AJK govt bans Joint Awami Action Committee, notification issued

[Watandar]

seems like nobody is buying your cock and bull story...

Pakistani rights activist Mahrang Baloch sentenced to life in prison​

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pakistani-rights-activist-mahrang-baloch-sentenced-life-prison-2026-06-24/

Life imprisonment for an activist ? That's crazy. This Munir regime is walking straight into the trap international community is setting up for Pakistan in the future that involves Baluchistan why are they faujis so blind and stupid ??

 

[Areesh]

Well, my friend, party affiliation doesn't automatically discredit a valid argument...... A wrong remains a wrong, regardless of who points it out.

PTI leadership and supporters have spent past 4 years experiencing state high handedness, arbitrary crackdowns, and extraordinary lawlessness firsthand... It's hardly shocking that they speak up when similar tactics are used against others, especially when the same institution and the same methods keep reappearing....

Calling that bias or cultism rather than consistency is a rather convenient way of avoiding the actual issue......

That still can't justify being propagandists and deflectors for bla and ttp

Not good enough excuse for pti retardedness

 

[Areesh]

Life imprisonment for an activist ?

Happens when "activist" and her organization are related to mob lynching of a fc trooper

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Obviously you don't care. Neither does any other pti guy. But it is important to tell people reality about the said "activist"

 

[Areesh]

You have to be special kind of a retard to give coverage to a bjp sponsored protest against Pakistan in iok while claiming to be largest political party of Pakistan

 

[Areesh]

It is fun supporting "activism" of mahrang from your room

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It isn't your loved one who is being stoned to death nor being killed after checking nic

 

[M. Sarmad]

That still can't justify being propagandists and deflectors for bla and ttp

Not good enough excuse for pti retardedness

Well, that is a classic red herring.....PTI does not support BLA or TTP terrorism in any form...

But here is a question:

BLA is an armed group that intimidates, oppresses, and kills those who refuse to fall in line....

TTP is an armed group that intimidates, oppresses, and kills those who refuse to fall in line.....

The Army is not supposed to be such a group.... Its purpose is to protect citizens and uphold the law, not to punish people for political dissent.... Yet when critics, protesters, and opponents are treated as enemies to be subdued rather than citizens with rights, the distinction starts to blur.....


And if the defence is simply that armed men acting on behalf of the state are automatically justified, then on what basis do you criticize what the Israeli military does in Gaza or what the Indian Army does in Srinagar?

Either state power is constrained by law and accountability, or it is not.... You can't have it both ways....

 

[Areesh]

Well, that is a classic red herring.....PTI does not support BLA or TTP terrorism in any form...

But here is a question:

BLA is an armed group that intimidates, oppresses, and kills those who refuse to fall in line....

TTP is an armed group that intimidates, oppresses, and kills those who refuse to fall in line.....

The Army is not supposed to be such a group.... Its purpose is to protect citizens and uphold the law, not to punish people for political dissent.... Yet when critics, protesters, and opponents are treated as enemies to be subdued rather than citizens with rights, the distinction starts to blur.....


And if the defence is simply that armed men acting on behalf of the state are automatically justified, then on what basis do you criticize what the Israeli military does in Gaza or what the Indian Army does in Srinagar?

Either state power is constrained by law and accountability, or it is not.... You can't have it both ways....

Nice gymnastics

Stop deflecting for bla and ttp. Ask your party to stop doing this. They have already done a lot which shouldn't have been done. Stop digging that hole further

You don't need to do all these gymnastics for the retarded behaviour of your party. Introspection is needed on all sides. You do it on your side

 

[M. Sarmad]

Nice gymnastics

Stop deflecting for bla and ttp. Ask your party to stop doing this. They have already done a lot which shouldn't have been done. Stop digging that hole further

You don't need to do all these gymnastics for the retarded behaviour of your party. Introspection is needed on all sides. You do it on your side

See, you have no answers even to the most basic questions, so you have resorted to rhetoric and linguistic gymnastics instead..... I think that speaks for itself. Let's leave it at that....

And no, I neither belong to nor support PTI as a political party.... I support IK for the principled position he has adopted(a position I had once expected PPP to uphold)..... Your jibes, therefore, are quite pointless anyway....

 

[Areesh]

See, you have no answers even to the most basic questions, so you have resorted to rhetoric and linguistic gymnastics instead..... I think that speaks for itself. Let's leave it at that....

And no, I neither belong to nor support PTI as a political party.... I support IK for the principled position he has adopted(a position I had once expected PPP to uphold)..... Your jibes, therefore, are quite pointless anyway....

