8 Pakistan Air Force Officers Awarded Sitara =e-Jurat Medals

[Windjammer]

I am hearing from some people the eight 5th gen jets are already in Pakistan.

Don't make such posts as it gives our dear @Deino a nervous breakdown.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Ok but this is no proof. This is the same thing as the Indians claimed for the f16 in 2019 when they showed the radar signatures of the f16 stating that the signature disappeared and never showed up again so yes we destroyed it ..no thst is stupid . We know that probably the f16 hit the deck, went tree top below Indian radar systems all the way to sargodha.

Similarly here we cannot claim that s400 destroyed but yes they may have stopped using it for the remainder of the war so yes a heavy paper weight but still available to fight another day so you cannot keep giving medals for unconfirmed kills which makes us look like fools and we lose credibility. The su30 claim in 2019 was the same stupidity and then giving a tbt to Hassan siddiqui…just makes us look petty just like the Indians

not judging you or your argumentation..

but if we go by your logic, Normal Distribution to explain 'dark' truths in real replica should not exist, then, because everything exists in 'distinct' and distinct atomic structure (again, I am not judging you!)

truth is judged, never told!

 

[side-winder]

I am hearing from some people the eight 5th gen jets are already in Pakistan.

Totally wrong.

People think things work like magic -
How can we have J35s with no maintenance and other support setups having been established before hand.

Even more important than pilot training is the training of ground crew and other support facilities.

 

[Yasser76]

I am hearing from some people the eight 5th gen jets are already in Pakistan.

@Deino Told you....! Hahahaha

 

[Ali_Baba]

I am hearing from some people the eight 5th gen jets are already in Pakistan.

Oh man - not this again!!!

Lets not kick this dog, until it is fully awake of its own accord please.

 

[Yasser76]

What do you mean by “social media saved…”. Also why are we giving out medals on claims ? Tomorrow I will claim a Rafale…will I get a medal? How does this make us any different from abhinandan claiming an f16…which btw he never did .. Iaf forced his hand on it. He is a better man than Hassan siddiqui making a claim on unverified kills but neither one should have accepted the medals. I expect this low life behavior for Indians but the PAF I know is better than that. They don’t like beating their chests and showing off. They are quiet and humble yet can be cocky .

“radar signature disappearing” is not adequate proof of a kill and so this needs to stop. It is bull shit. There are many reasons for radar signatures to stop and a crash is just one of them.

Are you serious? When PAF makes a claim, it has solid evidence, we have not seen much of this but already people like Alan Warnes has already stated, and I qoute, "IAF was lucky not to lose 4 Rafales instead of just 3"

Articles will explain the details behind the claims very soon. So yes, when our pilots shoot down planes we give them medals. When Indians get shot they get medals.

Enjoy the cope.

 

[Raider 21]

What do you mean by “social media saved…”. Also why are we giving out medals on claims ? Tomorrow I will claim a Rafale…will I get a medal? How does this make us any different from abhinandan claiming an f16…which btw he never did .. Iaf forced his hand on it. He is a better man than Hassan siddiqui making a claim on unverified kills but neither one should have accepted the medals. I expect this low life behavior for Indians but the PAF I know is better than that. They don’t like beating their chests and showing off. They are quiet and humble yet can be cocky .

“radar signature disappearing” is not adequate proof of a kill and so this needs to stop. It is bull shit. There are many reasons for radar signatures to stop and a crash is just one of them.

Ok. Abhinandan being better......heard enough....

 

[side-winder]

What do you mean by “social media saved…”. Also why are we giving out medals on claims ? Tomorrow I will claim a Rafale…will I get a medal? How does this make us any different from abhinandan claiming an f16…which btw he never did .. Iaf forced his hand on it. He is a better man than Hassan siddiqui making a claim on unverified kills but neither one should have accepted the medals. I expect this low life behavior for Indians but the PAF I know is better than that. They don’t like beating their chests and showing off. They are quiet and humble yet can be cocky .

“radar signature disappearing” is not adequate proof of a kill and so this needs to stop. It is bull shit. There are many reasons for radar signatures to stop and a crash is just one of them.

You sound like a 10 year old - Hassan Siddique had no authority to "claim" a kill. The pilot can do nothing beyond the Fox 3.

The whole battlespace is watched by C2 centers. The pilot has only limited visibility of battlespace.

Btw Hassan was infact later called up at AHQ and scolded for a 'non-professional' act.

 

[airhead]

You sound like a 10 year old - Hassan Siddique had no authority to "claim" a kill. The pilot can do nothing beyond the Fox 3.

