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Ali_Baba
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Ideally you don't want the T1's, with their AMRAAM missiles, and no upgrade path of any kind, they offer limited amounts of military upgrade capability. Their utility however, will be in training pilots very quickly for the main deliveries.
Damned if they do and damned if they don't.
One side of the political spectrum is going to get upset anyways, so who really cares?
Apart from the fact that the Qatari fighters are practically new, the reality is that Türkiye bought new Eurofighters and due to the current geopolitical events, the government doesn't want to wait for them. I appreciate that.
I'd rather prefer pro-active politicians who recognize the threat and respond appropriately than those who engage in misguided pride.
Ali_Baba
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I dont know about that - I sat inside a upgraded Turkish F4 at a RIAT show a few years back, I quite liked the beast !! ( but yes, its military value is low these days ).
NTV:
The Eurofighter fighter jet purchase has reached its final stage. The final signatures will be made during UK Prime Minister Starmer's visit to Ankara next week.
▪️New generation Eurofighters currently in production for the Royal Air Force will be sent to Turkey.
Under the agreement, Turkey will also acquire Eurofighter fighter jets belonging to the air forces of Qatar and Oman.
The fighter jets to be procured from Oman are planned to be delivered to Turkey after modernization by the manufacturer.
With the signing of the agreements related to the Eurofighter procurement process, the training and adaptation processes for Turkish pilots will begin.
The Eurofighter fighter jet purchase has reached its final stage. The final signatures will be made during UK Prime Minister Starmer's visit to Ankara next week.▪️New generation Eurofighters currently in production for the Royal Air Force will be sent to Turkey.
Under the agreement, Turkey will also acquire Eurofighter fighter jets belonging to the air forces of Qatar and Oman.The fighter jets to be procured from Oman are planned to be delivered to Turkey after modernization by the manufacturer.With the signing of the agreements related to the Eurofighter procurement process, the training and adaptation processes for Turkish pilots will begin. 
Foinikas
Elite Member
That's for sure! And they're practically brand new,they got them what,in 2020? 2022? They're almost out of the box
Sami_1
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It's a good opportunity for the Turks, Qataris, and Omanis to get rid of them.
According to a Military Watch Magazine report,
Qatar Trying to Sell Off Eurofighters Just Three Years After They Arrived
While the Eurofighter 3A is a significantly superior fighter to the outdated F-16 variants currently being grounded by Turkey, the aircraft is significantly less capable than Qatar's advanced F-15QA fighters, and in many respects even less capable than the Rafale.
Oman, which also wants to buy the Rafale, also wants to get rid of it.
The Turkish Ministry of Defense is reportedly seeking to purchase less capable Eurofighters from Oman, and possibly acquire new aircraft.
Thus, the Turks have an opportunity to buy fighters that Gulf countries are desperate to get rid of. They could acquire them at a lower price, while the other Gulf countries focus their attention on higher-end aircraft.
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...s-after-they-arrived-why-is-turkey-interested
Qatar Emiri Air Force Eurofighter in TurkeyNick Jennings
The Qatar Emiri Air Force is seeking to retire its 24 Eurofighters from service, just three years after they began deliveries to the country in 2022. The Defence Ministry ordered Eurofighter Tranche 3A variants which are significantly more advanced than those fielded by the European partner states that developed the aircraft, and integrate the new Captor-E active electronically scanned array radar. Talks have been held to sell the fighters to Turkey, which has struggled to modernise its fleet due to ongoing disputes with the United States that led to its expulsion from the F-35 program. The Qatari Defence Ministry ordered the Eurofighter, the French Rafale and the American F-15QA in parallel, with analysts widely concurring that the decision to split orders between the three aircraft was intended to strengthen ties with a greater number of suppliers, at the expense of causing significant inefficiencies within the fleet.
