Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Signalian]

Signalian bhai, tell us what the corps of signals is up to -- any indigenous systems being developed to counter another important threat dimension -- Drones / LMs -- Not a bad job in May - but we need more and better systems to achieve effective soft kills.

Nothing. PAF cyber and EW domain did 99% of the task in May 2025 conflict.

P.S: are you graduate of Military College of Signals? I have some very good friends in military graduated from that college.

Yes.

 

[Vkdindian1]

IN had nothing up its sleeve for PN, otherwise it would have showed up.

With more than half the PN docked at Gwadar, PN had a lot up it’s sleeve while IN with multiple times fleet had nothing.
It is good to be nationalist but being blind in that quest doesn’t fit for a TT.

The claims that PN knew all the activities of IN is counterintuitive because they think that they knew all IN moves and assets.
What if they didn’t know about assets they didn’t direct? And how would they know that they detected each and every asset of IN?

There has been long debates on forum about PAF shooting down 7 x IAF aircrafts and other strikes inside India, go and read there.

I have read all about it. You can claim the entire IAF if you want. Claiming and claiming with proof are poles apart which a TTA should be able to grasp. I agree on 4 aircraft, but beyond that? A TTA can do better.

A TT making an assessment that IN would move it’s ships to
Eastern seaboard while best assets of PN were docked at Gwadar doesn’t augur well for your title.

Please leave that kind of chest thumping to fanboys and do some real work expected out of a TTA.

 

[Signalian]

Normally I ignore indians in this forum.

@Oscar @RescueRanger @Panzerkiel I have high respect for you guys and dont mean disrespect by tagging you guys.

But this guy is right. We need our Pakistani brothers to stop dreaming and realize that we cant keep everyone at bay so easily. may incident was skirmish. In skirmish we won, for the battle we need more than what we did in may.

The upperhand in all factions and domains is not reality.

This is short sightedness, inability to grasp military planning/strategy/tactics and poor understanding of military warfare in Pakistan-India scenario, on your part.

 

[Psyko70]

See if your team can do Mods for Warno.
Would be a very good way to show tactical battles

Is this going to be a AAA game?

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so far its like this. Other than that assets are being built to give a warzone, warzone feel. from bunkers, fire effects are ready will be done soon.

1. Volumetric clouds like in modern games
2. Will use 1k textures to keep game optimized
3. Also will have haider and t80UD
4. Drones, air strikes support for killstreak perks as likes of call of duty
5. difficulty settings with expert having real weaknesses in chinese and russian tanks.

 

[Psyko70]

This is short sightedness, inability to grasp military planning/strategy/tactics and poor understanding of military warfare in Pakistan-India scenario, on your part.

You are right. thats why I tagged some of the people who I know for a while on forum have better sight than me.

It will be a favor if you could tell me in what angle can we look into it.

 

[Signalian]

With more than half the PN docked at Gwadar, PN had a lot up it’s sleeve while IN with multiple times fleet had nothing.
It is good to be nationalist but being blind in that quest doesn’t fit for a TT.

The claims that PN knew all the activities of IN is counterintuitive because they think that they knew all IN moves and assets.
What if they didn’t know about assets they didn’t direct? And how would they know that they detected each and every asset of IN?

I have read all about it. You can claim the entire IAF if you want. Claiming and claiming with proof are poles apart which a TTA should be able to grasp. I agree on 4 aircraft, but beyond that? A TTA can do better.

A TT making an assessment that IN would move it’s ships to
Eastern seaboard while best assets of PN were docked at Gwadar doesn’t augur well for your title.

Please leave that kind of chest thumping to fanboys and do some real work expected out of a TTA.

Again, "the frog in well" talk from you.

IN is a much bigger naval force than PN. India had desperately tried to use all its cards against Pakistan especially after Pakistan retaliated and threw tonnage of weaponry on India, even more than 1965. At the point, India had advantage in several domains, apart from a bigger Army, Navy and Airforce, the RAW card supporting unconventional warfare inside Pakistan.

Just like IAF couldn't integrate weapons from different suppliers around the world to make a potent Airforce, Indian military as a whole (all branches) failed to utilize the Southern front of Pakistan from the coast line. If it was easier to lob a Brahmos from the air, it was the same from the sea from a new direction to divide Pakistan AD forces into defending two direction (North East all the way to the south). However, this is where IN failed to capitalize due to PAF/PN deterrence and its common sense that losing an aircraft vis-a-vis losing an aircraft carrier or a ship for that matter are two different kinds of losses. PAF's long range missiles and PA's MLRS had already inflicted much damage to India that even sending in drones didn't make a dent in the outcome. An aircraft carrier entering the war zone during a conflict, is a potential game changer. Its not just a new squadron of strike aircrafts coming from another direction but also a volley of Brahmos from ships. This is a massive failure of Indian military planners.

Its clear, that IN was a "sitting duck" with all its firepower during the whole conflict due to fear of losing its ships to Pakistan's Military.

 

[Signalian]

You are right. thats why I tagged some of the people who I know for a while on forum have better sight than me.

It will be a favor if you could tell me in what angle can we look into it.

