Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

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Their behaviour in harboring TTP and BLA terrorists is to a large degree explained by the ancient Pashtun code of Pashtunwali which puts a huge emphasis on giving refuge to anyone who seeks it. Mullah Umer sacrificed the whole country to American bombing instead of handing over Osama Bin Laden.

Pashtunwali is a good code to follow. However, sometimes it goes against Islamic law when criminals are given refuge when Islam requires that criminals must be punished. In those cases, some hardliners give preference to their tribal code over Islamic law.

An interesting thing is that Pashtunwali has been found to have commonalities with the Jewish Law of Moses.

Key principles of Pashtunwali
  • Melmestia (Hospitality): A fundamental duty to welcome, protect, and care for guests, regardless of who they are.
  • Badal (Revenge): The obligation to seek retribution for a wrong committed against one's honor, family, or property.
  • Nanawatai (Asylum): The duty to grant and protect those who seek refuge, even if they are an enemy, as explained in this YouTube video.
  • Nang (Honor): A central concept that is often tied to the protection of zan (woman), zar (wealth/gold), and zameen (land).
  • Respect for elders and family: Emphasis on respecting elders and honoring parents.

Sick to death of the creating this fake mythical image of the noble Afghan warrior. It is BS.

When fighting foreign occuopation yes, when helping bklow up kids in schools, fcuk them and fcuk their Pashtunwali.

Hope they are burning slowly in their clapped out ancient tanks.
 
It's why I said certain areas. Across 99% of the border, they're worthless. They're only effectively in dug in positions that have hardened shelters, or are camouflaged.
so, effective only when invisible

cant win posts from that position, can only loose.. only a matter of time
 
He can ask for asylum in India. May be we should send all the afghans in Pakistan to India as they are “brothers” now.
He would have to fly a long way . All the way to Moscow and then to Dushambe and then try to sneak in to Kabul. Is it illegal under the Vienna convention to shoot down an aircraft carrying a terrorist? A Libyan airlines plane was shot down carrying a Palestinian "terrorist " in the 1980s if I remember correctly.
 
Still you know people arent wrong when they call them Namak Haram. Trade inside Afghanistan still takes places with USD and PKR as currency as domestic currency isnt worth the paper its printed on.

Talk about biting the hand that feeds.
 
It's not like Hamid Karzai and Ashraf Ghani were any friendly with Pakistan. They both allowed, welcomed India to operate in Afghanistan against Pakistan.
So establishment made the best bet, with all information available, and choose Talib.
And even that backfired. Quiet telling about the whole country.
Yes!

Absolutely bang on the mark.

And guess what?

This is why Hindustan just handed us South Asia on a fkin plate.

The Talibs' opposition groups in Afg are absolutely LIVID with Hindustan, literally fuming with the saffron scum. Now, thanks to Modi's ignorant brand of politics, where principle counts for nothing but short-term interest means everything, Hindustan has shot itself in the foot.

Think about it broadly - hitherto, Pakistan allied with the global pariah movement out of a desire to thwart Hindustan's goals of encircling us. Hindustan, naturally, allied with the globally more accepted groups.

Suddenly, out of the blue, Hindustan chose to visibly court the cavemen, leaving Pakistan to exercise a free role with any opposition of its choice, or even all or them! There will no longer be global opposition to Pakistan's choice of allies, while India's choice could plausibly even draw sanctions.

India has allowed its emotions over earlier losses to get the better of it and it threw all patience and rationale out of the window, looking for a quick score.

Not only will the Kabul regime lose this battle militarily, depriving Delhi of that quick score, but Delhi will now forever have lost the Ahmad Shah Massoud loyalists and various other NFA tribes because they will never trust Delhi again. They learned today that Delhi will use ANYONE against Islamabad, absolutely ANYONE, so any words coming out of Modi's mouth are meaningless.

As a side note, does anyone honestly think this own goal would have been done by a semi-literate Indian government such as Congress? Only an illiterate tea seller could bring such rewards.

