An Indian Tejas fighter jet crashed during an aerial display at the Dubai Air Show

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Baibers_1260 said:
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Why can't Pakistanis stay neutral? We don't need to celebrate or show regret,
To those expressing sorrow on death of the Indian pilot in the Tejas crash in Dubai a reminder of how our enemy celebrate when our people die in air disasters is necessary.

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As i said I completely understand where your coming from. And what you share further validates it. A discussion debating between good and better should not be one that criticizes either response. Its about encouraging the better one. Doesn't make the other one fundamentally wrong.

As uncle Nietzsche would say ""He who fights with monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."
 
FuturePAF said:
Not sure if shared already, but these are very good and clear video of the incident:

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I suspect, even if there is fault found with the jet, the inquiry will blame the pilot to not risk the prospects for the jet.
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Having looked closely at both clips, and watching him keeping his left arm up because he felt comfortable doing that, and I see him lowering his left arm for hand-on-throttle (you can see that if you observe closely), I think it was not his fault and he was fully aware - in control. I'm beginning to think it could be the FBW. You can see he tried to save the plane but the plane didn't respond well. I think the only mistake he made was to not react fast enough to eject. Just my opinion at 3:50am.
 
Khanivore said:
Having looked closely at both clips, and watching him keeping his left arm up because he felt comfortable doing that, and I see him lowering his left arm for hand-on-throttle (you can see that if you observe closely), I think it was not his fault and he was fully aware - in control. I'm beginning to think it could be the FBW. You can see he tried to save the plane but the plane didn't respond well. I think the only mistake he made was to not react fast enough to eject. Just my opinion at 3:50am.
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I think he partially lost conciousness and that explains his hand going up and that is why his roll was slow as he was still recovering from his partial blackout
 
Meengla said:
Good post.
I believe, after watching cautious Pakistani analysts, that Pakistan is several years ahead of India in the fighter jets game and that India's deep pockets are not going to help India against Pakistan into the foreseeable future. And more pertinent to this thread: The crash of the Tejas is not going to help India sell it to eager buyers overseas, to say the least. This crash, when seen in the backdrop of the India-Pakistan conflict of May 2025 and subsequent narrative/events, is a huge disaster for India.
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If it were due to manufacturing errors it would imply Bharat is yet to master aerospace engineering. It may be due to their work ethics and culture itself. And, folks can't change their Fitret overnight. If it were so, no student would've failed, or no marriage would've ended up in a divorce court, or no soul would've perished in hell....
 
Dalit said:
No one cares about your crying and sobbing for your Indian friends. If you love the Indians so much go to an Afghan or an Indian forum. People are sick and tired of gullible good Samaritans.
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keep your thinking to yourself. don't impose it on others, being ignorant like you.

I wonder how you earn those points, by this bickering? you can't argue, hence bringing old tactics.

No wonder i miss the old forum and Pakdef. i better ignore you.
 
MMM-E said:
The rudder in the tonnage seems to have made a momentary error, causing a sudden loss of altitude of about 2 or 3 meters, a very fatal malfunction in a tonnage at that altitude. Turkish Pilot was saved by his piloting skills.



Its SOLOTURK ... No Panic

Turkish F-16 SOLOTURK and British Spotters ..... ( just 1 meter above )
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The crazy Turks!!!
 
Please see these screenshots from Video 1 (top). Notice the Engine.

First manouver we can clearly see the after burner, but cant on second attemt before crash.
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Smoke, Failed attempt.
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Engine Dark just before hitting the ground/
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experts with better footage can try and look into this too.

You can see in Video 2 as well, Dark dead engine,, no glow, nothing....
 
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UndercoverJIX said:
Please see these screenshots from Video 1 (top). Notice the Engine.

First manouver we can clearly see the after burner, but cant on second attemt before crash.
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Smoke, Failed attempt.
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Engine Dark just before hitting the ground/
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experts with better footage can try and look into this too.

You can see in Video 2 as well, Dark dead engine,, no glow, nothing....
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And unspent fuel which injector keep pushing into engine but no flame.
 
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Maarkhoor said:
And unspent fuel which injector keep pushing into engine but now flames.
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Plug mae kachra aa gaya tha, is liyay spark nai bana, Spark nahi ho ga to Fuel ko aag nahi lagay gi, aur agar fuel ko aag na lagi to jahaz aag ki talash mae kuch bhi kar sakta hai.....
Just kidding.

How is your Brigadier General, One Start friend doing after his promotion? Kaam kiya kartay hain Gen Sab?
 
KingQamaR said:
You honestly think your Indian bots would be chivalrous to a PAF jet going down ?
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They still bring up wg cdr noumans crash and deride the f-16 on it despite it being the only f-16 loss in the last 20 years of service with the paf which is impressive enough
 
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