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Qatar Emiri Air Force Eurofighter
While the Eurofighter Tranche 3A is a significantly superior fighter to the obsolete F-16 variants that Turkey currently fields, the aircraft is significantly less capable than Qatar’s cutting edge F-15QA fighters, and in many respects also less capable to its Rafales. The Eurofighter’s combat capabilities have been widely criticised, with the program failing to secure any sales outside the Gulf region, other than a small early sale to Austria, while its performance in exercises has reportedly left much to be desired particularly compared to American fighter types such as the F-18E/F and F-15, and moreso the F-35A. The fighter has accordingly lost every tender in which it has competed against the F-35, while consistently being ranked behind the F-15 and F-18 by clients such as South Korea and Finland.
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The Turkish Defence Ministry is reportedly seeking to procure further less capable Eurofighters from Oman, and possibly to acquire new aircraft. This would mark a significant boost to the program, particularly as the United Kingdom has ceased further procurements to focus funding on the F-35, while Germany which has faced significant industry pressure not to abandon the Eurofighter, has divided procurement funding between it and the more capable American aircraft. Turkey’s relatively poor relations with France and inability to order American fighters, and its status as a core member of NATO which prevent it from considering non-Western alternatives, have provided it with little choice other than the Eurofighter, providing the program with a rare opportunity for sales in a market where its competitors are absent.
The Sultanate of Oman found it a great opportunity to get rid of it and buy 24 Rafale F.43
https://www.tacticalreport.com/dail...elations-update-on-talks-regarding-the-rafale
Historically, the Turks are the largest buyers of used Phantom aircraft from the United States and Germany. Of the 233 Phantoms they have acquired, only 72 were new, while the rest were used.
They also purchased used F-5 fighters from the Netherlands.
Turkey expanded its F-5 fleet with the acquisition of NF-5A/B aircraft from the Royal Netherlands Air Force.
As for the F-104 fighter,
Turkey has received over 400 Starfighters from various sources.
The Turks purchased 40 new fighters, while the rest were disposed of by the Americans and Europeans.
In general, acquiring used fighters is better than acquiring nothing at all, and Türkiye is accustomed to this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_F-4_Phantom_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_F-5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Lockheed_F-104_Starfighter_operators
According to exclusive information of flight.com.gr, which come from our reliable sources in Germany, Chancellor Friedrich Merz gave the final approval for the sale of 20 brand new Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 5 to the Turkish Air Force. The contract includes a choice for an additional 20 aircraft, significantly enhancing Turkey's capabilities in the air. The deal, approved by Germany's Federal Security Council in June, provides for the production of aircraft on the British assembly line in Warton, which will reopen specifically for the Turkish order.
Chancellor Merz is scheduled to visit Turkey next week to discuss details of the deal, while British Prime Minister Kir Starmer will arrive on Monday, rather for official announcements and signatures. The decision came after the agreement of the European partners, Germany, the United Kingdom, Italy and Spain on the export, despite initial reservations due to geopolitical tensions with Greece.
flight.com.gr
At this point, nobody knows sh*t about the acutal state of the EF talks and everyone is claiming just something. I am out.
Chancellor Merz is scheduled to visit Turkey next week to discuss details of the deal, while British Prime Minister Kir Starmer will arrive on Monday, rather for official announcements and signatures. The decision came after the agreement of the European partners, Germany, the United Kingdom, Italy and Spain on the export, despite initial reservations due to geopolitical tensions with Greece.
ΑΠΟΚΛΕΙΣΤΙΚΟ: Η Τουρκία αγοράζει 20 Eurofighter Tranche 5 με άλλα 20 σε option - Πτήση
Σύμφωνα με αποκλειστικές πληροφορίες του flight.com.gr, που προέρχονται από αξιόπιστες πηγές μας στη Γερμανία, ο Καγκελάριος Φρίντριχ Μερτς έδωσε την τελική έγκριση για την πώληση 20 ολοκαίνουργιων Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 5 στην τουρκική Αεροπορία. Το συμβόλαιο περιλαμβάνει και προαίρεση για...
flight.com.gr
At this point, nobody knows sh*t about the acutal state of the EF talks and everyone is claiming just something. I am out.
hyperman
INT'L MOD
Yeah its likely for training but I think they can also be upgraded possibly especially with Turkish kits.
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