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yeah man , why cant he be like others and just tell what the his AF has , thats why we come here .
Exactly that. And he can't comprehend that it's annoying,tiresome and cringey when he posts the same lists of equipment AND photos every time. I mean,does he think we forgot how F-16Vs look like? Or how a Turkish missile looks like after he's already posted it two pages earlier? It's spam.

Should I start posting photos of Rafale and F-16Vs every time I mention the HAF?

Then he'll come and say "Don't compare your HAF with Turkish Air Force! Your pathetic Greece,Egypt,Israel,France,Iran cannot match regional superpower Turkiye! Not even close."
 
Exactly that. And he can't comprehend that it's annoying,tiresome and cringey when he posts the same lists of equipment AND photos every time. I mean,does he think we forgot how F-16Vs look like? Or how a Turkish missile looks like after he's already posted it two pages earlier? It's spam.

Should I start posting photos of Rafale and F-16Vs every time I mention the HAF?

Then he'll come and say "Don't compare your HAF with Turkish Air Force! Your pathetic Greece,Egypt,Israel,France,Iran cannot match regional superpower Turkiye! Not even close."
yeah , even Indians don't do this shit . they just tell you what the new advances are in iAF even though we bully them alot about tejas ( rightly so i might add ) . but hey if we say anything more posts will get deleted
 
It's getting out of hand...there're too many conflicting reports. I was under the impression that RAF had not yet placed an order?

The FT article (and they are reliable) seems to indicate basically two deals

1) 20 RAF planes plus 20 new builds
2) 12 Omani and 24 Qatari - To be bought up to similar standard to deal 1 (whoch will not require much)

Turks have done well here. Via a good relationship with UK and Arab states, they may well end up getting 56 planes (3 Sqds) very quickly followed by another Sqd (20 new builds) later.
 
Exactly,not yet.

You've been spamming lists of potential upgrades and potential weapons,oh it will have this,oh it will have that,oh OZGUR-2 TO BE BETTER THAN F-16V

And it all comes down to one phrase: "Not yet"

Like the Arabs say:

"3ndama"

3 years ago you said the same things with your trash posts
" MMM-E has discovered the network centric capability and link-16 . Well done, boy "
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And in 2025 , BVR combat has proved me right
Pakistan Air Force killed myth of RAFALE with METEOR Missile and SPECTRA System

Thanks to network centric warfare via AEWC , link-17 and PL-15 air to air Missile


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after 2 years , I will humiliate you once again when Turkish modernized F-16 OZGUR-2 Jets enter the game with MURAD-100A AESA Radar and 185+ km GOKBORA air to air missiles


btw same guys FOINIKAS , DEINO , etc thought Germany would never approve the sale of Eurofighter to Turkiye

Is there pain ? Eurofighters are coming for the Turkish Air Force

like the Turks says "son gülen iyi güler" ( who laughs last , laughs best )
Now I laugh at all of You
 
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The contract for the procurement of Turkiye's Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jet is expected to be signed today

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UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer , UK Defence Secretary John Healy and UK Air Force Chief General Harv Smyth are in Ankara / TURKIYE

27.10.2025
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The contract for the procurement of Turkiye's Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jet is expected to be signed today

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UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer , UK Defence Secretary John Healy and UK Air Force Chief General Harv Smyth are in Ankara / TURKIYE

27.10.2025
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Love how they took him infront of the Kaan - another way of showing that they need to commit to this deal, because the UK won't get another chance, with on going developments.

When this deal does go through, it would be interesting to see if Turkieye would consider the GCAP engine as a fallback if there are delays in its own programme, purely from a risk management perspective, given the performance requirements will be similar for the thrust requirements.

(yes, yes - all speed ahead for the local engine, but from a project risk management perspective, good to have a viable fallback option and this deal can open that possibility).
 
it would be interesting to see if Turkieye would consider the GCAP engine as a fallback if there are delays in its own programme, purely from a risk management perspective, given the performance requirements will be similar for the thrust requirements.

If We had a partnership with Rolls Royce 5 years ago, we could have finished the TF-35,000 engine much earlier.

The UK is only alternative to American engine technology in NATO for Turkiye

GCAP Engine Team makes progress on developing turbofan engine that will deliver unmatched performance for GCAP

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btw , 20 years ago , Italy invited Türkiye to join the Eurofighter consortium
but Turkiye joined American F-35 program

If we had the same mindset now, we would have likely joined the UK's GCAP program rather than the US's F-35 program.

The UK and Italy do not cause difficulties in military projects for Türkiye unlike USA and Germany
 
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If We had a partnership with Rolls Royce 5 years ago, we could have finished the TF-35,000 engine much earlier.

The UK is only alternative to American engine technology in NATO for Turkiye

GCAP Engine Team makes progress on developing turbofan engine that will deliver unmatched performance for GCAP

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btw , 20 years ago , Italy invited Türkiye to join the Eurofighter consortium
but Turkiye joined American F-35 program

If we had the same mindset now, we would have likely joined the UK's GCAP program rather than the US's F-35 program.

