think about this logically. Why would PAF be flying over Afghanistan?
All the footage from the air is from the UCAVs used.
What benefit does Pakistan derive from flying its manned aircraft over Afghanistan when both sides are now looking to tamp down the tensions?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I dont have that much info about daesh or ISKP in pakistan but is there presence that big?...i have seen iskp millitants caught by agencies which are recruited from central asia and russia but not Pakistanis

they just swap caps, which ever organization is the buzz of the town they will join it. some swap between different organizations. their origin is either Sipah Sahabah or Lashkar Jhangvi then they migrated to either Al Qaeda or called themselves TTP. after the Daesh started making international news then some of them made the Afghan and Pakistani chapters.

all in all they all share Takfiri ideology, are extremists and have experience of killing civilians and government officials.

 

[Waterboy]

Neither I nor the PTI have said that the demands brought up by the TTP in Tirah are acceptable, nor do I agree that the negotiations we have seen so far are the same as a national consensus on proceeding with province/national level talks that are clearly defined in terms of objectives.

Again, this is something the Fauj, GoKP and GoP have to get together and hash out - what are the compromises that can be made and what the red lines are. Once that is ironed out, establish the ‘day after’ response in case of failure (likely).

If this impasse (between PTI and Fauj) is to be resolved, the parties have to compromise with each other, and the onus for compromise and talks is on the Fauj, given the national power dynamics everyone is aware of.

I think the fauj has been trying to resolve it, by asking khan to tone down his rhetoric and wait till 2028/29 elections. Also if fauj give concession, it needs guarantees that khan wouldn't lay siege to the capital and burn down the entire system. This may minus all our little economic and geopolitical gains. Khan sahab doesn't really have a good record of keeping promises and he might take u turns.

 

[Waz]

Not a single Afghan woman wants to live under the barbarians. Hindutva welcome Taliban barbarians with open arms. The world has seen it.

Yep not one. They're nuts. I feel for them.

 

[Waz]

We also shoved a bit of this ideology on the Afghans because of our own Islamization in the 80s/90s. Some of this is on us but their people were ready to consume it too just as many Pakistanis did. Saudi and Irani influences impacted both Pakistan and Afghanistan.

However that aside, the predecessors of the Taliban were just as or even more spiteful towards Pakistan.

Awkwardly, they love their occupiers i.e., Russians and Americans (who invaded them, disrespected their culture, women and corrupted their youth) more and hate us Pakistanis (for hosting their refugees, aiding their freedom struggle) only bc Pakistan wanted to watch over its own interests and protect its rear on the west. That meant giving Pakhtuns preference and the Tajik/Uzbeks and their mouthpieces never forgave Pakistan for that. Pashtuns in Afghanistan were never reconciled with the DL division so you have a healthy stew of Pakistan haters in Afghanistan.

At the very fundamental level, I think a lot of their national hate is also due to their jealousy over Pakistan because for the most part Pakistan works Alhamdolillah and they can't get over us darker, lowly British slaves (as per their propaganda) getting ahead.

I say the above having had some interactions with Afghans while studying overseas. Many of their elite in the West had a very arrogant, dismissive view of Pakistan/Pakistanis. However, politics aside, Afghans were/are also some of the nicest, kindest people. I cannot take that away from them.

For sure Pakistan also bares fault here no doubt about it. Mix that with existing hate among the crazy ultra nationals and you have what you.
But yes I have met many who are very nice. Sad to see all this.

 

[Tamerlane]

The reason why everyone is pulling their hair and failing to come up with a solution is because there’s no functioning system of justice in Pakistan.

In any civilized country troublemakers are tried in court and put in jail. But not in Pakistan. For one thing, no one accepts court decisions because they’re not considered genuine. A corrupt and dysfunctional legal system suits the rulers because they themselves are involved in breaking the law.

The solution is to create a proper judicial system that everyone trusts. Then round up all the trouble makers and lock them up for a long time.

It means building jails to house 100,000 criminals or more. Pakistan is swarming with criminals, including in the corridors of power. What is needed is to catch all of them and put them in concentration camps.

