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These thankless people feel so entitled, bite the hands that feeds them, openly support Pakistan's enemies like India and talibans, and at the same time they want to live in Pakistan and don't like the idea of going back to Afg

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I can tell you something you may not know. My grandfather and grand uncles all formed the AKRF with other great men of AJK.
When the push happened into occupied Kashmir they came across their community 'leaders'. Of course the large Pashtun army was with them as well. When they asked the leaders to help i.e. prepare food, show them where the airfield was in order to stop the IA landing, their leaders said they wouldn't and didn't want to hand their land to Pahari people and Pashtuns. Of the AKRF who could speak Kashmiri told the rest of the AKRF troops and Pashtun Lashker that they were 'scared' of the state Dogra forces, and Indian army and couldn't help. When they were pushed back by heavy artillery by the arrival of the IA, and the LOC stabilised, they revealed the truth about their treason.
Thereafter they destined their descendants to slavery at the hands of India.
Qudratullah Shahab alluded to some of it but in this optimistic prose.
 
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This is being posted under a totally different context - would be interesting to know the actual story here.
 
Bless your grandfather and uncles who tried to help those ungrateful people. As you said, the actions of those Kashmiris destined them to hell on earth.

Jazakllah bro make dua for them. Yes they were a wretched lot, although they didn't represent all, but these were the leaders. Their offspring and their offspring now have the burden of their treason sadly.
 
I posted that post to instigate you wesay in a friendly way :-) not disrespectfully
I knew you will reply me :-)

I had read your previous posts and yeah you are correct.

Haha. Yes I just had to pitch in here.
Although it has to be said their decedents do love Pakistan now. But hey, let's hope inshallah.
 
Qudratullah Shahab alluded to some of it but in this optimistic prose.

Yes indeed. Sadly there was more to it and as I stated much of it was hidden from the Pakistani people, otherwise the PR fallout would have been terrible.
You'd be surprised at the majority of people still don't know. The most read leave it at Sheikh Abduallah, who was then thrown into prison for his 'service'.
 
If Kashmiris loved India as much as you claim, then the Indians would've already held a referendum and ended the dispute as with as they did in Junagarh.
The most coward muslims on this earth are Kashmiris, proven time and again since the last century.

Would you dare say this about Palestinian Muslims? If not, how can you say this about your own people? I'm not even referring to IOK, but the equally or even larger Kashmiri population within Pakistan proper?

There are some traitors in every Muslim ethnic group including yours, doesn't mean you takfir millions of people like a 14 year old who just discovered Khawarij takfiri telegram channel.

If Kashmiris had any spine, or the will to fight, the insurgency in IOK would have been in full swing.
And with what weapons will they fight this insurgency?

With what safe heavens?

With what infiltration routes?

When Bajwa wanted to bury the past and move on, when Musharraf wanted to accept the LoC as IB, Ayub refused to join the Chinese in 1962 war against India, Liaqat Ali Khan refused to exchange Kashmir for Hyderabad, were they all posessed by Kashmiri jinns?
Pakistan wouldn't have needed to divert fighters from other countries and backgrounds towards IOK.
AT ITS PEAK, no more than 1/3 of fighters were foreign born.

So stop peddling this pa,jeet BS that all Kashmiri dissidents are foreign agents
It was these spineless and coward Kashmiris who in August 1965 gave up positions of PA to Indians, during Ops Gibraltar.
Yes, they are traitors in Kashmir, just like there are traitors in Pakistan who gave up Ababeel missile secrets or kidnapped Pakistani families to be tortured and raped in CIA Black sites in exchange for a green card and pat on the back.

By your logic Pakistanis are all cowards and the whole Muslim ummah should all join the Taliban.

In 1999 again, Pakistani troops made gains guised as Kashmiri mujahideen, since the coward kashmiris wouldn't muster up anything worthwhile and instead of an uprising inside IOK, the kashmiris took to hiding.
Kargil isn't even Kashmiri....

Kargil Shias are more pro-India than even Buddhist Ladakhis, expecting a revolution here is stupid enough but I don't have words to describe the idiocy of blaming Kashmiris for the actions of Baltis in Kargil.

By the way in the 90s the average Kashmiri kid would dream of crossing the border, training in Pakistan, and returning to slaugther Indian forces. Kashmiris would face the worst atrocities, some which even Israel hasn't done in Gaza like Kunan Poshpora mass rapes. Yet Kashmiris would fight, and bury their martyrs under Pakistani flags they secretly made at home.

