Russia-Ukraine War - News, Discussions & Updates

[MH.Yang]

Can you make peace with Hitler? Peace with Russia under Putin is not possible. That’s the finding in Europe.
The germans and the rest of Europe are interested of cheap oil, cheap gas from Russia, nothing else. Nobody wants war.

If the EU really didn't want war, there would have been no coup in Ukraine in 2004 & 2014.

At 2018 PDF, I told you Merkel was the greatest politician in the history of the EU. After losing Merkel, the EU and Germany are inevitably going to decline and split.

You didn't just laugh my prophecy at the time, but you also thought Merkel was a fool. Now do you see if my prophecy has come true?

The European civilians are seriously lacking in basic geopolitical knowledge. What is the most stupid is that they have never been able to realize that the United States not allow the European Union and Russia to unite. Once the European Union and Russia unite, the new European Union will instantly take away all the hegemony of the United States and absolute dominance over the world. The United States will not allow Russia to split and then be devoured and controlled by the European Union. Therefore, only the eternal enmity the European Union and Russia is in line with the interests of the United States.

 

[Viet]

If the EU really didn't want war, there would have been no coup in Ukraine in 2014.

At 2018 PDF, I told you Merkel was the greatest politician in the history of the EU. After losing Merkel, the EU and Germany are inevitably going to decline and split.

You didn't just laugh my prophecy at the time, but you also thought Merkel was a fool. Now do you see if my prophecy has come true?

The European civilians are seriously lacking in basic geopolitical knowledge. What is the most stupid is that they have never been able to realize that the United States not allow the European Union and Russia to unite. Once the European Union and Russia unite, the new European Union will instantly take away all the hegemony of the United States and absolute dominance over the world. The United States will not allow Russia to split and then be devoured and controlled by the European Union. Therefore, only the eternal enmity the European Union and Russia is in line with the interests of the United States.

Merkel was a communist pioneer. She enjoyed communist privileges. She speaks russian. She is a dreamer. She decided to ignore russian early stage of aggression. She let one million refugees from far cultures in. She is the root cause of new rightist, new facism in Germany. She is one of those who created that mess today. Plz don’t mention her.
You are from China.
You have no clue.

 

[MH.Yang]

Merkel was a communist pioneer. She enjoyed communist privileges. She speaks russian. She is a dreamer. She decided to ignore russian early stage of aggression. She is one of those who created that mess today.

If you look at things through the lens of ideology, you will continue to make mistakes.

If even Vietnamese immigrants such as yourself cannot escape Cold War-era perspectives and think about geopolitics with a realistic attitude, I believe the EU is completely. Here is a Chinese proverb for you: "弱小不是生存的障碍，傲慢才是", which means "weak and small is not an obstacle to survival, arrogance is."

 

[vizier]

I can only talk about my personal views.

In my opinion, the most important thing about the ceasefire agreement is to guarantee the most basic strategic security for both sides. As long as one side feels unsafe, then this can only be a temporary ceasefire agreement. Therefore, Ukraine's non-membership in NATO, limited and supervised military equipment, etc., are all necessary clauses. Secondly, China and the United States should set up a joint peacekeeping force to be deployed on the border, and sign to guarantee the peace agreement. This should be a security guarantee that the Ukrainian government can accept. Third, the ceasefire should be based on the actual control of the territory. Fourth, Russia should give Ukraine certain economic compensation.

It would be best if Ukraine accepts or is made to accept by Eu and other partners that they would officially not be in nato. However I doubt that they would accept this as a precondition. This however is somewhat ensured by the ceasefire agreement as I mentioned de-facto practially although not signed on paper unless Ukraine gives up officially all territories to Russia which is highly unlikely. Nato article 5 does not necessarily mean direct military involvement they are already getting everything except direct involvement from many members. Ukraine as well as nato members wont take that risk during the ceasefire. Limitation of aircraft-fighter drones etc. to Ukraine is necessary as you mentioned since it is a ceasefire not a boxing round pause to get up again to strike back. Russia can rearm so does Eu and strategic balance would be preserved.

After ceasefire holds in a peace agreement maybe 10 years later without zelensky and perhaps without putin there can be gradual land return agreements with official non nato declartion from Ukraine side in return.
From Russian side it is hard to accept economic compensation to Ukraine in fact they need the frozen assets back to return back to civilian economy from wartime economy. But I believe compensation wont be a prequisite from Eu-Usa side for a ceasefire agreement. Compensastion can be possible in the peace agreement perhaps 10 years later with all sanctions are lifted from Russia.

 

[Viet]

If you look at things through the lens of ideology, you will continue to make mistakes.

If even Vietnamese immigrants such as yourself cannot escape Cold War-era perspectives and think about geopolitics with a realistic attitude, I believe the EU is completely. Here is a Chinese proverb for you: "弱小不是生存的障碍，傲慢才是", which means "weak and small is not an obstacle to survival, arrogance is."