But that would require a legitimate government. That’s the problem. The people who’ve seized power in Pakistan won’t allow that. So, while there are solutions for all problems, the rulers won’t allow them to be implemented.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Situation remains tense on Pak-Afghan border; hostilities can resume ‘at any time’: Khawaja Asif​

Dawn.com

Defence Minister Khawaja Muhammad Asif looks on during an interview with Reuters in Islamabad, April 28. — Reuters/FIle
Defence Minister Khawaja Asif said on Monday that as of today, there are “no ties” between Islamabad and Kabul in the fallout of Afghanistan’s unprovoked attack on the Pak-Afghan border over the weekend.

“It’s a stalemate right now. You can say there are no active hostilities, but the environment is hostile,” Asif said on Geo News programme ‘Aaj Shahzeb Khanzada ke Saath’.

“There are no ties, direct or indirect, as of today.”

Asif said hostilities between the two sides can resume “at any time”. “We can not rule that out, but there is certainly a lull in hostilities.

“We cannot lower our guard,” warned the defence minister.

When asked if Islamabad will negotiate with Kabul, Asif replied that if Afghanistan wants negotiations while threatening Pakistan at the same time, “then they should act on their threats and we’ll negotiate after”.

“This is a natural thing. If you are attacked, you instantly have the right to react and target wherever the attack is originating from,” the defence minister explained.

“We did not target populated areas, we did not target civilians, we targeted their hideouts.”

“The world knows that there is a conglomerate of international terrorism in Afghanistan, where ISIS, Al Qaeda and the Taliban are active. They are all under Kabul’s umbrella,” he added.

“Who will believe Muttaqi? The Indians might, but they also know that these people are not controlled by anyone.”

When asked if Tehreek-i-Taliban chief Noor Wali Mehsud was in Afghan territory, Asif replied: “Those we targeted, we targeted in their territory. When I went two-and-a-half, three years ago, they said they would relocate these people. He wasn’t on the moon; he was in Afghanistan.”

“The offer was there. I think there needs to be honesty in diplomacy — it’s not there 100 per cent of the time, but if there is some, it would improve the matter and pave the way to resolution,” he added.

​

 

[safriz]

At the moment the Taliban are doing what they did to USA and every world power. They send in a few guys with Kalashinkov , and they do something and disappera. To retaliate that the other side has to send in Jets costing thousands of dollars per hour in flight costs and other hundreds of thousands in Munition costs.
This should be a total artillery and Drone war from Pakistan side and people should be targeted not Infrastructure and Taliban need no Iinfra, just people.

 

[safriz]

Situation remains tense on Pak-Afghan border; hostilities can resume ‘at any time’: Khawaja Asif​

Dawn.com

Defence Minister Khawaja Muhammad Asif looks on during an interview with Reuters in Islamabad, April 28. — Reuters/FIle
Defence Minister Khawaja Asif said on Monday that as of today, there are “no ties” between Islamabad and Kabul in the fallout of Afghanistan’s unprovoked attack on the Pak-Afghan border over the weekend.

“It’s a stalemate right now. You can say there are no active hostilities, but the environment is hostile,” Asif said on Geo News programme ‘Aaj Shahzeb Khanzada ke Saath’.

“There are no ties, direct or indirect, as of today.”

Asif said hostilities between the two sides can resume “at any time”. “We can not rule that out, but there is certainly a lull in hostilities.

“We cannot lower our guard,” warned the defence minister.

When asked if Islamabad will negotiate with Kabul, Asif replied that if Afghanistan wants negotiations while threatening Pakistan at the same time, “then they should act on their threats and we’ll negotiate after”.

“This is a natural thing. If you are attacked, you instantly have the right to react and target wherever the attack is originating from,” the defence minister explained.

“We did not target populated areas, we did not target civilians, we targeted their hideouts.”

“The world knows that there is a conglomerate of international terrorism in Afghanistan, where ISIS, Al Qaeda and the Taliban are active. They are all under Kabul’s umbrella,” he added.

“Who will believe Muttaqi? The Indians might, but they also know that these people are not controlled by anyone.”

When asked if Tehreek-i-Taliban chief Noor Wali Mehsud was in Afghan territory, Asif replied: “Those we targeted, we targeted in their territory. When I went two-and-a-half, three years ago, they said they would relocate these people. He wasn’t on the moon; he was in Afghanistan.”

