Afghanistan: General News and Discussion

[Indos]

Easy in killing other Muslim when there is dispute but hard for small thing duh

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Lets see ,

I am reading about Genocide in Palestine on one side , 40,000 Death counted, possible 200,000 under the rubble of building

The other side has this story of some garment , wearing subjective thing /trivial - Afghanistan is a "Trivial" small issue

I like to say that the Genocide happening in Palestine is a far important subject right now , they are killing you regardless of what garment you wear


It is time to focus on the real elephant in room

 

[Lulldapull]

Lets see ,

I am reading about Genocide in Palestine on one side , 40,000 Death counted, possible 200,000 under the rubble of building

The other side has this story of some garment , wearing subjective thing /trivial - Afghanistan is a "Trivial" small issue

I like to say that the Genocide happening in Palestine is a far important subject right now , they are killing you regardless of what garment you wear


It is time to focus on the real elephant in room

What is de elephant?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The obvious issue in our world today which impacts all Muslims

 

[onlinpunit]

Brave

Lets see ,

I am reading about Genocide in Palestine on one side , 40,000 Death counted, possible 200,000 under the rubble of building

The other side has this story of some garment , wearing subjective thing /trivial - Afghanistan is a "Trivial" small issue

I like to say that the Genocide happening in Palestine is a far important subject right now , they are killing you regardless of what garment you wear


It is time to focus on the real elephant in room

What was the causality figure in Afghan Wars by Taliban. ?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I don't know about Taliban , but I do recall a outside country wanted to fight russia in cold war there

I only remember that part

 

[ghazi52]

Taliban bans the sound of women’s voices singing or reading in public​

Associated Press
August 22, 2024

The Taliban said women wouldn't face discrimination.

Afghanistan’s Taliban rulers are cracking down on the sound of women’s voices in public, under a strict new set of vice and virtue laws under the Islamist regime.

The laws were issued Wednesday after they were approved by supreme leader Hibatullah Akhundzada, a government spokesman said, and cover aspects of everyday life like public transportation, music, shaving and celebrations.

Among the new rules, Article 13 relates to women: It says it is mandatory for a woman to veil her body at all times in public and that a face covering is essential to avoid temptation and tempting others. Clothing should not be thin, tight or short.

Women are also obliged to cover themselves in front of non-Muslim males and females to avoid being corrupted. A woman’s voice is deemed intimate and so should not be heard singing, reciting, or reading aloud in public. It is forbidden for women to look at men they are not related to by blood or marriage and vice versa.

“Inshallah we assure you that this Islamic law will be of great help in the promotion of virtue and the elimination of vice,” said ministry spokesman Maulvi Abdul Ghafar Farooq on Thursday, of the new laws.

First formal declaration of vice and virtue laws​

The 114-page, 35-article document seen by The Associated Press constitutes the first formal declaration of vice and virtue laws in Afghanistan since the Taliban seized power in 2021, when it also set up a ministry for the “propagation of virtue and the prevention of vice.”

The laws will empower the ministry to be at the frontline of regulating personal conduct, administering punishments like warnings or arrest if enforcers allege that Afghans have broken the laws.

The laws ban the publication of images of living beings, threatening an already fragile Afghan media landscape; the playing of music; the transportation of solo female travelers; and the mixing of men and women who are not related to each other. The laws also oblige passengers and drivers to perform prayers at designated times.

According to the ministry website, the promotion of virtue includes prayer, aligning the character and behavior of Muslims with Islamic law, encouraging women to wear hijab, and inviting people to comply with the five pillars of Islam. It also says the elimination of vice involves prohibiting people from doing things forbidden by Islamic law.

Last month, a U.N. report said the ministry was contributing to a climate of fear and intimidation among Afghans through edicts and the methods used to enforce them.

It said the ministry’s role was expanding into other areas of public life, including media monitoring and eradicating drug addiction.

“Given the multiple issues outlined in the report, the position expressed by the de facto authorities that this oversight will be increasing and expanding gives cause for significant concern for all Afghans, especially women and girls,” said Fiona Frazer, the head of the human rights service at the U.N. mission in Afghanistan.

The Taliban rejected the U.N. report.

