AMCA vs KAAN vs KF-21 India Turkey & Korea’s Fighter Jets Battle For Air Supremacy—Who Leads The Pack? OP-ED

[MH.Yang]

Russia did it on SU-57
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Turkiye will be the 2nd country with DIRCM on KAAN
and we needs powerful generators

Comparison of generator powers of some Fighter Jets

▪︎ KAAN: 2x125Kw .... 250 kw (developed by Turkish company VOLT )
▪︎ F35: 3x80Kw .... 240 kw
▪︎ F22: 2x65Kw ... 130 kw
▪︎ KF-21: 2x65Kw .. 130 kw ... (Collins aerospace from USA)

what about the J-20 ?

I have already said that China only installs DIRCM in large aircraft. Before DIRCM achieves miniaturization and integration, it will not be installed on 5G and 6G fighter jets.

Don't you wonder why only Russia, which has the worst technology, installs DIRCM on 5G fighter jets? Why don't China and the United States do this?

 

[MMM-E]

(I guess you're referring to HMDS, not the HUD that was popular more than a decade ago). This should be easily obtainable intelligence, right?

Only F-35 and KAAN ( MMU ) dont use a HUD
but the next gen HMDS
there’s no HUD as its all integrated into the Helmet. The technology of the Helmet is great



KAAN is coming with AI-enhanced 360° situational awareness ( 4 AESA Radars , IRST and EOTS ) Sensor Fusion

This is really impressive and also the best example of powerful sensors working in tandem with 5th gen Sensor Fusion

The KF-21 does not have this capability ( 360° situational awareness )

 

[Merzifonlu]

So you're skipping one major critical safety step (testbed testing) for getting the engine much earlier than anticipated? and will Installed Un-matured and unfinished engine on KAAN for testing then I would like to say good luck to you for testing un-matured/unfinished engine on KAAN

Yes, it will be exactly as you say. The TF35000 engines, downgraded to F110 levels, will fly in Kaan Block 10s, while the other engines will be tested in KE drones or civilian jets. Of course, this is what will happen if the F110 procurement doesn't materialize. If the F110 procurement is realized, there will be no need to take this risk.

 

[MH.Yang]

Only F-35 and KAAN ( MMU ) dont use a HUD
but the next gen HMDS
there’s no HUD as its all integrated into the Helmet. The technology of the Helmet is great
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KAAN is coming with AI-enhanced 360° situational awareness ( 4 AESA Radars , IRST and EOTS ) Sensor Fusion

This is really impressive and also the best example of powerful sensors working in tandem with 5th gen Sensor Fusion

The KF-21 does not have this capability ( 360° situational awareness )

Are you referring to the AN/AAQ-37 distributed optical aperture system of the F-35?

It can indeed achieve a virtual panoramic cockpit for the F-35 through HMDS.

I just mentioned that the J-20 also has a virtual panoramic cockpit system implemented through HMDS. You can easily find six similar optical windows on the J-20.

Currently only the J-20 and F-35 have this kind of panoramic cockpit capability in their HMDS. I would be surprised if KAAN had this technology.

I first learned that KAAN has panoramic cockpit capability. Do you have a reliable source of information?

 

[MMM-E]

Are you referring to the AN/AAQ-37 distributed optical aperture system of the F-35?

4 AESA Radars for 360° situational awareness ( superior situational awareness )

F-22 : 1 AESA Radar
F-35 : 1 AESA Radar
KF-21 : 1 AESA Radar
J-20 : 1 AESA Radar
J-35 : 1 AESA Radar

KAAN : 4 AESA Radars
SU-57 : 4 AESA Radars

 

[MH.Yang]

4 AESA Radars for 360° situational awareness ( superior situational awareness )

F-22 : 1 AESA Radar
F-35 : 1 AESA Radar
KF-21 : 1 AESA Radar
J-20 : 1 AESA Radar
J-35 : 1 AESA Radar

KAAN : 4 AESA Radars
SU-57 : 4 AESA Radars

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Correct your mistake. Firstly, Su-57 is not four AESAs, but five.

Secondly, all the fighter jets you mentioned do not only have one AESA. For example, J-20, It has a nose main fire control AESA, EODAS is AESA, and side view AESA.

As for KAAN, I am not familiar with it. Just like the panoramic cockpit HMDS, you can say whatever you want, you don't need to provide a source of information anyway.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

4 AESA Radars for 360° situational awareness ( superior situational awareness )

F-22 : 1 AESA Radar
F-35 : 1 AESA Radar
KF-21 : 1 AESA Radar
J-20 : 1 AESA Radar
J-35 : 1 AESA Radar

KAAN : 4 AESA Radars
SU-57 : 4 AESA Radars

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And what special about having 4 AESA on KAAN? Only one have for detection/tracking and engaging capabilities and rest of AESAs are on KAAN and on su57 are ECM/ECCM/ESM AND FOR EW purpose only

 

[MMM-E]

Correct your mistake. Firstly, Su-57 is not four AESAs, but five.

X Band
1 -- N036 - forward looking
2 -- N036B - side looking
3 -- N036Kh - rear looking

L Band
4 -- N036L in wing's leading edge


F-22 , F-35 , KF-21 , J-20 lack 360° situational awareness by AESA Radars

As for KAAN, I am not familiar with it. Just like the panoramic cockpit HMDS, you can say whatever you want, you don't need to provide a source of information anyway.

The panoramic cockpit HMDS ?

KAAN has the panoramic cockpit HMDS but maybe not for 360 degree see

No detailed information was given about how many cameras will be in KAAN.


