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In any case I have no problem with him supporting the Iranian regime, hating Arabs, all Arab regimes (his right) but at least the rules should be applied equally.
Sorry I’m actually passed this but for some odd reason I decided to actually read your post and you said to prove that you said I hated Arabs…..no hard feelings honestly I’m done with it so need to reply we good

It was not a statement of fact just examples mentioned of what you could do and me not having a problem with it personally. It was a post to a moderator urging the moderation team to apply rules similarly and fairly for all which I felt has not been the case always. See further explanation by reading my earlier posts in this thread. In any case this has been discussed and the hatched buried with 1 of the 3 administrators.

I always wrote from the very beginning that I do not have any hard feelings either. Rest of my remarks (which you chose not to reply to which is your right) I already wrote about in my latest post (post 536) to you.

 

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So much absurd nonsense is being posted online.

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@mythbuster have you noticed the huge amount of propaganda of pro-Iranian regime aligned users (ironically most based in the West) who are making up alternative "victories"?

The worst thing is that users (or bots) are eating it raw and showcase zero source criticism. Same thing is very common even on this little forum.

It almost seems as a coordinated campaign.

 

[mythbuster]

So much absurd nonsense is being posted online.

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@mythbuster have you noticed the huge amount of propaganda of pro-Iranian regime aligned users (ironically most based in the West) who are making up alternative "victories"?

The worst thing is that users (or bots) are eating it raw and showcase zero source criticism. Same thing is very common even on this little forum.

It almost seems as a coordinated campaign.

It's human nature to give a leg up to an underdog who's down even if the underdog is nasty

 

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It's human nature to give a leg up to an underdog who's down even if the underdog is nasty

I guess you are right. However, that does not make it any less annoying.

Similarly, with the supposed "breaking of the siege" on Yemen by allowing the Houthi delegation to fly to Tehran. It was allowed and coordinated with Saudi Arabia because the RSAF practically controls Yemen's airspace.

Or that KSA's delegation was not invited (best one so far ). They just showed up without any additional security and teleported themselves to Tehran no less.

The lengths people from our region go to in order to save face are incredible at times.

 

[mythbuster]

I guess you are right. However, that does not make it any less annoying.

Similarly, with the supposed "breaking of the siege" on Yemen by allowing the Houthi delegation to fly to Tehran. It was allowed and coordinated with Saudi Arabia because the RSAF practically controls Yemen's airspace.

Or that KSA's delegation was not invited (best one so far ).

The lengths people from our region go to in order to save face are incredible at times.

Face saving is only way out of utter humiliation.... enjoy the spins as if you are watching twilight zone... Yemeni spin is hilarious

 

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Face saving is only way out of utter humiliation.... enjoy the spins as if you are watching twilight zone... Yemeni spin is hilarious

Best one, as I wrote, was the "the KSA delegation (not high-ranking to begin with) was not invited at all (in some alternative universe). In fact they teleported themselves to Tehran. No security. No coordination or anything.

I forgot the best one so far, "Arabs" are going to pay us 300 billion USD. The ground reality = not a single cent and what you received was YOUR OWN confiscated money (oil profits) stored in Arab banks in Qatar and UAE. Now part of that has been released to you (apparently) under the condition that you would not be disrupting the Strait of Hormuz (something that even the smallest GCC country can do as well).

Don't get me started on the Bab el-Mandeb strait which is not even controlled by the Houthis to begin with but by the KSA-aligned internationally recognized Yemeni government.



Once again, even Eritrea could disrupt commercial shipping in the Red Sea. Somalian pirates (FFS) used to disrupt the Gulf of Aden for years at one point in time.

There are some very "special" PDF users here who are propagandizing such propaganda (not sure if they are really believing it themselves), almost all of them based in the West. All to save face.

Also that whole ceremony seems like a joke. How "over the top" can you make it? It is as if some deity, not an old random cleric (not even a Grand Ayatollah among the Twelvers - nor even a Marja), had died. Compare it to how the Saudi Arabian kings are buried and their simple unmarked graves.

It seems like that lot has taken a political figure and made him into a deity.

Also a proper Islamic burial should occur as quickly as possible. Seems like they have their own rules and practices but we have had 100's of confirmation of that already so I will leave it at this not to cause "controversy" here for those with very limited Islamic knowledge.

Best thing is the "he fought for Palestine". As if Iran ever fired a single drone or missile at Israel unless themsleves carpet bombed by Israel FIRST. Where were their drones and missiles when the genocide in Gaza took place? Or since 1948?

People are really stupid and gullible.

 

[mythbuster]

Best one, as I wrote, was the "the KSA delegation (not high-ranking to begin with) was not invited at all (in some alternative universe). In fact they teleported themselves to Tehran. No security. No coordination or anything.

I forgot the best one so far, "Arabs" are going to pay us 300 billion USD. The ground reality = not a single cent and what you received was YOUR OWN confiscated money (oil profits) stored in Arab banks in Qatar and UAE. Now part of that has been released to you (apparently) under the condition that you would not be disrupting the Strait of Hormuz (something that even the smallest GCC country can do as well).

Don't get me started on the Bab el-Mandeb strait which is not even controlled by the Houthis to begin with but by the KSA-aligned internationally recognized Yemeni government.

