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Updated look at Midterm redistricting shows MASSIVE Republican gains​

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Will Sliwa drop out to keep Mamdani from winning NYC?​

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An *UPDATE* on all the important Elections of 2025​

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Republicans odds to win 2026 Midterms *SKYROCKET*​

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[AZ_HighCountry]

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Kindly refrain from making the thread about farming. There is a related thread for that.

 

[SolarWarden]

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I wonder what percentage of illegal aliens make up of those percentages.

 

[nahtanbob]

First of all, you still didn't provide me with any link, I quote you the USDA number. You give me nothing.

Second, you count as a farm worker whether or not you work on a farm. Fruit packing after harvest IS farm work, even if you work at the packing site, not a farm, you are saying it like bagger in a supermarket does not work in a supermarket.....but even with direct on-field farming, you don't just have 3 million people working for 1.88 million farm, farming require a bunch of people even if you are highly automated, you need a tractor driver to plow, sow and harvest (if you can use mechanical harvester, you can't do it with some crop and almost all fruit, those had to be picked by hand) and drive the commbine harvester durvesting, and then you will need mixer, mixing all kind of thing from seed to fertiliser in the trailer attachment, then you need a few observer to make sure you plow the right way, the right amount of seed is distributed evenly within any lane, and finally you need a number of farm worker to basically and generally help out at the field, things like removing derbis, covering stuff during thunderstrom, driving truck and so on.

A farm, even at a direct level, is not going to be 2 men job for a farm. Dude, you obviously know nothing about farming and your "Source" of information is sketchy at best.......

Google is your friend
meat packing, food processing work does not count as farm work.

 

[Davey Crockett]

I wonder what percentage of illegal aliens make up of those percentages.

They actually bring up the average, if that is what you are asking. Came across an article a few days ago that pointed out over 40% of immigrants in NYC are on welfare.

 

[j_hungary]

Google is your friend
meat packing, food processing work does not count as farm work.

I don't need to use Google as I used to work at a farm to know how a farm work. (Which you still refuse to supply your ref) and by the way, it's fruit packing not meat packing, you don't sell your harvest with individual fruit, bean, cobs and bundle, you need to pack them and sell them

And we are going off topic. @AZ_HighCountry had already pointed out, I am going to leave it at that.

 

[KingQamaR]

Fair assessment.

And, let's be realistic. It won't be limited to just one side.

It’s going to be like the years of lead in Italy or troubles in Ireland; decades of drawn out, sporadic violence.

 

[KingQamaR]

I interpret this to mean the Democrats are inciting violence as a means of goading President Trump into declaring martial law.

That would be horrible.

I reckon most Americans see through the state- sponsored bullsh*t.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I reckon most Americans see through the state- sponsored bullsh*t.

Personally, I see a lot, and hope it doesn't come to fruition.

 

[j_hungary]

I reckon most Americans see through the state- sponsored bullsh*t.

Depends.

Extremism in the US comes in many forms. Back when I was working in intelligence, we knew there was a route where a foreign group tries to influence a local extremist group (similar to what Wieambilla Shooting in reverse, where an American Far Right figure led the local shooting in Queensland, Australia, killing 2 cops)

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The way to deal with this is not to instigate. The problem is, some people are going to see Trump's use of the National Guard as a precursor to using force in the US, Most of these groups have local and international connections; you are talking about anti-government, anti-establishment groups, and the fact is, most of these are going to be lone wolf style, which means even if those groups in the states are not doing anything, you are still going to be encouraged or egged on by some international group. All you need is to just push 1 person over the edge.

Organised resistance at this point is very low. The problem, as I said before, is that we don't know how this is going to play out in the long term, simply because you can expect to stretch the population to the extreme left and then extreme right, and people are just going to filter out the facts. We had Jan 6 in 2021, that's closer than what we think would happen in a civil war than most people think, the issue here is, the left weren't actually doing anything in 2021 to have that sort of response, and who know if the Dem come back in 2028 or latter day, they would done more than they did in 2020, by then we won't be looking at Jan 6 style stuff.

Not saying this is highly probable, the risk is low, but is not what people think "Low"'s low.

 

[Foinikas]

There you go

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[KingQamaR]

Depends.

Extremism in the US comes in many forms. Back when I was working in intelligence, we knew there was a route where a foreign group tries to influence a local extremist group (similar to what Wieambilla Shooting in reverse, where an American Far Right figure led the local shooting in Queensland, Australia, killing 2 cops)

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The way to deal with this is not to instigate. The problem is, some people are going to see Trump's use of the National Guard as a precursor to using force in the US, Most of these groups have local and international connections; you are talking about anti-government, anti-establishment groups, and the fact is, most of these are going to be lone wolf style, which means even if those groups in the states are not doing anything, you are still going to be encouraged or egged on by some international group. All you need is to just push 1 person over the edge.

Organised resistance at this point is very low. The problem, as I said before, is that we don't know how this is going to play out in the long term, simply because you can expect to stretch the population to the extreme left and then extreme right, and people are just going to filter out the facts. We had Jan 6 in 2021, that's closer than what we think would happen in a civil war than most people think, the issue here is, the left weren't actually doing anything in 2021 to have that sort of response, and who know if the Dem come back in 2028 or latter day, they would done more than they did in 2020, by then we won't be looking at Jan 6 style stuff.

Not saying this is highly probable, the risk is low, but is not what people think "Low"'s low.

If people believe in right side or left side, they’re being blindsided. This division is what those have power need. Too many people are falling for this brainwashing. It’s also happening over here in the U.K. caused by the Reform Party.