China hits back at Canada with fresh agriculture tariffs

[Viet]

The reason for the fall of the Ming Dynasty was the vicious party strife. The reason for the fall of the Qing Dynasty was the closeddoor policy and the widespread drug problem. The external enemies of the Ming and Qing Dynasties were not the main cause, but only the inducement. Any empireishes due to internal problems, and foreign enemies only kick down the last straw of a broken house.

yes, of course internal weakness leads to external weakness. Probably that´s why CCP wants to maintain the iron fist at home since Mao Zedong whatever the costs.

by the way, without the collapse of the Ming and the Qing, Vietnam southwards expansion would not be possible. Viet Nam gave the Chinese refugees lands and rights in the new territories. Vietnam landmass would be much smaller mostly concentrated on the northern part. so looking from that view, the weakness of China brings sometimes positive thing.

 

[ety]

You can’t compare the collapse of Chinese dynasties to projected collapse of US imperialism. That’s a misjudgment. Different shoes. As for politics, Trump will go out of office in 3.5 years. There will be a change towards the left wing. US military complex, US companies will remain intact, untouched whoever in the White House. You compare that to Putin’s Russia and Kim’s North Korea. Those countries with one man rule.

The fall of Ming dynasty had much to do with the rise of the Mongol, so the Qing with rise of the West, with Japan imperialism. those Chinese emperors or the Eunuchs failed to see the tide coming. But anyway to be correct, any Chinese dynasty lasted hundreds of years. That’s a long time. A change in the top is not unusual. Viet Nam had many changes in the top, too thru history.

The fall of Song dynasty had to do with the Mongols, not the Ming dynasty, it kicked out Mongols dominated Yuan dynasty in China.

 

[ety]

Haha.

 

[MH.Yang]

Breaking news, the Chinese government has already rejected the US's request for negotiations.

Trump seems to still not realize that the Chinese government's to decouple is irreversible. Once an industrial country like China has the industrial achievements generated by decoupling, it is impossible to stop the decoupling. Because these achievements will inevitably about the "beneficial interest groups due to decoupling".

Now that the trade volume with the US has dropped to 9% of China's total foreign trade, is still fantasizing about negotiations. Trump should sober up and spend time arranging for the supply chain to be replaced as soon as possible.

 

[ety]

Breaking news, the Chinese government has already rejected the US's request for negotiations.

Trump seems to still not realize that the Chinese government's to decouple is irreversible. Once an industrial country like China has the industrial achievements generated by decoupling, it is impossible to stop the decoupling. Because these achievements will inevitably about the "beneficial interest groups due to decoupling".

Now that the trade volume with the US has dropped to 9% of China's total foreign trade, is still fantasizing about negotiations. Trump should sober up and spend time arranging for the supply chain to be replaced as soon as possible.

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Why should China even discuss recent REM restrictions with the US simply because its industry will be hurt badly, just as why should China buy US soy beans now because US is desperate to sell after long term deals will Brazil had been signed ? Trump still has the illusion that he can order the Chinese gov like other countries to do whatever US wants, he just has to yell at China or Xi, lol, China has learned its lessons from his first term dealings, never cave in to the bully or he will demand much more. 9% export is still too much, should reduce to around 5% or less, then US is totally insignificant in Chinese trade, decoupling will be achieved then for the better and that's what US wants too.

 

[wangdefa]

China's first retaliation against US port charges has been launched, with the Ministry of Commerce announcing sanctions on five US-related subsidiaries of Hanwha Marine Co., Ltd., effective from October 14, 2025.

At a time when there are frictions between the United States and China in the maritime and shipbuilding sectors due to issues such as mutual collection of ship docking fees, five US subsidiaries of South Korean shipbuilding giant Hanwha-Ocean have been included in the sanctions list by the Chinese Ministry of Commerce, prohibiting domestic organizations and individuals from engaging in transactions and cooperation with these five companies.
On the 14th, the Chinese Ministry of Commerce stated that in order to counter the US's 301 investigation measures against China's maritime, logistics, and shipbuilding industries, the decision to take countermeasures against 5 US-related subsidiaries of Hanwha Marine Co., Ltd. was approved by the National Anti-Foreign Sanctions Coordination Mechanism. It will be implemented from October 14, 2025.
According to Yonhap, the five companies mentioned above include: Hanwha Shipping LLC, Hanwha Philly Shipyard Inc., Hanwha Ocean USA International LLC, Hanwha Shipping Holdings LLC, and HS USA Holdings Corp. The Chinese side prohibits organizations and individuals in China from engaging in transactions, cooperation, and other activities with these five enterprises.

 

[wangdefa]

As a result, the ship production of these five companies will also be included in the Chinese port fee.
I don't know if the shipowners who commissioned Korean production are worried.

 

[ety]

China should do to US owned, controlled or operated airplanes too. That will even things up.

 

[wangdefa]

China should do to US owned, controlled or operated airplanes too. That will even things up.

China has too many cards to play, we take it slowly, and we have to eat it one bite at a time.

 

[chinasun]

BHP adopts renminbi to settle China spot iron ore sales

BHP CEO Marius Kloppers rewired the iron ore trade by killing the annual benchmark and launching spot index pricing. That move shifted power toward the miners and anchored the market in the US dollar system.

This time, the wheel turns the other way. By accepting RMB settlement, BHP has given ground on both price and currency. The world’s largest miner just helped Beijing take a step toward an RMB-priced commodity syst

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This is how monetary power shifts, quietly and transaction by transaction.