The very first thing.

Pakistan military plans for war, an all out war, with all the aspects in mind, even if its thrown in a smaller conflict or a skirmish. The options to use which weapon in which scenario, to deploy which force, to arm which aircraft/ship with which weapon, and to take the conflict up to which level (say out of 10) is decided beforehand in peacetimes.

During any conflict, the plans keeps changing with variables as the development comes through updates in circumstances. The conflict leading up to a war, and having that upper hand against a bigger enemy is always there. A superior India if can subdue Pakistan in a conflict will have higher chances of subduing Pakistan in a war, therefore a delicate balance is kept to end the conflict before it turns into an all out war and likewise all the options are kept on table to mobilize forces for an upper hand if war is thrusted on Pakistan. This is done through formation movement, deploying reserves, bringing up reinforcement, readying the logistics line for a longer duration, initiating global talks on diplomatic front, calculating the damage which Pakistan is prepared to do to India and calculating Indian response for every damage that Pakistan incurs on India. I have discussed just a few factors so far to give you an idea.

 

[Signalian]

I have read all about it. You can claim the entire IAF if you want. Claiming and claiming with proof are poles apart which a TTA should be able to grasp. I agree on 4 aircraft, but beyond that? A TTA can do better.

A TT making an assessment that IN would move it’s ships to
Eastern seaboard while best assets of PN were docked at Gwadar doesn’t augur well for your title.

Please leave that kind of chest thumping to fanboys and do some real work expected out of a TTA.

When you can't fathom my talk then start bringing up the doubts on the title. An old tactic.

 

[Signalian]

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Start talks on the 1st Creek battalion, Pakistan Marines

KARACHI: Creek battalion commissioned in Sujawal

KARACHI, May 12: Pakistan Navy has commissioned “Creek Battalion” at Sujawal for deployment and sustained operations...

www.dawn.com

 

[ARMalik]

This dude wanted to be friends with India in another thread, definitely something up with him or a undercover paj-eet

Maybe he has watched too many panjeet movies and has fallen in love with some Indian actresses. He really needs to start lifting his standards for chics.

 

[ARMalik]

Navy doesn't need much more than accurate real time positioning which is garunteed by china. I am still very skeptical of how paf and PN combined operations will work because PN will absolutely require organic multirole aircraft and without significant shore and surface launch batteries most air cover will be provided by air assets which requires that AFB masroor be protected and able to dish out a significant number of sorties. Inshallah our navy never has to prove themselves because any real naval action will absolutely be costly in men and money and due to our size disparity we cannot afford to trade even frigates for destroyers.

And what sort of qualifications do you have to be "Skeptical"?? Are you some sort of born super genius who can outsmart and out-think PN and PAF professionals whose daily job is to come up with new tactics to kill enemies??
Or you are just making things out of your back-side?

If I have to take a guess it the latter.

 

[hasssanali8998]

With more than half the PN docked at Gwadar, PN had a lot up it’s sleeve while IN with multiple times fleet had nothing.
It is good to be nationalist but being blind in that quest doesn’t fit for a TT.

to bhai attack kyun nahin kiya , this is the second time you have mentioned pn ships docked as if Indian ships don't need to dock

 

[ARMalik]

i believe the word we all are looking for: is Ghazwa e Hind. That's the decisive battle and inshAllah victory is ours.
May Allah swt protect and bless our brave & valiant military forces and people.....

Ghazwa HInd or not, we will still kick the ass out of these dirty little indian panjeets, and Afghan cavemen.

 

[Psyko70]

The very first thing.

Pakistan military plans for war, an all out war, with all the aspects in mind, even if its thrown in a smaller conflict or a skirmish. The options to use which weapon in which scenario, to deploy which force, to arm which aircraft/ship with which weapon, and to take the conflict up to which level (say out of 10) is decided beforehand in peacetimes.

During any conflict, the plans keeps changing with variables as the development comes through updates in circumstances. The conflict leading up to a war, and having that upper hand against a bigger enemy is always there. A superior India if can subdue Pakistan in a conflict will have higher chances of subduing Pakistan in a war, therefore a delicate balance is kept to end the conflict before it turns into an all out war and likewise all the options are kept on table to mobilize forces for an upper hand if war is thrusted on Pakistan. This is done through formation movement, deploying reserves, bringing up reinforcement, readying the logistics line for a longer duration, initiating global talks on diplomatic front, calculating the damage which Pakistan is prepared to do to India and calculating Indian response for every damage that Pakistan incurs on India. I have discussed just a few factors so far to give you an idea.

Thanks. Clears the picture somewhat.

 

[Khan090]

I am advisor of the group working on indo pak war modern warfare. I am helping students design tanks and artillery that will be in environment fighting like NPC as its FPS game. So I tried to make Alkhalid or chinese tank desing. here it is. Game will be based on India attacks Pakistan and Pakistan army has to defend it wave by wave. One group will make game on armor and other on fps then both modes will be combine into single game. When its done next year ill invite you guys to test it.

CAMO is random. Will try to add more accurate one later.

Will this game be like "Call of Duty" series or "Men of War" series?