Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[R2D2]

Need to start action with Sikhs and Ladakh.

Infiltration can also be done via China's border with Indian Occupied Kashmir.

 

[Silent_fighter]

If Kashmiris loved India as much as you claim, then the Indians would've already held a referendum and ended the dispute as with as they did in Junagarh.


Would you dare say this about Palestinian Muslims? If not, how can you say this about your own people? I'm not even referring to IOK, but the equally or even larger Kashmiri population within Pakistan proper?

There are some traitors in every Muslim ethnic group including yours, doesn't mean you takfir millions of people like a 14 year old who just discovered Khawarij takfiri telegram channel.


And with what weapons will they fight this insurgency?

With what safe heavens?

With what infiltration routes?

When Bajwa wanted to bury the past and move on, when Musharraf wanted to accept the LoC as IB, Ayub refused to join the Chinese in 1962 war against India, Liaqat Ali Khan refused to exchange Kashmir for Hyderabad, were they all posessed by Kashmiri jinns?

AT ITS PEAK, no more than 1/3 of fighters were foreign born.

So stop peddling this pa,jeet BS that all Kashmiri dissidents are foreign agents

Yes, they are traitors in Kashmir, just like there are traitors in Pakistan who gave up Ababeel missile secrets or kidnapped Pakistani families to be tortured and raped in CIA Black sites in exchange for a green card and pat on the back.

By your logic Pakistanis are all cowards and the whole Muslim ummah should all join the Taliban.


Kargil isn't even Kashmiri....

Kargil Shias are more pro-India than even Buddhist Ladakhis, expecting a revolution here is stupid enough but I don't have words to describe the idiocy of blaming Kashmiris for the actions of Baltis in Kargil.

By the way in the 90s the average Kashmiri kid would dream of crossing the border, training in Pakistan, and returning to slaugther Indian forces. Kashmiris would face the worst atrocities, some which even Israel hasn't done in Gaza like Kunan Poshpora mass rapes. Yet Kashmiris would fight, and bury their martyrs under Pakistani flags they secretly made at home.

But after 9/11 the Pakistani establishment did a complete U-turn, decided to go woke, accept LoC as IB and declare Kashmiri militancy as haram. In fact you have hypocrites like Imran Khan slobbering on the boots of Afghani TTP while advising the youth to not cross the LoC for jihad in Kashmir.


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The relationship between IoK and Pakistan is not perfect but let's not pretend betrayals are one-sided.

If Kashmiris loved India as much as you claim, then the Indians would've already held a referendum and ended the dispute as with as they did in Junagarh.

AJK people are Pahari pothwari belong to Punjabi ethnic group, they are not Kshmiri as Kargal and gilgit people are not Kashmir.
The irony is that brave pahari people of Jammu fought against dogra army and contributed in librating AJK but now their pahari kids think they are more Kashmiri than actual ethnic Kashur speaking people are( dar, wani, bhut, meet) and many of them start fantasising dogra jageer (jammu kashmir) to be free from state of Pakistan.

 

[Fatman17]

Duplicate thread

 

[PakFactor]

Yes indeed. Sadly there was more to it and as I stated much of it was hidden from the Pakistani people, otherwise the PR fallout would have been terrible.
You'd be surprised at the majority of people still don't know. The most read leave it at Sheikh Abduallah, who was then thrown into prison for his 'service'.

I think a fringe minority knows. My father didn't know until I told him, and he read about it in a book, too. His only response was, " They've lied to us our whole life."

 

[Maarkhoor]

ISI / CIA made Afghans to believe on 5000 years of non-winnable nations but reality is that Afghanistan woh ghanta hai jo her ghantey bajaya jata hai.

 

[Pogic]

I think a fringe minority knows. My father didn't know until I told him, and he read about it in a book, too. His only response was, " They've lied to us our whole life."

Would you happen to know the name of the book? Interested about this topic.

 

[r3alist]

tbh, another win for india post sindoor.

when indians wanna play the psychological warfare card, all they have to do is cook up another exercise on the border...

They have always had this option. It's meant to be spread thinner towards China.


But that would mean a difficult challenge for India.
I would say that ultimately considering the much smaller nation with more geopolitical difficulty is consuming your national effort this is a psychological loss

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@arslank01

tbh, another win for india post sindoor.

How is this a win, Arslan sb? Anyway these kind of military exercises are held every now and then.

Regards

 

[Master Chief]

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
These namak haraams will learn soon enough.

The Kabuli regime tries to bite our hand, mad dog FM will bite their head off.