CNN’s Jennifer Hauser contributed to this report

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I am sure they will sort this out , in time

At least they are not bombing and killing 187,000 Muslim in their country like in Gaza

There rules are just life style adjustments

The rules are similar to how People expect

• School children to cut their hair in professional manner
• Wear certain color uniform coming to school
• Office dress code , don't come to office in Bikini

Segregated schools are common also in west for Boys and Girls
It is no news


Perspective is important


Note: I don't have to agree with their decision

 

[Skukuza]

If Afghanistan wasn't so conflict ridden, I would love to move there with my wife

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I would not say Afghanistan is greatest place to be but they will sort out their country they have been at war for 30-40 years , it will take them time before they can sort out their own country

 

[Persian Gulf]

disgusting terrorists

women can't even leave their homes without being accompanied with a man ... they have no lives or autonomy ...

terrorist Taliban have to go to the dustbin of history

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Much of Afghanistan is a rural area , it is bit more dangerous as well
Having a guardian while travelling is quite common practice in rural areas of many part of world

Society , is not universal across the globe some regions are more rural and dangerous then other

Seems like smart idea to travel with small party or guardian

Look forward to see how Afghanistan-China will develop various economic projects in Afghanistan

Often I find , people of world assume , Rural /mountain area of Afghanistan are , some garden of shopping mall

As a Pakistani Nothing but good wishes for them to improve their nation and also improve ties with our nation down the road

Fact/History

• In 1700-1800 , in America , most of the Settlers travelled with guardians , why ? Because of need for safety on road

This is not a problem, as their country will develop their security will improve and they will of course adjust the laws

 

[LeGenD]

Much of Afghanistan is a rural area , it is bit more dangerous as well
Having a guardian while travelling is quite common practice in rural areas of many part of world

Society , is not universal across the globe some regions are more rural and dangerous then other

Seems like smart idea to travel with small party or guardian

Look forward to see how Afghanistan-China will develop various economic projects in Afghanistan

Often I find , people of world assume , Rural /mountain area of Afghanistan are , some garden of shopping mall

As a Pakistani Nothing but good wishes for them to improve their nation and also improve ties with our nation down the road

Fact/History

• In 1700-1800 , in America , most of the Settlers travelled with guardians , why ? Because of need for safety on road

This is not a problem, as their country will develop their security will improve and they will of course adjust the laws

Are you serious? Do you see Taliban laws in practice in Turkey or China? A modern country is supposed to have transport systems to move people across rural, peri-urban, and urban areas; there is no need for a woman to travel with a male guardian all the time. WE live in times of firearms, having a male guardian makes no difference whatsoever. The state is responsible for public safety. Taliban never said that their laws are limited to rural areas. And you are expecting miracles from Taliban governance. WE all have seen how good were Taliban back in the 1990s when Afghanistan became a staging ground for terrorism around the world. China will mine Afghan natural resources for its needs and pay toll to Taliban, good way forward. No wonder why some countries never develop.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I think my explanation was reasonable

Let us not compare Afghanistan , with other nations of world
One has gone thru 40 years of war. It takes for Nations to evolve after a period of normal growth

"When a child is born , it takes them time to become PHD, similarly a new nation under new management takes time to evolve it's laws"

Travelling with Guardian is dependant on the safety of your own country's roads and streets

If you live in dangerous town , yes Guardian should travel with women. Even tourist visiting Pakistan are advised to travel with Guardian

All the best for Afghanistan hope they find the answers to their own society and grow


PS: China or Turkey are advance nations with 50-60 year of stability

 

[KingQamaR]

I think my explanation was reasonable

Let us not compare Afghanistan , with other nations of world
One has gone thru 40 years of war. It takes for Nations to evolve after a period of normal growth

"When a child is born , it takes them time to become PHD, similarly a new nation under new management takes time to evolve it's laws"

Travelling with Guardian is dependant on the safety of your own country's roads and streets

If you live in dangerous town , yes Guardian should travel with women. Even tourist visiting Pakistan are advised to travel with Guardian

All the best for Afghanistan hope they find the answers to their own society and grow


PS: China or Turkey are advance nations with 50-60 year of stability

The Afghan women are Conservative too. They probably welcome the new restrictions. Good point by you, It’s to stop them getting assaulted. Half the men there are homeless drug addicts and per verted to boot. It’s a way for women to be protected