Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

Yes , that's why I said it was successful idea to establish greater israel during ww2 when all middle east was under either french or english occupation , they managed to infilterate during 40s and later in 1948 they declared their state in palestiane .

but since then what happened ? they couldn't even control sinai more than 6 years , invaded it in 1967 , they faced attrition war in 1969 and eventually in 1973 all is lost.
( note to mention we are about 30 millions person in 1973 and with shitty ass army) .

how can they control not only sinai but their greater israel map includes the DELTA and eastern egypt area !!! big area very big

Dude I said it's a project whose timeline exists in the centuries and which will employ many different strategies and adjustments. They have to completely destroy the Palestinians first, a people whom they thought they had crushed in 1948 but who have proved stubborn and refused to just go quietly in the night. Israel also knows its population is small hence their attempt to increase their own birthrates, attract immigrants and brainwash various people around the world to do their dirty work.

You could ask another question in a similar spirit which is why on earth are the Israelis attacking Iran ?? Can they really hope to subjugate and crush Iranians the way they have all their neighbors ?? Answer to any rational person is No, yet the Israelis are doing it anyway. In their mind and doctrine they cannot tolerate ANY challenger , today or 50 years from today.

With their treaties with the Egyptian and Jordanian dictatorships, Israel bought time to kill or expel all Palestinians, consolidate control of the land they have and to make themselves stronger. Eventually they will come for Jordan and Egypt as well.

 

[Immortals]

Trump loves this war because he is constantly manipulating the market and profiting off the backs of Americans and vassal states. As long as trump is making billions illegally manipulating stocks etc and israel wants greater israel, we might as well just sit along for the long haul.

What war? There was a brief skirmish in July and now Iran is under economic blockade. There is no “war” right now. It’s basically a de facto ceasefire.

Once again Iran’s practicing “strategic patience”, a policy that has been disastrous.

Syria lost, hundreds of officers dead
Solemani killed
Nasrallah killed
Khamenai Sr killed
Economic blockade

All in the name of strategic patience. It’s only a matter of time until Mossad unleashes another wave of protests inside Iran.

Country is truly led by morons. That’s what I have been saying on this forum (and its predecessor forum) since at least 2015.

All of this disaster was foretold by myself and some other members who weren’t consumed by the echo chamber.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Kyussis]

Was removal of Mossadegh also about zion? That was about energy and resources... no two examples are identical. This war was in the making for ages now... you have Mileikowsky pushing for it for over 30 years... yet it came under orange clown... and zion burned a bridge to do it... it's not like they don't need US again... they wished US burned down the path to their ascent instead.

As for zion that will remain on the region as a whole while US may permanently vacate mideast. And another president may sue for peace...
Even with Vietnam the congress shutdown funding before earnest evacuations started... the shriekster and the slickster are pushing for that kind of engagement and their are no taker... except for the few at the very top who have their ear.

Anyways, Iran will have to wait an avowed zionist out for one who puts America's own interests first... so that a rational dialogue can take place.

Some here just wish Iran was a "normal" country and just kissed Israel's ass like a good goy and never offend them by saying anything negative about the Genocidal religious/ethno supremcist state.

 

[retaxis]

What war? There was a brief skirmish in July and now Iran is under economic blockade. There is no “war” right now. It’s basically a de facto ceasefire.

Once again Iran’s practicing “strategic patience”, a policy that has been disastrous.

Syria lost, hundreds of officers dead
Solemani killed
Nasrallah killed
Khamenai Sr killed
Economic blockade

All in the name of strategic patience. It’s only a matter of time until Mossad unleashes another wave of protests inside Iran.

Country is truly led by morons. That’s what I have been saying on this forum (and its predecessor forum) since at least 2015.

All of this disaster was foretold by myself and some other members who weren’t consumed by the echo chamber.

Only time will tell. Too early to jump to conclusions be patient.

 

[Kyussis]

We really got to drop any further support for these Pallies for good. The troubles, backstabbing's, and overall BS that comes with it is simply not worth it. Let the 'Mecca Pact' carry the burden I say.

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Pallies? You sound just like a filthy Zionist. IR Iran will always support Palestine in spite of what people like you say. Deal with it!!!

 

[Kyussis]

Since when we can count on Saudia or Turkey to fight for Palestine? I didn't know that many Iranians have weak will , few months of intermittent war and they immediately blame Palestinians or Gaza or whatever ?. let Abbas say wtf he wants, it's known that he is anti-Gaza , anti-Hamas and a puppet to the jews.