I am engineer I make math not ideology I say multiple times I am neutral observer.
The russians are on the way to hell. they feel good because they haven’t just noticed yet.
As for proverbs I give you the corresponding: “der Weg zur Hoelle ist mit guten Vorsaetzen gepflastert.”

 

[MH.Yang]

It would be best if Ukraine accepts or is made to accept by Eu and other partners that they would officially not be in nato. However I doubt that they would accept this as a precondition. This however is somewhat ensured by the ceasefire agreement as I mentioned de-facto practially although not signed on paper unless Ukraine gives up officially all territories to Russia which is highly unlikely. Nato article 5 does not necessarily mean direct military involvement they are already getting everything except direct involvement from many members. Ukraine as well as nato members wont take that risk during the ceasefire. Limitation of aircraft-fighter drones etc. to Ukraine is necessary as you mentioned since it is a ceasefire not a boxing round pause to get up again to strike back. Russia can rearm so does Eu and strategic balance would be preserved.

After ceasefire holds in a peace agreement maybe 10 years later without zelensky and perhaps without putin there can be gradual land return agreements with official non nato declartion from Ukraine side in return.
From Russian side it is hard to accept economic compensation to Ukraine in fact they need the frozen assets back to return back to civilian economy from wartime economy. But I believe compensation wont be a prequisite from Eu-Usa side for a ceasefire agreement. Compensastion can be possible in the peace agreement perhaps 10 years later with all sanctions are lifted from Russia.

If one were to follow Chinese political aesthetics to the letter, the best solution would be for Russia to hand over the territory of eastern Ukraine it has annexed for Ukraine to withdraw from several states where Russian-speaking populations are in the majority, and for a new state of Eastern Ukraine, dominated by the Russian ethnicity, to be created there Let the two Ukraines be hostile to each other and thus a strategic buffer for the EU and Russia. Of course, neither side is likely to agree to this solution.

 

[MH.Yang]

I am engineer I make math not ideology I say multiple times I am neutral observer.
The russians are on the way to hell. they feel good because they haven’t just noticed yet.
As for proverbs I give you the corresponding: “der Weg zur Hoelle ist mit guten Vorsaetzen gepflastert.”

Okay. Then you go on fighting with Russia.

 

[Viet]

Okay. Then you go on fighting with Russia.

Why should I go there for what?
Don’t you read my comments?
I am neutral.
If Putin wants to kill Russia, Ukraine including himself that’s not my business. If he wants to destroy Europe as Merk says it, that’s not my business, either.
I am here just to comment.

 

[Soldier35]

Footage of two Ukrainian M113 armored personnel carriers attempting to break through near Kupyansk and being engaged by Russian FPV drones. The APCs are equipped with the homemade "Tsar-Mangal" armor and reinforced "Dikobraz" armor, also known as "Hedgehog." This same armor is used by the Russian army. M113 armored personnel carriers have been produced in the US since 1960; a review of them is available on the channel. The armor of the APCs withstood several strikes by Russian FPV drones, but the rear of the APCs was partially protected. As a result of the Russian drone attacks, the crews abandoned the APCs and attempted to hide behind the combat vehicles. The video was filmed by drones of the 6th Army of the Russian "Zapad" group.

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Russian losses now exceed 23,200

 

[_Arabia_]

This failed Russian invasion of Ukraine will prove to be one of the most fatal mistakes committed by Putin and the oligarchy that rules Russia.

Strategic defeats everywhere you look.

They have almost surely permanently alienated Europe which was their main gas and oil importer and largest economic partner. Instead this market has been overtaken by the US (in particular) and somewhat us Arabs.

The Russian regime (oligarchy class) has also lost their influence among European politicians and lost Europe as an asset to hide their stolen wealth in. One just needs to look at all the Russian property that has been confiscated not to mention the 300 billion USD that have been confiscated by banks in the EU.

Confiscation of Russian central bank funds - Wikipedia

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They made neutral Finland and Sweden join NATO basically making the Baltic Sea an NATO enclave.

They managed to permanently alienate the Ukrainian nation, their closest ethnic, cultural and religious kin.

Belarus is close to an economic collapse and Lukashenko distrusts Putin because he fears that Belarus will be annexed.

All the former USSR states are on high alert and slowly and steadily removing themselves from Russian political, economic and cultural influence. From Kazakhstan to Azerbaijan to even the likes of Armenia.

That is without mentioning the untold Russian casualties, loss of life, normalization of attacks within Russia etc. and the economy being a mess.

Failure (war aim) of annexing all of Ukraine and controlling Kiev and either annexing Ukraine fully or putting a Russian puppet in power.

What a mess.

All that for control of Donbas which DE FACTO was already controlled (in the majority or at least almost 50% of it) by pro-Russian separatist forces before the invasion in 2022.