But after 9/11 the Pakistani establishment did a complete U-turn, decided to go woke, accept LoC as IB and declare Kashmiri militancy as haram. In fact you have hypocrites like Imran Khan slobbering on the boots of Afghani TTP while advising the youth to not cross the LoC for jihad in Kashmir.


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The relationship between IoK and Pakistan is not perfect but let's not pretend betrayals are one-sided.

If Kashmiris loved India as much as you claim, then the Indians would've already held a referendum and ended the dispute as with as they did in Junagarh.
 
You haven't seen anything yet. When Pakistan really begins taking out Indian funded Taliban, you will for sure know and fully understand.
And then you will set up another government in Afghanistan. Which will soon turn pro India and anti Pakistan. The final objective is to have a friendly government in Afghanistan.

The taliban does not need funds to fight from India. It has more than enough sympathisers in Pakistan to raise funds. There are some one this site too.
 
Mujahideen who later became Taliban were made by three countries. USA armed them with weapons, Pakistan trained them and KSA funded them with $$$. Later on when USA abandoned the region and KSA withdrew the funding, Pakistan was left to deal with the mess, but now the lethal animal couldn't be controlled. Pakistan directed them towards IOK with little success.

If Kashmiris had any spine, or the will to fight, the insurgency in IOK would have been in full swing. Pakistan wouldn't have needed to divert fighters from other countries and backgrounds towards IOK. It was these spineless and coward Kashmiris who in August 1965 gave up positions of PA to Indians, during Ops Gibraltar. In 1999 again, Pakistani troops made gains guised as Kashmiri mujahideen, since the coward kashmiris wouldn't muster up anything worthwhile and instead of an uprising inside IOK, the kashmiris took to hiding.

The most coward muslims on this earth are Kashmiris, proven time and again since the last century.
Kashmir cannot be liberated without liberating the Sikhs simultaneously.
 
If Kashmiris loved India as much as you claim, then the Indians would've already held a referendum and ended the dispute as with as they did in Junagarh.


Would you dare say this about Palestinian Muslims? If not, how can you say this about your own people? I'm not even referring to IOK, but the equally or even larger Kashmiri population within Pakistan proper?

There are some traitors in every Muslim ethnic group including yours, doesn't mean you takfir millions of people like a 14 year old who just discovered Khawarij takfiri telegram channel.


And with what weapons will they fight this insurgency?

With what safe heavens?

With what infiltration routes?

When Bajwa wanted to bury the past and move on, when Musharraf wanted to accept the LoC as IB, Ayub refused to join the Chinese in 1962 war against India, Liaqat Ali Khan refused to exchange Kashmir for Hyderabad, were they all posessed by Kashmiri jinns?

AT ITS PEAK, no more than 1/3 of fighters were foreign born.

So stop peddling this pa,jeet BS that all Kashmiri dissidents are foreign agents

Yes, they are traitors in Kashmir, just like there are traitors in Pakistan who gave up Ababeel missile secrets or kidnapped Pakistani families to be tortured and raped in CIA Black sites in exchange for a green card and pat on the back.

By your logic Pakistanis are all cowards and the whole Muslim ummah should all join the Taliban.


Kargil isn't even Kashmiri....

Kargil Shias are more pro-India than even Buddhist Ladakhis, expecting a revolution here is stupid enough but I don't have words to describe the idiocy of blaming Kashmiris for the actions of Baltis in Kargil.

By the way in the 90s the average Kashmiri kid would dream of crossing the border, training in Pakistan, and returning to slaugther Indian forces. Kashmiris would face the worst atrocities, some which even Israel hasn't done in Gaza like Kunan Poshpora mass rapes. Yet Kashmiris would fight, and bury their martyrs under Pakistani flags they secretly made at home.

But after 9/11 the Pakistani establishment did a complete U-turn, decided to go woke, accept LoC as IB and declare Kashmiri militancy as haram. In fact you have hypocrites like Imran Khan slobbering on the boots of Afghani TTP while advising the youth to not cross the LoC for jihad in Kashmir.


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The relationship between IoK and Pakistan is not perfect but let's not pretend betrayals are one-sided.

If Kashmiris loved India as much as you claim, then the Indians would've already held a referendum and ended the dispute as with as they did in Junagarh.
Need to start action with Sikhs and Ladakh.
 
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