There is nothing to answer

Pti and its supporters are on a slope of retardedness to do deflections and propaganda for ttp and bla (like you kinda did in this thread)

That needs to stop. Or at least stop acting to be political party that belives in constitution of Pakistan (i believe you guys do). You can do better for your party without doing deflections for terrorist organizations. Period

 

[mythbuster]

Well, that is a classic red herring.....PTI does not support BLA or TTP terrorism in any form...

But here is a question:

BLA is an armed group that intimidates, oppresses, and kills those who refuse to fall in line....

TTP is an armed group that intimidates, oppresses, and kills those who refuse to fall in line.....

The Army is not supposed to be such a group.... Its purpose is to protect citizens and uphold the law, not to punish people for political dissent.... Yet when critics, protesters, and opponents are treated as enemies to be subdued rather than citizens with rights, the distinction starts to blur.....


And if the defence is simply that armed men acting on behalf of the state are automatically justified, then on what basis do you criticize what the Israeli military does in Gaza or what the Indian Army does in Srinagar?

Either state power is constrained by law and accountability, or it is not.... You can't have it both ways....

Let me ask you simple question and give me fukin simple answer Mr democrat ..... what was the sin of IK that he got shafted by the establishment ?

 

[Hazard]

Why would you say that. There are smaller independent landlocked states than Kashmir.

Kashmir cannot and will not survive as an independent state. And besides, neither Pak nor India, are willing to let go Kashmir

 

[hussain0216]

Let me correct that for you:


It is IMPOSSIBLE for the Army to trust PTI to safeguard Jurnaili interests


Because PTI represents the largest segment of the public and derives its legitimacy from popular support..... PTI literally is the country at present... whereas the remnants of a colonial governing mindset are unwilling to relinquish power and authority to the Aam Awam whether in Pakistan, or in Pakistan Administered J&K...

Colonial this, colonial that

The Messiah Imran will save all, with no plans, idiots as PTI members

All it will do is bring more chaos to a system that doesn't work


PTI at the moment is a terrible terrible party that can't be trusted at all to safeguard Pakistan interests

 

[Olympus81]

Colonial this, colonial that

The Messiah Imran will save all, with no plans, idiots as PTI members

All it will do is bring more chaos to a system that doesn't work


PTI at the moment is a terrible terrible party that can't be trusted at all to safeguard Pakistan interests

Who decides PTI is a terrible party that can’t be trusted? The Generals, PMLN, PPP?

At one time the patriotic Generals thought Nawaz Sharif, Zardari, Benazir could not be trusted either.

Ofcourse, the average Pakistanis do not factor in this equation as they are not cognitively capable enough to make that decision.

 

[M. Sarmad]

..... what was the sin of IK that he got shafted by the establishment ?

Apparently, IK's unforgivable sin was saying "Absolutely Not" to the American overlords of our dollar Khor Jurnails...

And as subsequent events have shown, the Yankees needed more spineless lackeys in Pak office to serve as the fallback option for their planned aggression against Iran....

Just as they "coincidentally" had Ayub in office during the Cold War, Zia during the Soviet Afghan War, and Musharraf during the so called War on Terror.... At some point, a pattern ceases to be a coincidence...

 

[Oscar]

Apparently, IK's unforgivable sin was saying "Absolutely Not" to the American overlords of our dollar Khor Jurnails...

And as subsequent events have shown, the Yankees needed more spineless lackeys in Pak office to serve as the fallback option for their planned aggression against Iran....

Just as they "coincidentally" had Ayub in office during the Cold War, Zia during the Soviet Afghan War, and Musharraf during the so called War on Terror.... At some point, a pattern ceases to be a coincidence...

While admirable as bravado - Simple explanations are however, chicken soup for the soul and that was not his unforgiveable sin to the establishment and had more to do with tit for tat on "boundaries" on "excesses".

Yes, the Americans found IK's comment brash but the cipher is the ultimate trojan horse for both IK and establishment on real issues.


On the subject of "convenient fools" and not that I condone dictators - but unlike Ayub and Musharraf - Zai ul Haq had one redeeming aspect that he was still pushing some key strategic ideals forward while behaving as a cooperative individual elsewhere.
For that matter post Musharraf Gen K stood firm on aspects (while compromising elsewhere) and so on.

The "line in the sand" then isnt a dictator aspect alone and requires replacement of a lot of other key figures within the establishment.

More importantly, while great for populism and as I mentioned elsewhere "simpler explanation for Pakistani educated suffering from complex PTSD" - Absolutely Not - is simply unaffordable for Pakistan especially where it stands DUE TO policies of the establishment(and others if you even dig into how much bending PPPP did in its time).

IK cardinal sin isnt "absolutely not" - it is abandoning his own principles for the "chalice" while not being really that politically shrewd as expected.