Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[RocketLaw]

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I believe Pakistan Army already know their exercises every few months and will study their game plans even satellites - thank you so much!

 

[Oscar]

let me ask you a painful question?

why are strong points are all in north and center, why never in south (Except Karachi since its a port) that is why they mention always in south "Karachi" otherwise they would have mentioned in military terms Hyderabad/Panu Aqil which they do not consider strong points

every inch of Pakistani Land is sacred it should have been heavily guarded north/south/east/west

but we can very easily deflect this painful/righteous question by saying we do not have resources. then building every important military installation HIT/POF/PAC just 3-4 min flying time away from the active disputed area (kashmir) sounds like what?

those responsible for it if alive should be called in line and shot! for this decision!

well what's done is done! you cannot change past. one can suffer the consequences!

My point is its the mentality - we are showboaters! we do not have stomach as people and leaders for total war.

so the drama continues.

with this post i take my leave tonight!

While some valid aspects you miss many things in the pointing out of Karachi vs Hyderabad and so on.
V corps is the point of interest -

• 16th Infantry Division (Pano Aqil)
• 18th Infantry Division (Hyderabad)
• 25th Mechanized Division (Malir)
• 31st Mechanized Brigade (Hyderabad)
• 2nd Armored Brigade (Malir)
• Independent Artillery Brigade (Karachi)
• Independent Signal Brigade
• Independent Engineering Brigade

Do you know what the total strengh of this corps is?
Then you have ignored XXXI - which on and off has mixed AOR because the axis is known to be the place where India will focus its attack.

Now the issue arises not just that India in itself has massive forces here but that they have at least at a microcosm and multiple tabletop levels gamed out full thrusts through this region under their IBG concepts in conjunction with IN support and potential flanking landings across the coast.

There is plenty of wargaming done on that - with our team here a while back.
But that is where the PN's A2/AD or rather Southern Commands A2/AD comes in.
Regardless, these plans are all of mice and men and at the end for either side a few wrenches on india or just 1-2 for Pakistan will have this all fall apart.

There is an entire aspect of infra that has sprung alone M-9 and N-5 that those that know know(and also know of the haramipan that came from it) which is focused on blunting any ideas.

As far as alleged resources or otherwise - it might just be an illusion but something has Modi (and oddly more now Adani) planning something for the area. Perhaps their Maskirovka for Pakistan's Maskirovka or rather Maskharapan.

Lastly, see why Crypto is being pushed along suddenly - look to US Debt and why crashing the dollar while holding crypto helps those in USD Dept including the US.

Frogs in our respective wells, all of us.

 

[Oscar]

As for gumption of war - well for that you can see Pakistani history, the type of leaders you bring in and then finally their caliber. All of them have lots to loose and both Pakistan's continuity and welfare of Pakistanis comes after their last 2 post constipation dumps(with high pressure istanja) in the priority of things in their mind.

 

[arjunk]

As far as alleged resources or otherwise - it might just be an illusion but something has Modi (and oddly more now Adani) planning something for the area. Perhaps their Maskirovka for Pakistan's Maskirovka or rather Maskharapan.

The Gujrat economic sites are particularly vulnerable, the Indians are building a whole new IAF base just to protect them and free up resources for offensive ops against south Pakistan.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Keep in mind - Trump has time and time and time and time and time and time again mentioned the use of trade to negotiate a ceasefire/cessity of wars, especially between Pakistan and India.

Trumps necessity/constant refresher on claiming to halt tensions between Pakistan and India means that this is important to him as a platform to portray not only to his domestic audience, but also internationally

It's a false sense of comfort.
India is not really scared of the USA nor does it take the words of President Trump seriously. India's role model is Israel and Russia who pursue their wars relentlessly.

• Israel isn't bothered about sanctions or trade tariffs , because it has enough political leverage in the USA to ensure that regardless of what the White House or State Department says, Israel will continue to fight wars in its own interest.
• Russia is likewise unaffected by any announcements or threats not only from the USA but more importantly from NATO. Russia is self-sufficient in food, energy,,critical minerals, and has a defense industry that is modest but still adequate for its needs.

India's position as it interacts with the USA is somewhere between Israel and Russia as it pursues the "1500 year war " against Islam, Muslims, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Turkey.
India's lobbying power in the USA though currently diminished and no where comparable to Israel is still considerable. India's size, economy (GDP), military numerical strength and nuclear weapons status gives it some immunity from direct US action.
In a twisted sense India is partially correct saying, the USA did not arrange the ceasefire between Pakistan & India. The ceasefire came about because of Pakistan's threat of escalation and India's unwillingness to take casualties in a protracted war.

 

[jehangir]

Recently I have noticed that India is adopting drones massively. Some recent examples are

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[PK781]

let them bring/send drones......our entire nation is always ready and willing to bring them down and sell them for scraps! and we do it during active war! lolz.

 

[Oscar]

let them bring/send drones......our entire nation is always ready and willing to bring them down and sell them for scraps! and we do it during active war! lolz.

You have Netflix?
Go watch "House of Dynamite" - just released.
When watching it - consider the decisions being made, the fog in decision, the failures of plans - and then consider 20 minutes vs 6-8 minutes for Pakistan.

 

[Psyko70]

I need to learn english to understand some posts with heavy vocabulary and phrases. Because its not for us all to read and its ok I understand.

Anyway,

Suddenly indian exercises are happening and here in forum, members specially seniors are complaining of the pakistan lack of dealing with such high level attacks. Whats going on with you guys ? Didnt we gave them beating in may and 2019 ?

If our leadership as a whole is poor which is extreme thinking to believe then with this mindset anything can happen against us. Have a faith, its what makes us stronger.

Ranting is like feed into our core. No matter what, we have issues with system. Yet we are only nation who has one of biggest bullies and had 2 big bullies on left and left because what they did didnt break us.

 

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Chess board being set… really wish we had the new J35 inducted but you go to war with the inventory you have…

Logistics and civil standup would be a good employment with drone pilots accelerator programs

Our national gear up for war would be a powerful deterrent signal as well

 

[Pagal khaana]

Chess board being set… really wish we had the new J35 inducted but you go to war with the inventory you have…

Logistics and civil standup would be a good employment with drone pilots accelerator programs

Our national gear up for war would be a powerful deterrent signal as well

And it is a secret, what we have

 

[TallGuy]

But Egypt attacked because it had a legitimate territorial dispute with Israel as it was occupying the Sinai Peninsular, that's not the case here. It could be argued they may try a false flag operation, but it would have to be a very good false flag, good enough to convince international scrutiny.

please verify Sir Creek issue between India & Pakistan (its a legitimate territorial dispute)