The UK and Italy do not cause difficulties in military projects for Türkiye unlike USA and Germany

The UK and Italy are trying to keep their defence capabilities alive, and partnerships and sales are one part of it. That is why they make better partners than the USA who are looking to use the agreements as part of "control/leverage" mechanism.

The GCAP demonstrator will fly in 2027, in the same way that the EAP flew a few years earlier. The EAP will use existing Typhoon engines, so the final engine will follow. There is a high degree of success for the engine, both via Rolls Royce, but also Japanese participation.

Turkiyes interest was served in the F35 programme(picked up a lot of new modern manufacturing techniques, and tooling) and would not have been served as well under GCAP. Kaan is the fright step for Türkiye right now.

Lets see what happens - it is interesting times for sure.
 
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Turkiye buys 44 Eurofighters from The UK , Qatar and Oman for £8 billion

20 Eurofighters from The UK
12 Eurofighters from Qatar
12 Eurofighters from Oman

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Turkiye buys 44 Eurofighters from The UK , Qatar and Oman for £8 billion

20 Eurofighters from The UK
12 Eurofighters from Qatar
12 Eurofighters from Oman

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are you sure its 44 for 8bn, not 20?
 
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First of all, try to be more polite and convincing. Don't be like an angry child who has no ability to understand or respond. You are defending yourself without reading, and perhaps without understanding, because if you had even a shred of understanding, you would have known that the person who mentioned this was a Military Watch Magazine report. It is the one that classified the Eurofighter as inferior, and this is natural because its electronic equipment is weaker, and at the same time, it has no combat record to support the nonsense you are saying. You should criticize those countries that got rid of it and found a customer forced to buy it. The Turks would not have bought the Rafale even if they had the slightest opportunity, but your words are different. The other point is that the Sultanate of Oman is moving to get rid of the Eurofighter Typhoon and negotiating to purchase the Rafale, which shows that your opinion is nonsense in and of itself. I don't know the level of confidence with which you speak, although things are clearer. If the Eurofighter Typhoon, after years of experience, had been of any value, they would not have gotten rid of it. Even the British themselves are getting rid of the T1 versions. Third, despite the fact that the Turks are accustomed to purchasing used aircraft, as I explained, and that they have no choice but to import used aircraft from various countries, the Turkish Air Force's development program is faltering, regardless of the frequently repeated propaganda and rhetoric. The Greeks have upgraded their F-16 fighter jets to the F-16 Block 70 level, and have received 24 Rafale F-3 fighters and 10 M346 aircraft, all equipped with AESA radars. Meanwhile, everyone is treating the Turkish F-16 fighters as inferior. The F-16V contract failed after the Americans refused to supply the F-110 engine for the CAN project. Even the new Eurofighter Typhoon fighters have an annual production rate of 14, and there are Spanish and German requests. Therefore, the Turks will have to wait years, perhaps until 2031, to receive new fighters. The negotiations with the Americans are the same. The Americans are manipulating you, and you will not have fighters until many years later. Therefore, no negotiations have succeeded except in the imaginations of some of you. In words, there is another kind of cleverness. You talk about future specifications that have not been produced and do not exist, and you claim superiority. You are never superior to illusions and dreams. You always claim that you are the best and the strongest and that you possess the best, but the facts are something completely different. Disasters will befall you, and the results of the Israeli strikes against you in Syria, against Syrian airports. Your strikes are not far away, not even the strike against Al-Watiyah. These are the facts. What is very shameful is that the bottom line is that you go and criticize Military Watch Magazine and criticize the Sultanate of Oman and Qatar because they are getting rid of the Typhoon for the first person who knocks on their door. I am happy that you will get these aircraft, better than the F-4, which has been in service for 50 years.

The Eurofighter is a better air dominance fighter, both Kinematically, its engines are better, it has a better thrust to weight ratio. Its AESA radar is better and a newer generation, with a longer range, and a wider detection angle.

It costs more to operate and its Air to Ground capabilities are not as mature as the Rafale, but thats not why Turkey pursued it, Turkey has plenty of platforms for the Air to ground role.
 

are you sure its 44 for 8bn, not 20?

20 for 8, the payment to Qatar and Omar are seperate contracts, but the UK is giving permission for reexport. Also Qatar is giving Turkey its Que position in line for the Tranche 4s, so in theory they should be delivered faster.
 
20 for 8, the payment to Qatar and Omar are seperate contracts, but the UK is giving permission for reexport. Also Qatar is giving Turkey its Que position in line for the Tranche 4s, so in theory they should be delivered faster.
makes sense.

also, the inflated contract value here is probably due to the TuAF purchasing stocks of weapons for all the 44 aircraft under this single contract
 
3 years ago you said the same things with your trash posts
" MMM-E has discovered the network centric capability and link-16 . Well done, boy "
Once more you prove that you don't get my posts. It's not about link-16 and network centric capability working or not,it's about you discovering a new thing and repeating it until you've brain-washed everyone here.
 

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