“The offer was there. I think there needs to be honesty in diplomacy — it’s not there 100 per cent of the time, but if there is some, it would improve the matter and pave the way to resolution,” he added.

​

At least 23 Pakistani troops were martyredand more than 200 Taliban and affiliated terrorists were killed in border clashes following an attack from the Afghan side late on Saturday night.

The Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), in a statement, said overnight skirmishes between the two sides, began “on the night of Oct 11/12, 2025, [after] Afghan Taliban and India-sponsored Fitna-al-Khawarij launched an unprovoked attack on Pakistan, along the Pak-Afghan border”.

Fitna-al-Khawarij is a term the state uses for terrorists belonging to the banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) while Fitna-al-Hindustan is a term designated by the state for terrorist organisations in Balochistan.

“During overnight skirmishes, 23 brave sons of Pakistan embraced shahadat (martyrdom) while defending the territorial integrity of our beloved country against this outrageous action, while 29 soldiers [were] injured.“

“According to credible intelligence estimates and damage assessment, more than 200 Taliban and affiliated terrorists have been neutralised, while the number of injured is much higher,” the ISPR statement said.

Afghanistan claims it carried out the attack as a “retaliatory” measure, accusing Islamabad of conducting air strikes in its territory earlier this week. For its part, Islamabad has not confirmed whether it was behind the air strikes but maintains that Kabul should “stop harbouring the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan on its soil”.

Providing further details, the ISPR said 21 hostile positions on the Afghan side of the border were also briefly physically captured and multiple terrorist training camps, used to plan and facilitate attacks against Pakistan, were rendered inoperative.

“The infra-structural damages to Taliban posts, camps, headquarters and support networks of terrorists are extensive, all along the border and range from tactical to operational depth.”.

“The armed forces of Pakistan remain ever ready to protect the territorial integrity, life and property of the people of Pakistan. Our resolve to defend Pakistan’s territorial integrity and to defeat those who threaten our security is unwavering.”

I ignore the whisky Dementia minister. Nothing he says is authentic or even makes sense.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Great - which means they will either land in Parachinar or Hayatabad depending on the winds, missile control surface flutter and whatever actual target the Taliban set.

If it fires

or maybe take them out in their deployment stage.
just looked up they maybe the soviet era R-17..
since they are liquid fueled so I wonder if they are already filled up to cut down deployment time but after reaching their destination they will need from 10/20 minutes (if already fueled) to about an hour to fuel and to erect and prepare for launch
like you mentioned Taliban wont worry about much precision, they would just lob these missiles.

I can guess Taliban wont be too bothered with security protocols so I guess they will be transporting them fueled with very unstable oxidizer to cut down launch time.

it will be really something if these launch trucks are intercepted on their way or in their deployment phase by PAF UCAV or Jets.

 

[user]

Stumbled upon this. I guess Khyber Storm was called off.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Mossad and CIA has already inflitrated our military and installed government. the details of the promises to join the Abraham accords is going to be kept a secret. A few times now when Trump held a joint presser with Netanyahu, Asim Munir and Shabaz were mentioned in a positive light.. something is very suspect here and it's not the mineral deals or the offer to sell Pasni port to the Americans.


The TLP protests could have been dealt with peacefully but this brutal chief is determined to outdo General Sisi for human rights abuses

TLP was asleep for 2 years when the war in GAZA was going on? seriously ? do tell how this these thugs serve Islam by attacking public and private property and torching vehicles and shops? they killed and injured policemen as well.

 

[Toxic]

Great - which means they will either land in Parachinar or Hayatabad depending on the winds, missile control surface flutter and whatever actual target the Taliban set.

If it fires

If we are being serious. If they are in good enough condition to be launched then they can be a cause for concern if aimed at any urban center. Scuds were essentially terror weapons.

 

[iron shrapnel]

No sir we are part farsiban.

I see, fatahjang, talagang and chakwal have green eye genes with light hair... Some pashtun and kaelash have them as well... Rest I'm not aware...

 

[Master Chief]

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simple demands right?

These maa fing jirgas!!!