Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

Turkey, KSA, Egypt, UAE, Qatar... they're all working for the Zionist Jews, many of them (including) are kryptologists, others are spies, and still others are puppets. Erdogan has always worked for the Zionist Jewish elite, but now he's completely exposed himself along with the Arab "puppets."

NOTE: The question is, how far they go with their lies, as long as the Palestinian extermination and colonization continue. The attack on Qatar was coordinated with Qatar itself to conceal Netanyahu's connection to the "Qatargate" scandal and thus fuel the "scissors strategy" in the minds of manipulated individuals. Soon after, Qatar signed a plan that legalized the extermination of the Palestinian people and the colonization of the Gaza Strip, disarming Palestinians without creating a Palestinian state.
 
Gaza Civil Defense:

We have recovered more than 250 bodies since the ceasefire.

There are still thousands.


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حَسْبُنَا اللّٰہُ وَنِعْمَ الْوَکِیْلُ

يا رب تعوض اهل غزة عن كل شيء شافوه

This is heartbreaking and the sad truth is they may never recover so many lost in the rubble :(
 
You tell me again what Arabs have to do with Zionists slaughtering defenseless people hiding behind the world's foremost superpower (USA) that no Muslim nation can challenge militarily nor economically, not even the combined forces?

What is your obsession about insulting Arabs? Why are you attacking people like an idiot? Why are you not even grasping the meaning of relatively simple points and posts? Or is all this deliberate trolling? Go bother someone else with your nonsense, not interested.
Learn from the bravery of the Palestinians and strong belief in Allah. The mightiest army just got humbled in front of your eyes , the Palestinians were attacked by 50 US states, one Jewish state, the UK and the EU and still they did not surrender, yet you surrendered in your mind. You speak like an Indian.
 
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When they were getting abused and slaughtered by the white minority I don't think they cared for ICC , ICJ or the UN but only asked for guns which they got from China, Soviets, Pakistan etc. One of the first countries Mandela visited was Pakistan.
 
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And I see your point, and I really hope that I was wrong, but objectively, this changes nothing in the whole dynamic, unless there is a war on, Israel would have to call an election, and once that happens, Netanyahu would be gone, and he isn't just going to be back into civilian life, he is going directly to jail.

On the other hand, this ceasefire would be hinged a lot with Trump support, or, straightly speaking, supervision, and again, would Trump be a factor in this and keep Netanyahu in line? Trump is very businessman-like; if he did something for someone, there has to be something for him. It really does not take a genius to figure out that he did what he did in this deal because of the Nobel Prize. And that is now gone. I just don't think there is anything in it for him now.

As much as I want to think this is going to be the end of this tragedy, these two factors I just simply can't ignore.....
You honestly believe after sending $100 billions of weapons, blank checks and green light to genocide of an imprisoned and impoverished people that Trump would just call a halt to the holocaust because he wants a Nobel peace prize? I am laughing so much I am about to fall off the chair.
 
How the Gaza War Changed Arab Elites’ Perception of China

The Gaza War has shattered Arab illusions about China as a normative power and recast it as a transactional actor.

By Behrouz Ayaz
October 13, 2025

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The Gaza conflict has been one of the most horrific crises to test human rights commitments and adherence to ethics. It has become a defining moment in reshaping Arab political elites’ perceptions of global powers. Although the United States’ influence in this war is decisive, Arab elites’ focus was not limited to Washington and the West. China also became a central subject in Arab intellectual and strategic debates.

China had previously sought to project itself as a neutral and constructive force through initiatives such as the Global Security Initiative and its mediation between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Yet Beijing adopted a notably cautious approach toward the Gaza crisis. From the Arab perspective, China is viewed as an attractive economic and anti-Western partner, yet its relative silence regarding Israel’s actions has cast doubt on the sincerity of its morally oriented discourse.

This raises a key question: Do Arab elites still see China as a benevolent neutral power, or as a pragmatic, self-interested and balancing power lacking moral commitment?

Before the Gaza War, China’s image in the region was that of a non-interventionist power – the mediator of the March 2023 Iran–Saudi rapprochement, the signatory of hundreds of billions of dollars in contracts with the Persian Gulf states, and the strategic partner behind the Belt and Road Initiative. This approach gave Arab nations the impression that, unlike the United States, China prioritized stability and development over ideology and political coercion. Yet the Gaza War challenged this perception.

