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Pakistani citizens who were protesting. They might be dumb but they were normal folks. Don't forget you are on a Pakistani forum. Dont disrespect them by calling them "5th coloumn".
Not all innocents. At least one came armed with a weapon and was the first to shoot. Likely an Irani or Israili sleeper agent but still. This was the instigating incident and likely his intention was for both the consulate and protestors to suffer.


 
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Let me flip the question to the others on this thread. Will you explicility critcize the attacks on civilians in the GCC countries by Iran?
My friend, I will come back to your post later, but kindly safe your time discussing the Iranian regime with Iranian regime fanboys. The slaughter of 100.000s of Muslims, Arabs etc. across the Muslim world and region on their behalf, let alone Iranians within Iran, did not change any of their opinions - so why would a few dead South Asian migrants and local Arabs in the GCC change anything in this regard?

Not all innocents. At least one came armed with a weapon and was the first to shoot. Likely an Irani or Israili sleeper agent but still. This was the instigating incident and likely his intention was for both the consulate and protestors to suffer.


Cultists are always blind to the faults of the cult that they worship. They can never do anything wrong. Hence the apt description of them being cults. Islam is innocent of this and should not even be included in what we are discussing. Even less so knowing the ground realities of Iran and Iranians in this regard. Which this Persian Sunni Muslim brother has described in great detail for almost 20 years now.

 
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My friend, I will come back to your post later, but kindly safe your time discussing the Iranian regime with Iranian regime fanboys. The slaughter of 100.000s of Muslims, Arabs etc. across the Muslim world and region on their behalf, let alone Iranians within Iran, did not change any of their opinions - so why would a few dead South Asian migrants and local Arabs in the GCC change anything in this regard?

I would like to believe there is good in everyone. In fact I know for a fact there is much good. They have reasons to be hurt. Their relatives, their homes are also under siege by the Zionists. That should pain us as well. Conversation allows us to see each other as humans. Once the pain and anger is vented through words of hatred, I have found most people begin realizing the person on the other side is also a human.
 
I would like to believe there is good in everyone. In fact I know for a fact there is much good. They have reasons to be hurt. Their relatives, their homes are also under siege by the Zionists. That should pain us as well. Conversation allows us to see each other as humans. Once the pain and anger is vented through words of hatred, I have found most people begin realizing the person on the other side is also a human.
Sorry, I have zero sympathy for the Iranian regime, its leadership and its local and foreign followers. My sympathy is exclusively for the Muslims of Iran and for any innocent civilians. However that courtesy the anti-Muslim and anti-Arab majoosi cult members never gave to any of their many victims in the region. The same lot is now also rejoicing at the thought of Arabs dying and Arab countries being harmed. They are our enemies, always have been and always will be and we should help ensure that their 47 year old Wilayat al-Faqih cult will belong to the dustbin of history permanently much like their former ally - the Al-Assad regime was thrown to the dustbin of history back in December 2024. In my view anyone helping in this regard has my temporary support -at least in this endeavor. Because as you can see - the region has had enough of the fitnah for almost 50 + years. I suggest that anyone of the resident Iranian regime fanboys should go to Iran and fight besides their beloved regime and cult if they have any honor and are men and spare their nonsense - at least from this thread. None of the few Arabs here on PDF like or support the cult regime. Same goes for the majority of the Arabs and Muslims. The only reason some people support them - as I wrote, is due to bigger hatred for the Zionists and the US which are not our friends either - I have always stated this - which is why I always wrote that those clowns would be killing each other on the moon in a perfect world and leave us and the region alone.
 
They are getting severely pounded constantly.

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Alhamdulillah.

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Iraqi fifth columns, traitors and terrorist cult militias helping actively destroy their own country and people:

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Suspension of Pumping and Storage at the Rumaila Oil Field in Basra Governorate Following the Closure of the Strait of Hormuz. The expected losses for Iraq are estimated at approximately $300 million per day. And in the event that the situation continues for several months, the process of paying employees' salaries may become nearly impossible.
 
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Words are not needed.

I have not seen anything remotely close to this anywhere in the world. It seems that a minority, overall a small one, I will not paint all of them with the same brush that would be unfair and incorrect, of them always have divided loyalties and whenever they can they will act like fifth columns using taqiyya as cover. When confronted with this reality - they always deny and downplay it. However the reality is that if there were not such gullible cult members and misguided people - we would not have those terrorist cult militias in Southern Lebanon (Hezbollah), Iraq, Yemen (Houthis). Similarly in the non-Arab countries.

The question is - why do no other Muslim community have this disease among us?

