Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

[Baadil]

Pakistan is not like the Arab countries, we’re supposed to be a role model for the Islamic world

This reasoning does not work with those on the nationalist pipeline. Consider first, how are "national interests" defined?

Pak-USA ties reset back to the 80s. Good work Sharifs and fauj.

What are you going on about. The priority for Pakistan now is to build its economy. Don't have time to worry about what's going on half a world away. They did what they could.

So, Pakistan should get involved in what's going on half a world away or should not get involved in what's going on half a world away?

If Pakistan were more economically stronger and independently capable of supporting itself, it wouldn’t have to make such statements.

There is no guarantee that the means being sought for economic strength will lead to greater independence. There is no absolute causal relationship. An argument of necessity could be made, by one-dimensionalists, that is.

 

[RocketLaw]

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You can criticise Shehbaz Sharif as much as you like but he clearly stole the show at the peace summit in Egypt. Trump was full of praise for Pakistan. What a huge change in fortunes from Biden days when he refused to make even a phone call to Pakistani PM Imran, who foolishly supported the regressive Taliban regime. I disagree with those who are criticising him for praising Trump. Pakistan is acting in its self-interest. A big advantage of dramatically improved US-Pakistan ties is that Pakistan has been de-hyphenated with extremism and terrorism. This is major diplomatic gain whether we like the hybrid set-up or not. And i say this as someone who has criticised every government in the past few decades for wrong policies. Pakistan's pivot to the US in Pakistan's interests. Foreign policy cannot be run on emotions and whims.

 

[WildApache]

What exactly would you like me to read again, ffs...

Who says that !sraelis were PoW's?

The ones taken by Hamas were Hostages, so please stop referring to them as PoW's - just 'cause you've got bleeding heart for the hell they endured.

In the context of an ongoing conflict, soldiers are classified as prisoners of war (POWs), while civilians and other hostages are considered hostages.

• Hostages are typically taken captive outside of war for ransom or other purposes, and they may include civilians and soldiers.
  
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• POWs are soldiers captured by an enemy force during battle and are protected under international humanitarian law

 

[The SC]

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[Baadil]

Pakistan is acting in its self-interest.

This reasoning does not work with those on the nationalist pipeline. Consider first, how are "national interests" defined?

@Respect4Respect see what I mean?

 

[The SC]

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[The SC]

Urgent

Trump:
This deal is the greatest ever
We want life to replace death, harmony to replace hatred, and unity to replace division
We will work to rebuild Gaza with the contribution of great and wealthy countries
Gaza after its reconstruction will be a demilitarized zone
There will be no World War III breaking out from the Middle East
It is not necessary that we work to implement the provisions of the Gaza Plan in order
We will work to ensure that the Middle East is a safe and peaceful region

 

[Shags101]

Urgent

Trump:
This deal is the greatest ever
We want life to replace death, harmony to replace hatred, and unity to replace division
We will work to rebuild Gaza with the contribution of great and wealthy countries
Gaza after its reconstruction will be a demilitarized zone
There will be no World War III breaking out from the Middle East
It is not necessary that we work to implement the provisions of the Gaza Plan in order
We will work to ensure that the Middle East is a safe and peaceful region

Yeah I really don’t trust the guy he lies way to much to ever be believed but maybe this is the one time The Boy Who Cried Wolf is actually telling the truth if he is Arab states are offering trump and his family something far more valuable for him to go along with all of this

 

[The SC]

 

[Jango]

To be fair to "chota" Sharif. He was asked to make an impromptu speech without script or telepromptor by the most powerful man in the world. Of course, considering Pakistan's position, the words were sycophantic. However, remember, during Biden years, Israel was given free reign and Pakistan was ignored.

Like Trump or not, he gets shit done.

Trump's willing to be outright corrupt in order to get things done. Everyone who toes the line gets a piece of the pie and everyone is happy. There's no room for niceties and diplomatic finesse.

 

[Jango]

Just saw the full sequence.

Trump asked Shahbaz to basically repeat the praises he gave the other day to him personally, in public, so Trump can get his narcissistic high.

Shocking.

 

[Oscar]

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Whenever my wife mentions our “upcoming” vacation plans in public

 

[Jango]

IK on one side - other than acting full twink for Taliban I wonder what Modi fanboys are listening to these days

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They're probably having an aneurysm by now.

Shocking how India's foreign policy has gone so quickly to trash. Some of it can be attributed to the Pak-Indo fight, but it's mostly due to India standing up to Trump's tariffs.

Would be interesting to see how this plays out long term, for both of us.

 

[Oscar]

They're probably having an aneurysm by now.

Shocking how India's foreign policy has gone so quickly to trash. Some of it can be attributed to the Pak-Indo fight, but it's mostly due to India standing up to Trump's tariffs.

Would be interesting to see how this plays out long term, for both of us.

Only the one with a combination of strong economy with a strong system and a united people with succeed.

Otherwise you can see what good stable economic lifelines like aplenty oil got certain countries.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

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So they'll make theirs and millions of Pakistani lives miserable. Rule vicariously through fiat and murder Pakistanis to keep a criminal colonial entity with a limited lifespan.
They have made life living hell to shove this down the throats of those who wouldn't accept this abomination. Killed and murdered with impunity... tortured people to change their minds or just silenced them...

Who is this eager to cause their lives to become so miserable for an entity that exists with a knee on Palestinian necks. These bubbles that seclude them and away from public opinion... that don't cate for their ultimate judgement... burning more bridges to establish one for the demon king....