Yasser76
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One is one paper. Can I now compare my own paper design too?
AMCA vs KAAN vs KF-21 India Turkey & Korea’s Fighter Jets Battle For Air Supremacy—Who Leads The Pack? OP-ED
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One is one paper. Can I now compare my own paper design too?
NGAD IS THE BEST
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Don't change the topic
MMM-E
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You changed the topic when I showed you a source from American GE
And as of 2025 , Turkiye itself developing the TF-6.000 , TF-10.000 and TF-35.000 turbofan Engines
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and stop calling Turkish Defense Companies propaganda source
5 of Türkiye's defense companies were a part of the global top 100 most valuable defense firms list in 2025, according to Defense News' Top 100 list
Turkiye is only muslim Country with high technology and 5 defense firms on the list
NGAD IS THE BEST
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Maybe these are authentic source but you're doing Turkish propaganda very well
A job very well done
Flotilla
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Today, semi-official spanish military news site published an article about the export F110 issue between US and Turkey.
www.defensa.com
The article says that GE F404 is cleared for export to Turkey (while in other part of the article speaks about license production). Anyway the article is emphasizing that US Congress are obstructing the F110 to Turkey.
Day after day seems clear that US wants to withdraw a competitor to their F35. So I think Turkey would do better if they directly develop their own low by pass high thrust turbofan and just purchase a chinese engine for their first batch.
US will do the same they did with the T129 to Pakistan and Morocco.
Estados Unidos sigue sin aprobar la exportación del motor F110 para el avión de combate Kaan turco, el del Hürjet, de momento, tiene luz verde
Estados Unidos sigue sin aprobar la exportación del motor F110 para el avión de combate Kaan turco, el del Hürjet, de momento, tiene luz verde
The article says that GE F404 is cleared for export to Turkey (while in other part of the article speaks about license production). Anyway the article is emphasizing that US Congress are obstructing the F110 to Turkey.
Day after day seems clear that US wants to withdraw a competitor to their F35. So I think Turkey would do better if they directly develop their own low by pass high thrust turbofan and just purchase a chinese engine for their first batch.
US will do the same they did with the T129 to Pakistan and Morocco.
AZ_HighCountry
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Sure.
zzw001
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As Turkish posters like to remind us constantly on this forum - They can easily mass produce F110s with Turkish suppliers as they have built every part of the F110 (including the most technically complex hot section) without having to import even precursors or parts from outside. I don't think they need alternative engines from China (or Russia for that matter).Today, semi-official spanish military news site published an article about the export F110 issue between US and Turkey.
Estados Unidos sigue sin aprobar la exportación del motor F110 para el avión de combate Kaan turco, el del Hürjet, de momento, tiene luz verde
Estados Unidos sigue sin aprobar la exportación del motor F110 para el avión de combate Kaan turco, el del Hürjet, de momento, tiene luz verde
The article says that GE F404 is cleared for export to Turkey (while in other part of the article speaks about license production). Anyway the article is emphasizing that US Congress are obstructing the F110 to Turkey.
Day after day seems clear that US wants to withdraw a competitor to their F35. So I think Turkey would do better if they directly develop their own low by pass high thrust turbofan and just purchase a chinese engine for their first batch.
US will do the same they did with the T129 to Pakistan and Morocco.
Turkey was only being magnanimous when they wanted to pay GE for F110s. They could have easily produced F110s without GE or America but now that USA is blocking F110 exports, Turkey should just build Turkish F110s for the KAAN without relying on USA / GE.
MH.Yang
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The Turkish members seriously underestimated the difficulty of developing high-thrust engines. Any explanation from you would be interpreted by them as denigration of Turkey, so is no need to say more.
MMM-E
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Turkiye develops better Engine than GE F110
and Türkiye has never had a military project fail.
It's a difficult technology, but thanks to Turkiye's 40 years of turbofan engine experience, TF-35.000 project will also be successful.
TEI's confident speech give us hope and motivation for the future of the Turkish Air Force and KAAN Project
also The UK and Italy joined Turkish UCAV - Unmanned stealth Fighter Jet projects another example showing the level Türkiye has reached in advanced technologies
and Türkiye has never had a military project fail.
It's a difficult technology, but thanks to Turkiye's 40 years of turbofan engine experience, TF-35.000 project will also be successful.
TEI's confident speech give us hope and motivation for the future of the Turkish Air Force and KAAN Project
also The UK and Italy joined Turkish UCAV - Unmanned stealth Fighter Jet projects another example showing the level Türkiye has reached in advanced technologies
MMM-E
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And Turkiye has developed TEI TS-1400 Turboshaft Engine in record time ( 2017-2023 ) ... TEI TS-1400 turboshaft Engine mass production will start in 2027 because process of obtaining civilian certification
Utility Helicopter with Turboshaft Engine Technology in the World
USA : S-70 Black Hawk ( General Electric T700-GE-701D )
UK : AW159 Wildcat - Rolls-Royce Turbomeca RTM322
France : EC-725 ( Turboméca ( SAFRAN ) Makila 2A1 )
Russia : MI-38 ( Klimov TV7-117V )
China : Z-18 ( WZ-6C )
Turkiye : T-625 Gökbey ( TEI TS-1400 )
TEI TS-1400 turboshaft Engine can power the T-629 Attack Helicopter as well
Again, you are a liar!
None of the members here, not any Chinese and also not me claimed that "KAAN can not fly before 2040"!!
@Waz why is this still allowed to post lie after lie, insult & offence after another and always propaganda?? His again and again posting of info on any Turkish engine - including turboshafts for helicopter - is off topic!
MMM-E
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With the amount of reports on this thread, I would appreciate if the exchange of views is done in a decent manner, I understand our Chinese brothers and Turkish brothers both are proud of their achievements (and they should be) but at the end of the day this is not a "rub it on your face" discussion, this is supposed to discuss "achievements"
just my 2 cents!
just my 2 cents!
Merzifonlu
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Fortunately, we won't have to wait long to see the answer to this. Right?
By the way, not all Turkish members of the forum see opposing arguments as insults. @MMM-E is in a different league.
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