There are no coincidences with timing. The news slipped out just before high-level US-Australia meetings in Washington.

Australia’s largest taxpayer and strategic export earner just validated China’s currency while Canberra was reaffirming AUKUS. Politically awkward, commercially decisive.

The White House will not miss the signal. Even its closest allies are now clearing trade in the rival bloc’s currency.

China already dominates refining and processing. What it lacked was control of settlement. RMB invoicing closes that loop.

Fortescue showed the other half of the system when it issued an RMB-denominated bond in China’s interbank market two months ago. Cheap funding, deep liquidity, and eager buyers. Western capital can't compete.

Together, BHP’s trade settlement and Fortescue’s bond show trade and finance beginning to align under China’s monetary architecture.

BHP’s long-term 2026 contracts are still in US dollars, for now. Once spot liquidity deepens, long-term settlements follow. Rio Tinto and others will face commercial pressure to match.

Global traders will need yuan hedging capacity. Banks in Singapore and Hong Kong will expand RMB clearing. Step by step, Australia’s export machine will wire itself into China’s financial system.

BHP’s move does not stand alone. Saudi Arabia is already accepting yuan for oil. Russia and Iran are settling energy in local currencies. BRICS countries are discussing a gold-linked trade settlement mechanism.

The world is dividing into two monetary blocs. One revolves around US capital markets, the other around Asian trade flows. Australia, through its miners, is drifting into the latter.

Each deal chips away at the network effects that give the dollar its reach. The dollar’s dominance erodes not through crisis, but through convenience.

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Economically, the logic is clear. China is the buyer, and it wants to pay in its own currency. Politically, it is combustible.

Australia earns half its export income from China but relies on the United States for defence. Every yuan-settled shipment tightens that contradiction.

The BHP-RMB deal is the most geopolitically charged trade settlement since the petrodollar

 

[冖_冖]

S. Korea Activates Trade Channel with China over Beijing's Hanwha Ocean Sanctions

The government is in communication with China to minimize the impact on Korea of Beijing’s recent sanctions on five U.S. subsidiaries of Hanwha Ocean.The presidential office ...

world.kbs.co.kr

S. Korea Activates Trade Channel with China over Beijing's Hanwha Ocean Sanctions​

Written: 2025-10-15 10:21:55/Updated: 2025-10-15 10:49:34

The government is in communication with China to minimize the impact on Korea of Beijing’s recent sanctions on five U.S. subsidiaries of Hanwha Ocean.

The presidential office said on Tuesday that the government has activated a South Korea-China trade channel to work on monitoring the situation and minimizing potential damage from the sanctions.

The top office said it will evaluate later whether the sanctions will impact the MASGA project, South Korea’s initiative to support the revival of the U.S. shipbuilding industry.

It added that the immediate effect is expected to be limited, given the relatively few transactions between the targeted companies and Chinese entities.

Earlier, China prohibited its companies and individuals from conducting business with, cooperating with or engaging in any activities involving Hanwha Ocean’s five U.S. subsidiaries.

 

[MH.Yang]

S. Korea Activates Trade Channel with China over Beijing's Hanwha Ocean Sanctions

The government is in communication with China to minimize the impact on Korea of Beijing’s recent sanctions on five U.S. subsidiaries of Hanwha Ocean.The presidential office ...

world.kbs.co.kr

S. Korea Activates Trade Channel with China over Beijing's Hanwha Ocean Sanctions​

Written: 2025-10-15 10:21:55/Updated: 2025-10-15 10:49:34

The government is in communication with China to minimize the impact on Korea of Beijing’s recent sanctions on five U.S. subsidiaries of Hanwha Ocean.

The presidential office said on Tuesday that the government has activated a South Korea-China trade channel to work on monitoring the situation and minimizing potential damage from the sanctions.

The top office said it will evaluate later whether the sanctions will impact the MASGA project, South Korea’s initiative to support the revival of the U.S. shipbuilding industry.

It added that the immediate effect is expected to be limited, given the relatively few transactions between the targeted companies and Chinese entities.

Earlier, China prohibited its companies and individuals from conducting business with, cooperating with or engaging in any activities involving Hanwha Ocean’s five U.S. subsidiaries.

South Korea and Japan, or all non-Chinese shipyards, have U.S. capital investment, so they are all on the sanctions list. Now.S. ports are demanding that Chinese-built ships pay taxes, and Chinese ports are demanding that non-Chinese-built ships pay taxes. There are no surviving ships in this. But 8 of the world's top 10 ports are in China, and 40% of port throughput is in China. Compared to China's port, the United States is just a kid.

 

[ety]

On October 13, U.S. Treasury Secretary Bennett made a rare harsh statement in a television interview: If China continues to restrict rare earth exports, the United States may take countermeasures, including expelling hundreds of thousands of Chinese students from American campuses.

--This is the only card US has left, expelling Chinese students, haha, maybe good for China.

 

[Viet]

The fall of Song dynasty had to do with the Mongols, not the Ming dynasty, it kicked out Mongols dominated Yuan dynasty in China.

You are right I mixed up with the Manchu, the other barbaric folks.

 

[wangdefa]

On October 13, U.S. Treasury Secretary Bennett made a rare harsh statement in a television interview: If China continues to restrict rare earth exports, the United States may take countermeasures, including expelling hundreds of thousands of Chinese students from American campuses.

--This is the only card US has left, expelling Chinese students, haha, maybe good for China.

Expulsion of international students? I don't understand. The next step was to expel the embassy and the two countries announced the severance of diplomatic relations?