I'm sure 100% that Iran hasn't lost (soldiers or money) more than Egypt when it comes to the Palestinian cause yet we still haven't abandoned them ( true that sisi is a fag and a puppet to probably all west and zion) however the people have other opinion.

The current war will turn Iran into a beast in this area (if they can handle it).

Don't mistake these Westoid runaway "persians" living in the west, for real Iranians. If it was up to them Iran would still be Sucking Jew C**K just as hard as the Persian gulf Arab.

 

[Bengal71]

Well it's OT, so it will be better to ask this in a new thread. I will just say that once upon a time in the 19th and early 20th centuries, people had similar skepticism towards the idea of a Jewish country being formed in Palestine. You have to remember that these Israelis work on timelines that span centuries. So Greater Israel is absolutely their goal, and it can take another 50 or 200 or 500 years to accomplish.

I highly doubt they will last 50 more years, let alone 200.

 

[Immortals]

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[Jalz]

What war? There was a brief skirmish in July and now Iran is under economic blockade. There is no “war” right now. It’s basically a de facto ceasefire.

Once again Iran’s practicing “strategic patience”, a policy that has been disastrous.

Syria lost, hundreds of officers dead
Solemani killed
Nasrallah killed
Khamenai Sr killed
Economic blockade

All in the name of strategic patience. It’s only a matter of time until Mossad unleashes another wave of protests inside Iran.

Country is truly led by morons. That’s what I have been saying on this forum (and its predecessor forum) since at least 2015.

All of this disaster was foretold by myself and some other members who weren’t consumed by the echo chamber.

They should have just stuck to the originally MOU if they are just going to wait around and do nothing. No need to put stress on Iranians for little gain. I suspect the leadership is waiting until the November elections to get a better deal.

 

[Jalz]

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[Master Chief]

I always have doubts about greater israel.
maybe there was a chance to make it happen during WW2 , when the middle east population were A LOT fewer than currently , there were no (sophisticated armies) , ( no resistance groups) and all middle east was under occupation.

but now , how can Israel rule over northern Egypt (Delta area) along with Sinai ? numbers of israel population is about 10 millions while Egypt is probably 120 millions, not to mention there is the iraqi militias , Hezb in Lebanon , Houthis in Yemen.

they couldn't even finish off all hamas tunnels and resistance in those years , how come can they easily obliterate and terminate all those people (millions) with their fewer number , using nukes ? will they rule over a nuclear-radioactive area? lol.

I really want to see the views of members here about this issue , how can israel rule over this huge area and terminate all its inhabitants ?

Good points raised.

Illogical for Israel to physically control huge swathes of land that they presently don't need. They could sure use the fertile plains of Lebanon and the untapped reserves (natural reserves AND Druze labour reserves) in parts of Syria, but beyond that, I agree with you completely.

Indeed, I would argue that the persistent threat of "domination through Greater Israel project" is a calculated piece of propaganda that results in the present and already optimised outcome appearing to be a case of "far more generous of us than what we could do to you lot if we really wanted to to". It's a classic bartering trap from a seasoned con artist. They started with an extreme position that they never truly wanted or needed.

Having said all of that, Tel Aviv will still mow the lawn as and when it suits them, so your point may be somewhat moot.

 

[Desert]

Indeed, I would argue that the persistent threat of "domination through Greater Israel project" is a calculated piece of propaganda that results in the present and already optimised outcome appearing to be a case of "far more generous of us than what we could do to you lot if we really wanted to to". It's a classic bartering trap from a seasoned con artist.

They actually use this point about Sinai when it comes to 1967 and 1973 wars.

"Look Egyptians , we invaded Sinai in 1967 and we left after 6 years so we can get back again whenever we want , don't test us."

they always use this line in their propaganda when there is a tension between Egypt and them especially in social media , they act like 1973 was just a journey and they didn't suffer anything.

 

[Flotilla]

Syria lost, hundreds of officers dead
Solemani killed
Nasrallah killed
Khamenai Sr killed
Economic blockade

All in the name of strategic patience. It’s only a matter of time until Mossad unleashes another wave of protests inside Iran.

Your one side view It is not fair.

Irán has been out of scrutiny of IAEA for more than a year and US even don't dare to bomb cities or industrial centers not to mention infraestructure.

So,
1.- A kind of deterrence over US have been achieved.
2.- Irán is closer than ever of weaponization of Its nuclear program.

The more tight blockade is the more closer to nuclear weapons.

Even you see how Trump and Netanyahu's speech about nuclear weapons are repeating less day after day.