If Putin was smart he would have continued low-scale skirmishes within the Donbas and the end result would have been similar without all the negative consequences for Russia since 2022.

He underestimated the Ukrainian resolve.

Future Russian generations will curse Putin and his oligarchic regime for their strategic mistakes and incompetence.

If Chinese leadership is smart, they should study Russian mistakes very closely before they do something in regard to Taiwan.

 

[Hendarto]

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Russian losses now exceed 23,200

Yup, Russian is running out of tanks just as Russian is running out of chips and has to get from washing machine

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[Hendarto]

This failed Russian invasion of Ukraine will prove to be one of the most fatal mistakes committed by Putin and the oligarchy that rules Russia.

Strategic defeats everywhere you look.

They have almost surely permanently alienated Europe which was their main gas and oil importer and largest economic partner. Instead this market has been overtaken by the US (in particular) and somewhat us Arabs.

The Russian regime (oligarchy class) has also lost their influence among European politicians and lost Europe as an asset to hide their stolen wealth in. One just needs to look at all the Russian property that has been confiscated not to mention the 300 billion USD that have been confiscated by banks in the EU.

Confiscation of Russian central bank funds - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They made neutral Finland and Sweden join NATO basically making the Baltic Sea an NATO enclave.

They managed to permanently alienate the Ukrainian nation, their closest ethnic, cultural and religious kin.

Belarus is close to an economic collapse and Lukashenko distrusts Putin because he fears that Belarus will be annexed.

All the former USSR states are on high alert and slowly and steadily removing themselves from Russian political, economic and cultural influence. From Kazakhstan to Azerbaijan to even the likes of Armenia.

That is without mentioning the untold Russian casualties, loss of life, normalization of attacks within Russia etc. and the economy being a mess.

Failure (war aim) of annexing all of Ukraine and controlling Kiev and either annexing Ukraine fully or putting a Russian puppet in power.

What a mess.

All that for control of Donbas which DE FACTO was already controlled (in the majority or at least almost 50% of it) by pro-Russian separatist forces before the invasion in 2022.

If Putin was smart he would have continued low-scale skirmishes within the Donbas and the end result would have been similar without all the negative consequences for Russia since 2022.

He underestimated the Ukrainian resolve.

Future Russian generations will curse Putin and his oligarchic regime for their strategic mistakes and incompetence.

If Chinese leadership is smart, they should study Russian mistakes very closely before they do something in regard to Taiwan.

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[Hendarto]

The closing of the cauldron. Pokrov, the strongest of Ukraine's forts, is about to fall.

Panic has broken out among the Kiev forces. They’re retreating from Pokrovsk, while the “Azov” has refused to enter combat.

On the Pokrovsk (Krasnoarmeysk) front, the “Center” group continues active fighting for control over the Pokrovsk–Mirnograd (Krasnoarmeysk–Dimitrov) urban area. Around 70% of Pokrovsk is now under Russian control. The enemy has mostly been pushed beyond the railway line and cut off from Grishino near the settlement of 8th Group. South of the railway, clearing operations are underway. From the eastern sector, the enemy was driven out toward the settlement of Rog.

In Gnatovka, fighting continues for enemy strongpoints on the eastern outskirts. Panic is spreading among Kiev’s troops inside Pokrovsk. Units are chaotically pulling out of the city following their expulsion from Rodinskoye, where Russian forces have completed the cleanup.

Despite Syrsky’s orders to hold the urban area, Kiev troops have started fleeing Mirnograd (Dimitrov), where Russian units are already fighting near the 5/6 mine and the slag heap, having reached the Western district and the northern part of the city.

From the fortified zone north of Lysovka (between the two cities), the enemy has begun a controlled withdrawal while still holding part of the front line.

According to enemy sources, the “Navoz” unit refused to launch a counterattack or enter the urban area. Its forces remain on the outer perimeter despite Syrsky’s orders and Yermak’s attempts to persuade them.

Russian UAV crews controlling the enemy’s retreat routes are now having a “busy harvest.”We’ll see by morning whether Syrsky can find any “kamikazes” among his reserves willing to rush into the city and die just to fulfill Yermak’s wishes, while Zelensky’s foreign tour is conveniently underway.
According to the Telegram channel voenkorKotenokhttps://t.me/voenkorKotenok/68417

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[Hendarto]

Destruction of Vovchansk


A new drone view showing the destruction of Vovchansk City Centre, for which fighting has been ongoing for around 17 months. Extensive usage of Russian glide-bombs and constant back and forth fighting has left this part of the city practically flattened, with even the reinforced steel buildings no longer existing.

Currently, Russia has begun a new series of assault operations on the less-destroyed western suburbs of Vovchansk, which has seen significant successes in recent weeks.

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Kiev is burning

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