Once again, those are undeniable facts and ground realities. We see it in front of our very eyes judging by events in just Northern Yemen, Southern Iraq, Karachi in Pakistan, Southern Lebanon etc. From the first day I noticed this ground reality - I was fiercely attacked by the cultists for stating the truth (as usual). However to date - like with any ground realities that you show to them - I have never been met with any counter arguments.

This is not about doctrinal differences or political disagreements. This is about something as fundamental as loyalty to your own people and land. You can be a Shia, Atheist, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, Agnostic, as long as you do not bother others, Islam does not believe in forceful conversion - only in sincere belief from the heart, but we cannot and will not accept fifth columns and terrorist proxies acting on behalf of foreign hostile regimes to hurt the cohesion of our lands and people. We are not asking for much or anything extraordinary.

As written earlier, this would explain the RSAF apparently targeting Iraqi terrorist cult militias in Southern Iraq next door last night.

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Revolutionary Guard sites struck in the city of Baneh in Iran’s Kurdistan region

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Violent shelling on west Tehran

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Devastating bombing on the Iranian police's logistical support center in Tehran

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URGENT | Targeting and destruction of the headquarters of the Assembly of Experts, the constitutional body authorized to select and oversee the Supreme Leader, in the city of Qom.

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Violent and relentless shelling on eastern Tehran
 
It would be poetic justice if the region's biggest opportunistic meddler and provider and supporter of proxy groups would end up becoming balkanized itself.

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Which there is amble opportunity to do, given how ethnically diverse Iran is and how much oppression numerous ethnic minorities have been under for decades, even during the Pahlavi regime. Large parts of Iran are inhabited almost fully by Baloch, Kurds, Arabs, Turkmen etc. All with active and long-held militant resistance groups and well-established political parties. Most based abroad.

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And many of their numbers are deliberately underreported. For instance there are many more Arabs in Iran than just the 2 million that is "officially" being reported. Arabs, Baloch, Kurds etc. also have the by far highest fertility rates while the Persians and Azeris are decreasing in numbers due to their very low fertility rates. There are many more Sunni Muslims within Iran as well for this very reason. Mullah's have for decades raised this topic of concern (for them) publicly. See the many detailed writings of: https://x.com/EbnHussein1424

Once again zero sympathy from my part. The same satanic regime has for 47 years actively tried (mostly failed spectacularly) to balkanize Arab states and undermine state institutions and to create parallel entities, whether political or terrorist ones.

West Tehran:

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Building of the Iranian Intelligence Agency in the Jolfa area in Tehran

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Violent and unprecedented shelling on eastern Tehran

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Western Tehran is under heavy bombardment right now

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Devastating and unprecedented bombardment targeting bases affiliated with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard in the Kurdish town of Ashn, adjacent to the border of Iraq's Kurdistan Region.

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Iranian regime's headquarters are being heavily bombed in Tehran

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Violent shelling on Bushehr

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Shiraz witnesses intense and unprecedented shelling targeting Iranian regime's military and security facilities

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Targeting Revolutionary Guard military depots in the heart of Tehran.

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The regime continues to be pounded and humiliated for the world to see! We are witnessing its disintegration and a slow painful death.
 
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Words are not needed.

I have not seen anything remotely close to this anywhere in the world. It seems that a minority, overall a small one, I will not paint all of them with the same brush that would be unfair and incorrect, of them always have divided loyalties and whenever they can they will act like fifth columns using taqiyya as cover. When confronted with this reality - they always deny and downplay it. However the reality is that if there were not such gullible cult members and misguided people - we would not have those terrorist cult militias in Southern Lebanon (Hezbollah), Iraq, Yemen (Houthis). Similarly in the non-Arab countries.

The question is - why do no other Muslim community have this disease among us?

Once again, those are undeniable facts and ground realities. We see it in front of our very eyes judging by events in just Northern Yemen, Southern Iraq, Karachi in Pakistan, Southern Lebanon etc. From the first day I noticed this ground reality - I was fiercely attacked by the cultists for stating the truth (as usual). However to date - like with any ground realities that you show to them - I have never been met with any counter arguments.

This is not about doctrinal differences or political disagreements. This is about something as fundamental as loyalty to your own people and land. You can be a Shia, Atheist, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, Agnostic, as long as you do not bother others, Islam does not believe in forceful conversion - only in sincere belief from the heart, but we cannot and will not accept fifth columns and terrorist proxies acting on behalf of foreign hostile regimes to hurt the cohesion of our lands and people. We are not asking for much or anything extraordinary.

As written earlier, this would explain the RSAF apparently targeting Iraqi terrorist cult militias in Southern Iraq next door last night.

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Fair enough. As I said my interest is not the defence of regimes and those advocating the suffering of the innocent. Only the recognition that there are innocents on both sides. I would not blame either party in a state of war to celebrate military gains. Goodness knows I've celebrated Paksitans wins over India and Afghanistan.