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Turkiye focused on BVR combat with powerful AESA Radar and long range BVR Missiles

AESA Radar

F-22 = AN/APG-77 AESA Radar detect 1m2 RCS target from 200 km
F-35 =AN/APG-81 AESA Radar detect 1m2 RCS target from 160 km

Turkish MURAD-600A AESA Radar to detect 1 m2 RCS target from 200 km away that will be enough to use 200+ km GOKHAN ramjet powered air to air missiles effectively



RAFALE's RBE2 AA AESA Radar has 838 T/R modules built on GaAs

F-35's AN/APG-81 AESA Radar has 1.626 T/R modules built on GaAs

F-22's APG-77 AESA Radar has 1.956 T/R modules built on GaAs

KAAN's MURAD-600A AESA Radar has 2.000+ T/R modules built on GaN

 

[MH.Yang]

X Band
1 -- N036 - forward looking
2 -- N036B - side looking
3 -- N036Kh - rear looking

L Band
4 -- N036L in wing's leading edge

The five AESAs of Su-57 are:
N036-1-01 at the nose, N036B-1-01 on each side of the intake duct, and N036L-1-01 at the leading edge of each wing (L-band).

The Su-57 does not have an independent dedicated rear view AESA like the side radar.

The Su-57 mainly covers the rear through N036B-1-01 on both sides, and it also has a 101KS-O backward infrared missile approach warning system specifically designed for backward defense.

You got one thing right. The Su-57 indeed possesses a 360 degree battlefield situational awareness capability that other 5G fighter jets do not have.

I suggest you don't discuss Su-57 anymore. Su-57 is different from KAAN. There are too many people who know about it, so it's not suitable for you.

 

[MH.Yang]

RAFALE's RBE2 AA AESA Radar has 838 T/R modules built on GaAs

GaN, not GaAs.

btw:
GaN is already very common, you can learn about China KJ-3000's Ga2O3 AESA. The following picture shows the common GaN AESA in rural areas of China, which Chinese farmers use to catch wild boars.

 

[MMM-E]

GaN, not GaAs.

btw:

Not GaN but GaAS

RBE2

The RBE2 (Radar à Balayage Electronique 2 plans) is a multirole radar developed during the 1990s for the French Dassault Rafale combat aircraft. While the RBE2 uses a passive electronically scanned array (PESA) the RBE2-AA radar system is an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar...

military-history.fandom.com

 

[MH.Yang]

Not GaN but GaAS

RBE2

The RBE2 (Radar à Balayage Electronique 2 plans) is a multirole radar developed during the 1990s for the French Dassault Rafale combat aircraft. While the RBE2 uses a passive electronically scanned array (PESA) the RBE2-AA radar system is an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar...

military-history.fandom.com

New Rafale's RBE2-AA is GaN.

Only early Rafale was GaAs. F4 in France, Rafale in the UAE and Croatia are all GaN.

 

[MMM-E]

New Rafale's RBE2-AA is GaN.

Only early Rafale was GaAs. F4 in France, Rafale in the United Arab Emirates, and Croatia are all GaN.

Most of French Air Force , Indian , Egyptian , Greek RAFALES have GaAS
Yes , only new RAFALE F-4 has GaN

F-35's AN/APG-81 AESA Radar has 1.626 T/R modules built on GaAs
New AN/APG-85 AESA Radar has GaN T/R modules


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Airborne AESA Radars in NATO

AN/APG-77 / AN/APG-79 / AN/APG-81 / AN/APG-83 / AN/APG-85 .... USA

CAPTOR-E .... consortium ( The UK ,Germany , Italy , Spain ) ... Eurofighter
RBE2 AA ... France .... Rafale
RAVEN ES-05 ... Italy .... JAS GRİPEN
MURAD-100A ... Turkiye .... F-16 , AKINCI , HURJET , KIZILELMA and ANKA-3

Also MURAD-600A ... Turkiye ... under development for the KAAN Fighter Jet

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Most of French Air Force , Indian , Egyptian , Greek RAFALES have GaAS
Yes , only new RAFALE F-4 has GaN

F-35's AN/APG-81 AESA Radar has 1.626 T/R modules built on GaAs
New AN/APG-85 AESA Radar has GaN T/R modules


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Airborne AESA Radars in NATO

AN/APG-77 / AN/APG-79 / AN/APG-81 / AN/APG-83 / AN/APG-85 .... USA

CAPTOR-E .... consortium ( The UK ,Germany , Italy , Spain ) ... Eurofighter
RBE2 AA ... France .... Rafale
RAVEN ES-05 ... Italy .... JAS GRİPEN
MURAD-100A ... Turkiye .... F-16 , AKINCI , HURJET , KIZILELMA and ANKA-3

Also MURAD-600A ... Turkiye ... under development for the KAAN Fighter Jet

Ok you're superpower in all military fields all the previous AESAs are crap and junk compared to MURAD AESAs fitted on your F-16 and will be fitting on KAAN now happy now shoo, get a life kid

 

[MMM-E]

KAAN Test Pilot Gökhan Bayramoğlu

We are pursuing an Aircraft that can dominate the entire air . Our aim is to introduce a new concept.

We always say that this will be a weapon, not a Fighter Jet
We will be able to use this weapon as a command and control center. This is the point we want to reach


4 KAAN will control 5 teams with 23 F-16V , KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 at the same time

Hostile Forces can not match with this tactical air combat doctrine


India lack these technologies
S.Korea also lack these technologies

Europe failed unmanned stealth Fighter Jet projects
Russia develops some platforms .. but still mock up
China showed some mock up platforms in military parade

only USA , Turkiye and China

192 of 195 Countries can not keep up with the new era

Now do you understand the tremendous technological level that Turkiye has reached ?