 

[Dalit]

These thankless people feel so entitled, bite the hands that feeds them, openly support Pakistan's enemies like India and talibans, and at the same time they want to live in Pakistan and don't like the idea of going back to Afg

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The international community doesn't care nor can it do anything even if it said something. This is entirely a Pakistani affair. Pakistan decides what happens on its soil. If Afghans need to be deported, that is exactly what will happen.

 

[Signalian]

If Kashmiris loved India as much as you claim, then the Indians would've already held a referendum and ended the dispute as with as they did in Junagarh.


Would you dare say this about Palestinian Muslims? If not, how can you say this about your own people? I'm not even referring to IOK, but the equally or even larger Kashmiri population within Pakistan proper?

There are some traitors in every Muslim ethnic group including yours, doesn't mean you takfir millions of people like a 14 year old who just discovered Khawarij takfiri telegram channel.


And with what weapons will they fight this insurgency?

With what safe heavens?

With what infiltration routes?

When Bajwa wanted to bury the past and move on, when Musharraf wanted to accept the LoC as IB, Ayub refused to join the Chinese in 1962 war against India, Liaqat Ali Khan refused to exchange Kashmir for Hyderabad, were they all posessed by Kashmiri jinns?

AT ITS PEAK, no more than 1/3 of fighters were foreign born.

So stop peddling this pa,jeet BS that all Kashmiri dissidents are foreign agents

Yes, they are traitors in Kashmir, just like there are traitors in Pakistan who gave up Ababeel missile secrets or kidnapped Pakistani families to be tortured and raped in CIA Black sites in exchange for a green card and pat on the back.

By your logic Pakistanis are all cowards and the whole Muslim ummah should all join the Taliban.


Kargil isn't even Kashmiri....

Kargil Shias are more pro-India than even Buddhist Ladakhis, expecting a revolution here is stupid enough but I don't have words to describe the idiocy of blaming Kashmiris for the actions of Baltis in Kargil.

By the way in the 90s the average Kashmiri kid would dream of crossing the border, training in Pakistan, and returning to slaugther Indian forces. Kashmiris would face the worst atrocities, some which even Israel hasn't done in Gaza like Kunan Poshpora mass rapes. Yet Kashmiris would fight, and bury their martyrs under Pakistani flags they secretly made at home.

But after 9/11 the Pakistani establishment did a complete U-turn, decided to go woke, accept LoC as IB and declare Kashmiri militancy as haram. In fact you have hypocrites like Imran Khan slobbering on the boots of Afghani TTP while advising the youth to not cross the LoC for jihad in Kashmir.


View attachment 155903


The relationship between IoK and Pakistan is not perfect but let's not pretend betrayals are one-sided.

If Kashmiris loved India as much as you claim, then the Indians would've already held a referendum and ended the dispute as with as they did in Junagarh.

I gave references through historic facts, would you like me to back off from a useless argument ? I can give more references, throw more logical talk and keep refuting your posts through solid points. But Yes you are right since the tone and aggression that you show in your post, you will never agree with my points, so carry on.

 

[Signalian]

Kashmir cannot be liberated without liberating the Sikhs simultaneously.

Yes, sikhs in punjab whom Pakistan supports. Multifront fighting is not really a strategically beneficial idea. On diplomatic front its possible.

But coming back to the mujahideen who sat polishing their guns after Soviet withdrawal felt abandoned by USA as CIA left the region and KSA stopped the funds, so USA pressurized Pakistan to divert them towards Iran with the aim of creating chaos. Pakistan refused, and the stagnant 90's came into being for Pakistan. Maybe if Pakistan had agreed to do as USA wanted and sent in mujahideen into Iran fulfilling American designs, the F-16s would have come, Taliban would never have been formed and much of the blame on Pakistan would have been thwarted. Instead, Pakistan decided to test these AK-47 totters inside IOK.

 

[Signalian]

ISI / CIA made Afghans to believe on 5000 years of non-winnable nations but reality is that Afghanistan woh ghanta hai jo her ghantey bajaya jata hai.

The more you go into Intelligence operations of different agencies, the more it disheartens the way they make decisions which are beneficial for the country somehow but lack the luster of heroism and saving the world theme we see in movies.

 

[kambhakt]

Kashmir cannot be liberated without liberating the Sikhs simultaneously.

Why do you say that?

 

[Maarkhoor]

The more you go into Intelligence operations of different agencies, the more it disheartens the way they make decisions which are beneficial for the country somehow but lack the luster of heroism and saving the world theme we see in movies.

I am not agree with you brother if you watch Turkish series Aurtural Gahzi you will come to the real reasons GHADARI.