In the early weeks of the conflict, Beijing maintained an ambiguous stance: condemning violence in general, calling for a ceasefire, and mildly criticizing Israel. For many Arab political elites, this position appeared overly cautious. They had expected China to take a moral and explicit stand in support of the Palestinians. Although Chinese media gradually shifted from neutral wording to accusing Israel of gross violations of international law, Beijing refrained from taking concrete steps to pressure Israel to end the war. This created a dual image of China among Arab leaders: Beijing is still seen as an economic alternative to the West, yet is increasingly viewed as politically hesitant and lacking geopolitical assertiveness.

However, Arab elites’ attitudes were far from uniform. Their reactions ranged from admiration to skepticism and even outright criticism. It is obvious that political elites have refrained from overtly criticizing China due to diplomatic considerations and national interests, but the position of these countries can be understood from the statements of their intellectual and media elites. Let’s look at four important Arab countries: Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt.

Qatar has arguably been the most critical of China’s approach to the Gaza War. Given Qatar’s close alignment with the Palestinian cause, Al Jazeera and Qatari think tanks criticized China’s passivity amid the massacres in Gaza. While officials diplomatically described Beijing’s role as constructive, Qatari media viewed Beijing’s stance as largely symbolic. Al Jazeera argued that China’s position was “more rhetorical than practical.”

An Arabic article titled “China and the Palestinian Issue: Verbal Support without Pressure on Israel” published on Al-Araby, explicitly stated that China’s stance toward the Palestinians is one of verbal support only. The article noted that Beijing is not putting pressure on Israel. However, even in these criticisms, there is a kind of realistic acceptance: Qatari elites acknowledge that China is becoming part of the inevitable power equation in the region.

In contrast, the United Arab Emirates (UAE) adopted a distinctly pragmatic stance. For Abu Dhabi, China should not be judged or measured by Western standards. Rather, Beijing symbolizes a “futuristic power” – one that promotes stability, trade, and technocratic governance. Emirati officials view China’s neutrality in Gaza not as weakness but as a deliberate policy of “profitable impartiality.”

“China remains a key player in the global economy and its economic trajectory is very important for Abu Dhabi,” Massimo Falcioni, chief competitiveness officer at the Abu Dhabi Investment Office (ADIO), said in a recent interview with China Daily.

This view has led Emirati analysts to consider China as a potential mediator in resolving critical regional issues. Mohammed bin Al Nahyan, Emir of the United Arab Emirates, stressed at the opening session of the 10th Ministerial Meeting of the China-Arab States Cooperation Forum that the UAE believes that peace in Gaza is possible through cooperation between Arab countries and China, along with international efforts.

In Saudi Arabia, political leaders considered Beijing’s cautious position a calculated move, aware that any explicit stance could jeopardize joint investments. Yet Saudi intellectuals and media figures – particularly after Washington’s overt support for Tel Aviv – called on China to take a clearer position to establish genuine strategic balance. Independent Arabia argued that “Beijing exploits the Gaza crisis to advance its strategic interests while maintaining rhetorical solidarity with Palestinians.”

In Egypt, reactions were complex. Veteran journalists and analysts with a pan-Arab background described China’s restraint as consistent with its “soft diplomacy.” The Al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies (ACPSS) noted that China supports Palestinian refugees and calls for ending the war but cannot fully meet Arab expectations due to its own strategic limitations.

Meanwhile, younger Egyptian scholars in international relations argued that China is quietly building a “gradual soft influence” through economics, culture, and technology – an influence less immediate but more enduring than U.S. military intervention. These scholars also believe Beijing, with Egyptian and Iranian backing, aims to erode U.S. dominance in the Middle East.

Two competing discourses have thus emerged among Arab elites regarding China’s role. One portrays China as a cautious yet indispensable partner; the other sees it as a morally insufficient but balancing power.

Ultimately, the Gaza War pushed Arab elites from idealism toward realism in their perception of China. For them, Beijing is not a savior but a balancing instrument – a way to manage dependency without severing ties with the United States.

Apart from the critical view of some Arab media, the Gaza crisis caused Arabs to look at China as an alternative power. Although its position is ambiguous, the fact that China was raised alongside the U.S. in the discourse of Arab elites indicates the breaking of the U.S. monopoly on shaping regional narratives.