@Meengla @Hakikat ve Hikmet
 
I say yes, lets do to Aghanistan what Israelis and US did to Syria.

Get a buffer zone like they did with Golan Heights,

Let US take Bagram

Destroy any airbase and major army barracks

Let the Warlords rule

Make the whole sh*thole ungovernable where they then fight each other and forget about Pakistan

Should have done this years ago
 
More air pounding to come.
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Yes!

Absolutely bang on the mark.

And guess what?

This is why Hindustan just handed us South Asia on a fkin plate.

The Talibs' opposition groups in Afg are absolutely LIVID with Hindustan, literally fuming with the saffron scum. Now, thanks to Modi's ignorant brand of politics, where principle counts for nothing but short-term interest means everything, Hindustan has shot itself in the foot.

Think about it broadly - hitherto, Pakistan allied with the global pariah movement out of a desire to thwart Hindustan's goals of encircling us. Hindustan, naturally, allied with the globally more accepted groups.

Suddenly, out of the blue, Hindustan chose to visibly court the cavemen, leaving Pakistan to exercise a free role with any opposition of its choice, or even all or them! There will no longer be global opposition to Pakistan's choice of allies, while India's choice could plausibly even draw sanctions.

India has allowed its emotions over earlier losses to get the better of it and it threw all patience and rationale out of the window, looking for a quick score.

Not only will the Kabul regime lose this battle militarily, depriving Delhi of that quick score, but Delhi will now forever have lost the Ahmad Shah Massoud loyalists and various other NFA tribes because they will never trust Delhi again. They learned today that Delhi will use ANYONE against Islamabad, absolutely ANYONE, so any words coming out of Modi's mouth are meaningless.

As a side note, does anyone honestly think this own goal would have been done by a semi-literate Indian government such as Congress? Only an illiterate tea seller could bring such rewards.

@Meengla @Hakikat ve Hikmet

Amazing to think the Indians up until 5 years ago had a Pro Indian Afghan, Bangladesh, Sri Lankan and Nepalese Governments. Now look....
 
Their behaviour in harboring TTP and BLA terrorists is to a large degree explained by the ancient Pashtun code of Pashtunwali which puts a huge emphasis on giving refuge to anyone who seeks it. Mullah Umer sacrificed the whole country to American bombing instead of handing over Osama Bin Laden.

Pashtunwali is a good code to follow. However, sometimes it goes against Islamic law when criminals are given refuge when Islam requires that criminals must be punished. In those cases, some hardliners give preference to their tribal code over Islamic law.

An interesting thing is that Pashtunwali has been found to have commonalities with the Jewish Law of Moses.

Key principles of Pashtunwali
  • Melmestia (Hospitality): A fundamental duty to welcome, protect, and care for guests, regardless of who they are.
  • Badal (Revenge): The obligation to seek retribution for a wrong committed against one's honor, family, or property.
  • Nanawatai (Asylum): The duty to grant and protect those who seek refuge, even if they are an enemy, as explained in this YouTube video.
  • Nang (Honor): A central concept that is often tied to the protection of zan (woman), zar (wealth/gold), and zameen (land).
  • Respect for elders and family: Emphasis on respecting elders and honoring parents.
With absolute respect (and I totally mean it). Tihs is all great on paper and the last one, is an absolute must. But coming to first 4 rules, when dealing internationally in today's world, those 4 should be measured against prudence and rationality. Otherwise you end up in some very bad options just to keep up the customs.

For instance, Taliban had no need to double down on not giving up OBL in 2021, neither did they have to Double down on not giving up TLP Leadership to Pakistan and continue hosting them, now. Justice and consideration for others should be considered otherwise it becomes a test for the other party as to how long they can bear it.

I do not mean to say anything against Pashtun culture at all, but these things are fine at local levels, but not at international relations or when other party (like Pakistan in this case) are unnecessarily suffering. Sticking to customs cannot always be a good thing, but sometimes changes and some room for consideration should be a must, especially when the other side needs justice to be done !
 
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