Sadly though it seems like this fight is just getting started. What it seems to me is that the GCC is absorbing as much as it can for now.
 
What do you make of this, @_Arabia_ ?

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One of the reasons why you are a Muslim and not a Hindu.

And the only thing you majoosis will be able to do is to cry. Just like you are crying now when you are getting carpet bombed and humiliated for the entire world to see

your lots place is under our boots like it has always been and always will be

That is why when you visit Makkah and Madinah you behave like obeying puppies and never cross any lines

I have seen your likes meek behavior from up close personally on many occasions.

It is not name calling it is describing your reality, my Arabized and Arab-obsessed rat

Stop wasting my time, Arabized clown.

KSA has barely been hurt or scratched my Arabized Gypsy.

That is why you are cultists who are condemned to eternal hellfire and why you will always be humiliated in this life as well.

Indeed this is your cultists reality. A reality of permanent humiliation.

@Musings @Mr X @Waz

Why is it that on a Pakistani forum everyone is free to spit hate on Pakistan and Pakistanis, but only Pakistanis face punishment?

The language being used by this person is vile and disgusting. It's extreme racism and religious bigotry mixed with fascist supremacy.

Why is this acceptable without ramifications?
No warning, no ban. The replies by steepewolf have been deleted, but his vile language has not, and no warnings have been given. How does that make sense?
People get hung for far far less on this forum.

steepewolf is amongst the much much better members on his forum, I have enjoyed reading his thoughts over the years, a true patriot, you need more people like him, not less and this kind of behaviour towards him shouldn't be acceptable.
Yet, it is.

Everyone is free to spread hate and lies towards Pakistan, including Indians, even Iranians especially previously, every other nationality and now this, but if a Pakistani even tries to reply he's told to let it go, or some other excuse.
Otherwise, it's an outright warning.

Please explain how is the language used by this person acceptable? Otherwise give us a free hand. I know exactly what to say, no profanity, like for like replies.

Previously there was a guy called UAE or something similar, he always ran to moderators as soon as his panties got in a twist, now him. The more you tolerate bad behaviour towards Pakistan, the more it happens.

Then we wonder why are we always on the defensive. Because we allow it to happen.
I'm truly shocked.


Furthermore, this is not a thread for politics, people are given warnings or thread bans for posting in wrong threads.

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No politics.. just discussion of culture, daily life, , questions and answers, sports updates,, funny shows.. funny Arabic YouTube videos and classic Arabic things....a lot of great ideas ....
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This thread was created under these rules.
Have they or are they being followed?
No.
Why?
 
Since you have chosen to tag me and we have not interacted in a long time and I do not know any other Jews here, tell me where I am wrong according to you and what you want to see occur in the region?
I didn't comment about where-you-might-be-right-or-wrong. I tagged you because I'm interested in your opinion of the tweeted statement: one, whether you think it's genuine, and two, what your opinion is of the vision it presents for a future Iran.

As for the rest: the comments I can make on this forum are limited by the moderators. That's the water we swim in. A full and frank discussion between us would have to take place in another forum.
 
What do you make of this, @_Arabia_ ?

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Not sure what there is to comment about? It is not for me to decide who will rule in the future. In fact I do not even care if I am to be honest with you. I am not an Iranian.

All I am interested in is that a future Iran, whatever regime that might take power, will behave like a normal neighbor that we can have mutually beneficial ties with like we mostly have with ordinary Iranian people regardless of whether they are Iranian Arabs, Persians, Baloch, Azeris or whatever or mixtures - which most/many Iranians are.

We cannot escape geography and Eastern Arabia and Iraq will continue to border Iran unless that country will disintegrate (possible) and then we can talk when/if that occurs.

Same thing when it comes to the current Israeli regime. In an ideal world Israel would return to the 1967 borders or accept a one-state solution with equal rights for everyone. Rather than help create havoc in the region.

I don't need to mention to you that 20% of the Israeli population is Arab and that 2/3 of all Israeli Jews are Arab Jews or partial Arab Jews. I don't need to tell you about historical ties, whether ancient or more modern. Or religious, linguistic, cultural etc. similarities or even the food and music - most of which you guys have adopted from the Arab world.

I am not anti-Jew, unless we are talking about anti-Arab and anti-Muslim Zionists.

And likewise neither of us are going anywhere - Arabs by 2050 will number close to 800 million and I have no illusions (unlike other Arabs and Muslims) that a nuclear-armed Israel is going anywhere either. Therefore we have no other solution than to burry the hatchet and at least learn to live with each other peacefully and ideally benefit from each other.

