Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Solomon2]

I sleep at night rather good knowing that I’m not committing a genocide and expelling a people from their homes to make my own state atop their blood and homes.

Yet by championing the elimination of the Jewish State you are seeking exactly that.

 

[VCheng]

Israelis and Gazans should be free to decide whether to fight or not, rather than have the decision imposed from without.

Of course, if Israelis decide not to fight, that would be suicide. Whereas if Gazans gave up the fight, they may fear they would quickly lose many of the external subsidies that generations have depended upon.

Just as the Palestinians have the right, it is up to the Israelis to decide for themselves how they wish to proceed, and to be responsible for the consequences, good and bad, of their decisions.

 

[hussain0216]

The response should be made felt, of course. And how is that working out exactly?

Just because the cost of freedom is high, shouldn't mean you give up on freedom

When the path to peaceful resolution is blocked, violent resistance becomes inevitable

We the people of the world need to hold the Jews and U.S/west accountable for their hypocrisy and crimes

 

[Solomon2]

The Jews were minorities who paid the price for Zionist machinations

The same machinations have resulted in over a hundred expulsions, pogroms and a holocaust of the Jews (you would think you would learn)

In Palestine the Palestinian population was a overwhelming majority, any free vote would have resulted in a total rejection of a colonial Jew state in the middle east..

Which is why the UN wanted the two-state solution, dividing the Palestine Mandate a second time into Jewish-majority and Arab-majority areas. Which the Arabs rejected, both within the Palestine Mandate and without.

Hundreds of millions in the region cannot be put at risk because of these cancerous Jews and it would now be better that you leave and go back to Europe for everyones sake

So the Jews should do things to solve your insecurities, not theirs.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Yet by championing the elimination of the Jewish State you are seeking exactly that.

Only one side is eliminating the other side by oppressing, building illegal settlements, restrict their freedom and movements, killing with impunity, settler violence, control of borders, destroying their economy, etc

A people who are resisting have every right to resist their occupiers and oppressors. Palestinians are not ethnically cleansing Jews, it’s the other way around.

 

[Solomon2]

Just as the Palestinians have the right -

Under Hamas the Gazans don't have the right to decide for themselves. Or do they? Should the Gazans be held to the same moral standards of responsibility Israel is held to? And if so, what should be their punishment for violations? Because when you cite "consequences" you're talking collective punishment, yes?

 

[Solomon2]

Only one side is eliminating the other side by oppressing -

Both Gazans and Israelis are oppressed by Hamas' terror. Living under rocket bombardment is not conducive to a normal economy.

Really, the truth has been clear for decades: if the Arab terrorists gave up fighting, then there would be no war between Arabs and Israelis. Whereas if the Israelis gave up fighting, there would be no Israel. The fact that Hamas et al eagerly seek another genocide of the Jews isn't even open to question.

So you sleep well at night - knowing that you're working towards such evil ends.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Under Hamas the Gazans don't have the right to decide for themselves. Or do they? Should the Gazans be held to the same moral standards of responsibility Israel is held to? And if so, what should be their punishment for violations? Because when you cite "consequences" you're talking collective punishment, yes?

Israel and morality are complete opposite things. Don’t equate the two together. There is nothing moral about the continued oppression and occupation Palestinians have been put through by Israel for over 75 years.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Both Gazans and Israelis are oppressed by Hamas' terror. Living under rocket bombardment is not conducive to a normal economy.

Really, the truth has been clear for decades: if the Arab terrorists gave up fighting, then there would be no war between Arabs and Israelis. Whereas if the Israelis gave up fighting, there would be no Israel. The fact that Hamas et al eagerly seek another genocide of the Jews isn't even open to question.

So you sleep well at night - knowing that you're working towards such evil ends.

So Hamas killed those 13,000 children in Gaza? They also are the ones occupying, oppressing, demolishing homes, building illegal settlements, killing Palestinians with impunity , restrict their movement, building checkpoints , etc?

Yeah ok

 

[Solomon2]

Israel and morality are complete opposite things. Don’t equate the two together. There is nothing moral about the continued oppression and occupation Palestinians have been put through by Israel for over 75 years.

Gaza was autonomous from 2005 to 2023. The U.N. chose to pretend it was under occupation by naming it "Occupied".

 

[UKBengali]

Both Gazans and Israelis are oppressed by Hamas' terror. Living under rocket bombardment is not conducive to a normal economy.

Really, the truth has been clear for decades: if the Arab terrorists gave up fighting, then there would be no war between Arabs and Israelis. Whereas if the Israelis gave up fighting, there would be no Israel. The fact that Hamas et al eagerly seek another genocide of the Jews isn't even open to question.

So you sleep well at night - knowing that you're working towards such evil ends.

Clear as in PLO gave up arms and this has been met with more land thefts, murder and hostage taking?

Over 200 Palestinians were killed in 2023 before October 7th and all in the West Bank by your fellow Zionists.

Please at least learn about what your Zionist buddies have been doing in the West Bank since Oslo Accord.

 

[Solomon2]

So Hamas killed those 13,000 children in Gaza?

That goes back to the article I posted earlier today: whereas Hamas invaded Israel with the goal of murdering Jewish babies, in Gaza the children are dying - despite the care Israel uses in its operation - because Hamas uses civilians as a cover for themselves, hence Hamas bears legal and moral responsibility for their deaths.

It works for Hamas because people like you buy their story. If you didn't, then maybe Hamas wouldn't be encouraged to use civilians as cover.

 

[UKBengali]

Gaza was autonomous from 2005 to 2023. The U.N. chose to pretend it was under occupation by naming it "Occupied".

Stop it as you are embarrassing yourself now.

You are under occupation if you do not control your shores, borders or your airspace. Gaza was still occupied after 2005.

 

[Solomon2]

Israel and morality are complete opposite things. Don’t equate the two together. There is nothing moral about the continued oppression and occupation Palestinians have been put through by Israel for over 75 years.

You're skirting my questions by inverting the truth. Again, should the Gazans be punished? And if so, how?

 

[Unknowntruth]

Gaza was autonomous from 2005 to 2023. The U.N. chose to pretend it was under occupation by naming it "Occupied".

That goes back to the article I posted earlier today: whereas Hamas invaded Israel with the goal of murdering Jewish babies, in Gaza the children are dying - despite the care Israel uses in its operation - because Hamas uses civilians as a cover for themselves, hence Hamas bears legal and moral responsibility for their deaths.

It works for Hamas because people like you buy their story. If you didn't, then maybe Hamas wouldn't be encouraged to use civilians as cover.

So we going to ignore the siege on Gaza and control of anything that comes in and out including border control?

We are going to ignore the continued illegal settlements, settler violence, oppression, etc that are going on in the West Bank too?

Human shields? So Hamas made you bomb all those hospitals, schools, UN Shelters, residential complexes , etc. They told you to restrict aid and medicine to Gazans.

They also told you to tell civilians to flee south using a “safe” corridor and then bomb them as they fled?