AJK govt bans Joint Awami Action Committee, notification issued

[Owaiz]

Pakistan especially AJ of Qatar which is a despotic monarchist regime complicit in the modern day slave trade.

I thought it was a brotherly nation that helped us co-mediate the Islamabad Peace Accord in their property in Bergenstock and we were even considering signing a defense pact with them in exchange for gas and money.

 

[Distant_Observer]

I thought it was a brotherly nation that helped us co-mediate the Islamabad Peace Accord in their property in Bergenstock and we were even considering signing a defense pact with them in exchange for gas and money.

"Brotherly" nations don't weaponize their media.

They need to do something about the youtubers now, they are constantly churning out anti state jibberish and have had a direct hand in the multiple civil unrests including May 9th.

Pakistan needs stability. It doesn't need Imran Khan cultists egging on the terrorists and ethnofascists just because this womanizing epsteinian charlatan stole a watch and ended up in jail.

 

[Owaiz]

"Brotherly" nations don't weaponize their media.

They need to do something about the youtubers now, they are constantly churning out anti state jibberish and have had a direct hand in the multiple civil unrests including May 9th.

Reporting the truth can only be considered a weapon by those who want to peddle lies.

How about the state stop its anti people policies, which are the underlying cause of the civil unrest ?

 

[Distant_Observer]

Reporting the truth can only be considered a weapon by those who want to peddle lies.

How about the state stop its anti people policies, which are the underlying cause of the civil unrest ?

Selective yellow journalism is not the truth.

Calling terrorists as "freedom fighters" is not the truth.

Its a perversion and an insult to our fallen.

AJ should have been banned years ago, they should authorize airstrikes on their offices in Doha and all the Pakistani citizens attempting to monetize anti Pakistani sentiment on social media should be brought back to face justice.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Distant_Observer

It doesn't need Imran Khan cultists egging on the terrorists and ethnofascists just because this womanizing epsteinian charlatan stole a watch and ended up in jail.

Whatever criticism maybe levelled at Kaptaan sb, being an Epsteinian isn't one of them. In fact, he is the only global politician specifically mentioned as someone who could never be bought or seduced by the Epstein circle. Kaptaan sb never needed to play dirty tricks, there were enough ladies from around the world who would happily give him company.

Regards

 

[Goenitz]

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[Oscar]

Neat swap..... You changed the question, then declared yourself winner of the new one !!


I never said the sound version is common.... Not common, not rare, not majority, nothing...... I said it exists, and you parked it next to the conspiracy anyway.... Existence, not headcount..... That was the whole charge, and you answered a different one so confidently....


And spare me the strawman complaint.... You said zionist, I quoted zionist, and now quoting you is a strawman...... Bold way to spell owning your words...... Widen it to all conspiracy if you like, it changes nothing, the point was never the flavour of the tinfoil but that you swept the reasoned critique in with it....


Now I am meant to prove the sound version is the majority.... Why? I never put a number on it. You invented that burden and handed it to me....


How outnumbered the sound version is tells you nothing about whether it is sound...... The tinfoil can be 90 percent of the noise and the reasoned critique is still reasoned........ Filing it next to the conspiracy is still a smear.


So common tinfoil is not the gotcha you think.... I never said it was rare.... You are refuting a claim I did not make, because the one I did make, that you bundled the sound version in with the mad one, has no answer...... And you did it again, in the very post demanding I prove it does not happen.

Wither winner and dithering AI replies.

This is adding nothing to the actual discussion other than back and forth slop at this point.

 

[Master Chief]

Reporting the truth can only be considered a weapon by those who want to peddle lies.

How about the state stop its anti people policies, which are the underlying cause of the civil unrest ?

Selective truth is not truth. Omission of facts is also not truth. Obfuscation is also not truth. That is all before we even get to the possibility that simple lies are being "peddled".

 

[M. Sarmad]

Wither winner and dithering AI replies.

This is adding nothing to the actual discussion other than back and forth slop at this point.

It actually stopped being a discussion the moment I quoted your own words back.... That was not nosie, that was just the part you did not want to answer.... Call it AI if that makes it easier.... The words are still yours, and they are still there.... Happy to leave it here though

 

[Oscar]

It actually stopped being a discussion the moment I quoted your own words back.... That was not nosie, that was just the part you did not want to answer.... Call it AI if that makes it easier.... The words are still yours, and they are still there.... Happy to leave it here though

Im not in this for a watercooler prize.

Still does not address any of the original ask on “is providing an alternative explanation” automatically a call for throwing tape recorded party line anti establishment slop?

And whether there is a way to use the system to change the system… which is the more important question

 

[M. Sarmad]

Im not in this for a watercooler prize.

Still does not address any of the original ask on “is providing an alternative explanation” automatically a call for throwing tape recorded party line anti establishment slop?

And whether there is a way to use the system to change the system… which is the more important question

Not in it for a watercooler prize either, so we agree on the thing that matters least....

And I did answer.... You quoted my post, talked about motivated reasoning, then did it yourself in the same post by lumping the sound justified criticism in with the conspiracy....... I just pointed that out...

The PTI/tap recorder party line jab is off too..... I am about as pro PTI as you are pro establishment...... I back them on one thing only, a majority voted and the mandate was taken away..... Objecting to that is not fandom, it is the same point I have made all along...... If that sounds like party line, maybe it is just not the line you are used to....

Said my piece. Leaving it here.

 

[Oscar]

Not in it for a watercooler prize either, so we agree on the thing that matters least....

And I did answer.... You quoted my post, talked about motivated reasoning, then did it yourself in the same post by lumping the sound justified criticism in with the conspiracy....... I just pointed that out...

The PTI/tap recorder party line jab is off too..... I am about as pro PTI as you are pro establishment...... I back them on one thing only, a majority voted and the mandate was taken away..... Objecting to that is not fandom, it is the same point I have made all along...... If that sounds like party line, maybe it is just not the line you are used to....

Said my piece. Leaving it here.

Both ways we are not disagreeing other than assumptions.

Ok
So here is a clean slate

I do not object to valid criticism - I object to pointless rallying cries without solutions and only repeating party lines ad nauseum.
Saying the establishment is corrupt is not a party line - it’s valid.

Saying the establishment works for zionists is however a cuckoo party line.

I do not disagree that the PTI mandate was stolen regardless of how idiotic I find their leader(among everyone else)

But - if we do agree that while the establishment is the core of a lot of ills -then it is also a mechanism that potentially could be used to deliver some form of solution because clearly all other avenues have failed.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Both ways we are not disagreeing other than assumptions.

Ok
So here is a clean slate

I do not object to valid criticism - I object to pointless rallying cries without solutions and only repeating party lines ad nauseum.
Saying the establishment is corrupt is not a party line - it’s valid.

Saying the establishment works for zionists is however a cuckoo party line.

I do not disagree that the PTI mandate was stolen regardless of how idiotic I find their leader(among everyone else)

But - if we do agree that while the establishment is the core of a lot of ills -then it is also a mechanism that potentially could be used to deliver some form of solution because clearly all other avenues have failed.

Appreciate the "reset".... We agree on the first 2... criticism should carry a solution... and the mandate was stolen, whatever we think of the man...

But I, for one, believe that the establishment cannot be the solution because it itself is the real problem... You do not put out a fire with petrol...... An institution whose survival depends on the status quo i.e, mess staying a mess is not going to hand you the fix, ever....

My solution is real democracy as it has not been tried here in 80 years.... not once given a clean run.... That is the untested door..... And if we try it and still fail, at least we fail on a principle instead of on our knees....