At the same time, the Gaza War demonstrates that China still avoids assuming political and security responsibilities in the region – a necessary step if it wishes to become a credible geopolitical actor. Beijing’s passive position provides an opportunity for the United States to play a major role and keep the Arab countries on its side.

For its part, China seeks presence without deep engagement and influence without responsibility. This strategy, while cost-effective, risks undermining its international prestige as a global leader. Unless China redefines its normative diplomacy, it will remain an economic giant but a geopolitical dwarf in the Arab imagination.

To be fair the West and specially the USA would just love to drag China into an armed quagmire in the likes of US vs Vietnam and USSR vs Afghanistan to completely drain it financially, technically and morally. I am to very disappointed with their lackluster commitments to international conflicts but on cooler mind I do understand their position. A Chinese entry into the conflict would have most probably ended up in ww3, an indirect entry would have resulted in activation of sleeper cells and infiltration of terrorists into Chinese mainland by the west and a certain neighboring country over flowing with rabid dogs would have been overjoyed by these developments and would let the the west prostitute their own land for this short term gain.
 
CNN anchor Becky Anderson spoke with Egyptian Foreign Minister Badr Abdel Aati in Sharm el-Sheikh, where world leaders will meet later today for a summit on the future of Gaza.

"We need American forces on the ground," Abdel-Ati said, adding, "In this process, we are talking, and of course we have to define the nature of these forces, as you know. Is it to impose peace or to maintain peace? It must be for peacekeeping, of course," he stressed, stressing that "any American participation in this transitional force is important and welcome."

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Palestinians need the Americans as much as Jews need the Gas chambers
 
Maariv
Quoting an Israeli official

- Israel does not wish for Turkey to participate in the peacekeeping force in the discussions related to the "stabilization force" in Gaza.
- Turkey cannot be part of the structure that will disarm Hamas.The Turkish presence would undermine the entire process.
- Israel does not oppose the participation of "moderate" Gulf states such as the UAE, Qatar, and Bahrain in the peacekeeping force.
- There is opposition to the Turkish presence.- Turkey openly supports Hamas, and there are close ideological ties between President Erdoğan and the Muslim Brotherhood.

@Mehmetcanbekli1
Fvck israel, Turkiye should participate along with Iran, Iraq and Yemen and they all should get the leading roles.
 

Erdogan Condemns Israel Over Gaza Ceasefire Bloodshed After 5 Palestinians Killed by IDF​

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has issued a blistering condemnation of Israel following renewed violence in Gaza, where reports indicate that five Palestinians were killed by Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) during a fragile ceasefire. Erdogan accused Israel of escalating bloodshed and violating international law, warning that Turkey may take “strong measures” in response to continued attacks.#ErdoganBlastsIsrael #GazaCeasefire #TurkeyVsIsrael #IDFKills #GazaConflict #MiddleEastTensions #ErdoganStatement #IsraelGaza #BloodshedInGaza #RegionalCrisis #TurkeyDiplomacy #IsraelAttack #GazaNews #HumanitarianCrisis #PoliticalTensions #TrumpPeacePlan #GazaViolence #InternationalAlert #ErdoganWarning #ConflictUpdate
 
You honestly believe after sending $100 billions of weapons, blank checks and green light to genocide of an imprisoned and impoverished people that Trump would just call a halt to the holocaust because he wants a Nobel peace prize? I am laughing so much I am about to fall off the chair.
You are asking the wrong question. What I think about why he is doing this is not important, he can be doing it because of the prize, or something else. I am just using an answer to refer to his action. I don't know why he did what he did; I am not him.

But the questions you should ask are

1.) What changes after this deal
2.) What did Trump get in return?

On the other hand, you can try to have a wild guess on what Trump's intention is. He doesn't believe Palestinians should have a state (his word, not mine), he believes Gaza should be razed and build a top-notch seaside resort and run by the American (again, his word, not mine), and as you said, he sends billions and billions of dollars of weapons to Israel, and now what? He suddenly had an enlightenment and tried to do the "right" thing, which wasn't going to solve anything?

Knowing Trump, you don't get him to do something unless there are something in it for him, tell me, what do you think is in it for him to do this?
 
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Israel breaking ceasefire, continues executions of unarmed civilians.

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Israel identified the bodies of the 4 soldiers that Hamas handed over yesterday and, in exchange, released 45 remains of Palestinian martyrs who were killed during the war.

Unfortunately, Gaza does not possess DNA testing technology, and thus the bodies remain unidentified.


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