The whole battlespace is watched by C2 centers. The pilot has only limited visibility of battlespace.

Btw Hassan was infact later called up at AHQ and scolded for a 'non-professional' act.

He still should not be accepting the awards besting his chest in documentaries …not dignified behavior. We all know what happened to the SU30 similar to what happened to the f16

 

[side-winder]

He still should not be accepting the awards besting his chest in documentaries …not dignified behavior. We all know what happened to the SU30 similar to what happened to the f16

Again - childish stuff. Makes me really believe you are just an impersonator.

F-16 story is total made up stuff for facesaving. Blind and deaf abhinandan didn't know shit about what was going - let alone achieving any lock and kill. He didn't fire any missile. He had nill visibility of the Battlespace and his comms were disrupted to ground AD controller.

Hassan on the hand got a solid lock and launched the AMRAAM within valid firing parameters. At the very least, the AMRAAM made the MKI pilots shit their pants - and that's how you found the patches of "AMRAAM Dodgers" in IAF. Very proud effort perhaps.

It's very much possible that data being shown at C2 centers was enough to assume a genuine kill - and hence the claim based on some sort of evidence atleast.

The IAF on the hand had to lie through their teeth to claim an F16 kill just like they are lying now.

Criticism has to be valid with logical points - not like childish stuff just to look cool - which you are trying to do here.

I can perhaps easily write a 1000 words essay on "what's not right in PAF" highlighting genuine issues and not come up with this childish stuff where air chief not sitting in front cockpit is the biggest issue.

 

[Deino]

I am hearing from some people the eight 5th gen jets are already in Pakistan.

Yes, and India will have a stealth Bomber in five years, Putin & Trump will Share the Peace Nobel Price this year and there is intelligent Life on Venus

 

[Metal 0-1]

I think this is the time everyone should drop this brick wall head banging conversation

 

[Yasser76]

What you are saying about PAFs claim on su30 in 2019 is exactly the same as what Indians claimed on F16. Infact they showed actual radar signatures in detailed press conference by one of their avm. So I don’t buy this bullshit that somehow our claim is more credible than Indian claim simply because we got a missile off the rack. The radar signature is not a kill confirmation so not sure where this reaction is coming from. Just accept the fact that both kills were bogus and move on

Love the fact you get outed after just two or three posters correcting you.

 

[side-winder]

What you are saying about PAFs claim on su30 in 2019 is exactly the same as what Indians claimed on F16. Infact they showed actual radar signatures in detailed press conference by one of their avm. So I don’t buy this bullshit that somehow our claim is more credible than Indian claim simply because we got a missile off the rack. The radar signature is not a kill confirmation so not sure where this reaction is coming from. Just accept the fact that both kills were bogus and move on

You are just giving away your real ID dude. Stop it.

For an instance even if you take those two pictures as valid. Do you know you can manually add and delete the tracks on C2 console? Those two images don't prove shit. A live recording of actual moving tracks showing a missile launch towards target and subsequent vanishing of track could perhaps give some substance to IAF's claim.

However, none of it matters since plenty of counter proof already exists including all four unfired missiles and US count of F16s.

Anyone who has even a remote link with PAF knows exactly that F16 claim was a total bullshit story that was made up for public consumption. Su30s case is totally different.

Now stop it. You don't make any sense at all. And certainly you don't know shit about PAF.

So I don’t buy this bullshit that somehow our claim is more credible than Indian claim simply because we got a missile off the rack.

What even? Are you for real?
It certainly makes it more credible than theirs whereby the missile wasn't even let off the rail - while our AMRAAM was found within hours and live telecasted all over the media. What it did hit or didn't hit is a matter of dispute. While on the other side - you don't even reach this far in debate.

Stop being cool. You don't look cool with these childish arguments.

 

[Yasser76]

You are just giving away your real ID dude. Stop it.

For an instance even if you take those two pictures as valid. Do you know you can manually add and delete the tracks on C2 console? Those two images don't prove shit. A live recording of actual moving tracks showing a missile launch towards target and subsequent vanishing of track could perhaps give some substance to IAF's claim.

However, none of it matters since plenty of counter proof already exists including all four unfired missiles and US count of F16s.

Anyone who has even a remote link with PAF knows exactly that F16 claim was a total bullshit story that was made up for public consumption. Su30s case is totally different.

Now stop it. You don't make any sense at all. And certainly you don't know shit about PAF.

Preferred it when they posed as Frenchmen or Americans on here to be honest. Posing as Pakistanis on a Pakistani forum will be very very short lived for this "Pindi" boy.