And obviously like most Arabs and Muslims I believe that the ball is in the Israeli court as the stronger party and in many ways as the oppressor of the Palestinians that continues to deny their statehood or a one-state solution with equal rights.

Since you have chosen to tag me and we have not interacted in a long time and I do not know any other Jews here, tell me where I am wrong according to you and what you want to see occur in the region?

@Musings @Mr X @Waz

Why is it that on a Pakistani forum everyone is free to spit hate on Pakistan and Pakistanis, but only Pakistanis face punishment?

The language being used by this person is vile and disgusting. It's extreme racism and religious bigotry mixed with fascist supremacy.

Why is this acceptable without ramifications?
No warning, no ban. The replies by steepewolf have been deleted, but his vile language has not, and no warnings have been given. How does that make sense?
People get hung for far far less on this forum.

steepewolf is amongst the much much better members on his forum, I have enjoyed reading his thoughts over the years, a true patriot, you need more people like him, not less and this kind of behaviour towards him shouldn't be acceptable.
Yet, it is.

Everyone is free to spread hate and lies towards Pakistan, including Indians, even Iranians especially previously, every other nationality and now this, but if a Pakistani even tries to reply he's told to let it go, or some other excuse.
Otherwise, it's an outright warning.

Please explain how is the language used by this person acceptable? Otherwise give us a free hand. I know exactly what to say, no profanity, like for like replies.

Previously there was a guy called UAE or something similar, he always ran to moderators as soon as his panties got in a twist, now him. The more you tolerate bad behaviour towards Pakistan, the more it happens.

Then we wonder why are we always on the defensive. Because we allow it to happen.
I'm truly shocked.


Furthermore, this is not a thread for politics, people are given warnings or thread bans for posting in wrong threads.

""""
No politics.. just discussion of culture, daily life, , questions and answers, sports updates,, funny shows.. funny Arabic YouTube videos and classic Arabic things....a lot of great ideas ....
""""

This thread was created under these rules.
Have they or are they being followed?
No.
Why?
Why are you crying? Who started the insults and provocations? Not me. And speaking the truth is going to hurt people who are blind to it. Not my problem. Anyone that is rejoicing at Arabs and Muslims getting killed and attacked deserves my contempt and that of Arabs and Muslims.

And nice lies and quotations out of context. 99.99% of your quoted posts are aimed at terrorist militia cults and proxies in the Arab world not any Pakistani or Pakistan, troll. And yes, without Arabs what is today Pakistan would have remained majority Hindu or Buddhist. That is a historical fact. So stop making up lies. And the individual that you are in love with has insulted me personally on numerous occasions as well as demonstrated his contempt for KSA and 550 million Arabs. He is also the one that started writing troll posts and provocations in this thread. So I suggest you mind your own business rather than trying to do a character assassination - not that I care about the opinions of trolls.

If you want a discussion argue against any of the historical facts that I wrote or the ground realities that I have been describing. Since you are unable to do that - other than engaging in lying and twisting comments and posts that anyone can see have nothing to do with Pakistan or Pakistanis - you should, as I wrote, spare us and mind your own business. BTW, you are free to insult me, I do not care the least, and I am not running to any moderators. You are doing that. And your idea of me having some immunity could not be further from the truth, I have been unjustly banned/received warnings before when dealing with trolls.

I challenge you to find a single post of mind that is engaged in trolling for no reason or for the sake of it. Just a single post. I will answer my own question. You cannot.

EDIT: Lastly you also do not know what discussions users in this thread have had with moderation in regards to what this thread can be used for. It was decided yesterday or the day before that we could discuss events related to the Arab world by the moderators/admins. I suggested creating a separate thread for the conflict from an Arab perspective. It was silently decided that this thread would suffice.

Also one user that made unmoatived insults against Arabs in this thread - was thread banned but I asked the admin not to ban this individual. My post is still visible. Nor have I asked for the thread bans of anyone in this thread - even those users that have trolled.

You got some nerve, you really do in terms of twisting and lying. I have zero respect for instigators and liars.

EDIT: How about you visit the Iranian section and find 100's of posts of users insulting Arabs, Turks and other Muslims and Muslim-majority countries out of the blue despite no Arab or hardly any Turkish member participation. Oh, you are not interested in that of course, as you are probably a cult member and an Iranian regime cultist. And at a time when civilians in the GCC are being attacked unmotivated by the satanic Iranian regime, Pakistanis dying included, I have no time for trolls like you let alone the patience or energy. During Ramadan no less. As I wrote, if Jews/Israelis, Americans and Iranians want to kill each other off, they should do that somewhere else and leave Arabs/the region alone. Very simple. We did not start anything.
 
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Iran is in proces to be send to ancient times, this will not end good for everyone in the Middle East. After this a long very long civil war will start.
 

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