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Once again, even Eritrea could disrupt commercial shipping in the Red Sea. Somalian pirates (FFS) used to disrupt the Gulf of Aden for years at one point in time.

There are some very "special" PDF users here who are propagandizing such propaganda (not sure if they are really believing it themselves), almost all of them based in the West. All to save face.

Also that whole ceremony seems like a joke. How "over the top" can you make it? It is as if some deity, not an old random cleric (not even a Grand Ayatollah among the Twelvers - nor even a Marja), had died. Compare it to how the Saudi Arabian kings are buried and their simple unmarked graves.

It seems like that lot has taken a political figure and made him into a deity.

Also a proper Islamic burial should occur as quickly as possible. Seems like they have their own rules and practices but we have had 100's of confirmation of that already so I will leave it at this not to cause "controversy" here for those with very limited Islamic knowledge.

Best thing is the "he fought for Palestine". As if Iran ever fired a single drone or missile at Israel unless themsleves carpet bombed by Israel FIRST. Where were their drones and missiles when the genocide in Gaza took place? Or since 1948?

People are really stupid and gullible.

Let's hope Iranian have learnt their lesson and will opt for peaceful coexistence.... bravado aside , deep down they know now where they stand in hierarchy of nations .

 

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Let's hope Iranian have learnt their lesson and will opt for peaceful coexistence.... bravado aside , deep down they know now where they stand in hierarchy of nations .

Well, "we" have been hoping for that ever since 1979. Not sure even a largely annihilated/decapitated leadership will change this unless we see serious reform or a new regime emerge sometime in the future.

In any case their regional "games" have largely ended and good riddance to that, I say.

 

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More evidence and destruction of cheap desperate propaganda:

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[Solomon2]

...I must go further back than 2014, because the deepest death of history I know was not the work of the caliphate. It was accomplished decades earlier, and it concerns the Jews.

I grew up in a city where the word Jew survived mainly as an insult—a word attached to no face, no neighbor, no name. Mosul’s Jewish community was more than two and a half millennia old. It was driven out between 1948 and 1951, and then removed a second time, from memory itself, by decades of state policy and enforced silence. My teachers did not mention it. The textbooks did not mention it. When I began asking, as a student, about Mahallat al-Yahud—the Jewish quarter, whose name persisted in the mouths of the old while its meaning was withheld from the young—I was refused an answer. This is the death of history: not a viral clip, nor a streamer smirking at Piers Morgan, but a silence so complete that a generation cannot name a third of its own city.

I have spent years trying to reverse that silence. As a senior consultant to the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) from 2018 to 2023, I led heritage and oral history projects across Iraq, including the oral history of the Mosuli Jewish community—recorded with the late Meira Yona in the Judeo-Arabic dialect of Mosul, a language of my city that was about to leave the earth, captured before its last speakers were gone. A handwritten binder holding roughly 3,000 names of Mosuli Jews is currently being prepared for the archive. When I hold it, I hold the census of an erasure, reversed.

And in the middle of the war, I found -

Article by Omar Mohammed continues here.
Omar Muhammed is the author of Mosul Eye: A Scholar's Clandestine War Against ISIS

Omar Mohammed, Mosul’s local historian known as Mosul Eye, Dec. 5, 2017. link

 

[_Arabia_]

...I must go further back than 2014, because the deepest death of history I know was not the work of the caliphate. It was accomplished decades earlier, and it concerns the Jews.

I grew up in a city where the word Jew survived mainly as an insult—a word attached to no face, no neighbor, no name. Mosul’s Jewish community was more than two and a half millennia old. It was driven out between 1948 and 1951, and then removed a second time, from memory itself, by decades of state policy and enforced silence. My teachers did not mention it. The textbooks did not mention it. When I began asking, as a student, about Mahallat al-Yahud—the Jewish quarter, whose name persisted in the mouths of the old while its meaning was withheld from the young—I was refused an answer. This is the death of history: not a viral clip, nor a streamer smirking at Piers Morgan, but a silence so complete that a generation cannot name a third of its own city.

I have spent years trying to reverse that silence. As a senior consultant to the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) from 2018 to 2023, I led heritage and oral history projects across Iraq, including the oral history of the Mosuli Jewish community—recorded with the late Meira Yona in the Judeo-Arabic dialect of Mosul, a language of my city that was about to leave the earth, captured before its last speakers were gone. A handwritten binder holding roughly 3,000 names of Mosuli Jews is currently being prepared for the archive. When I hold it, I hold the census of an erasure, reversed.

And in the middle of the war, I found -

Article by Omar Mohammed continues here.
Omar Muhammed is the author of Mosul Eye: A Scholar's Clandestine War Against ISIS

Omar Mohammed, Mosul’s local historian known as Mosul Eye, Dec. 5, 2017. link

What is this obsession about Jews? Are you a Jew yourself? You do realize that 2/3 of all Jews are Arab Jews? They are Arabs who happen to follow a fellow Semitic religion (Judaism). Now most of them are Israeli citizens (along with 20-25% of all Israelis who are Arab - Muslim, Christians and Druze).

Nobody in KSA or the Arab world cares about Jews because 1), we lived mostly in peace with Jewish communities (local and foreign alike) for 3000 + years - Jews historically thrived the most in the Arab world, 2) nowadays nobody has hardly ever met a single Jew in their life.

The main problem has always been and likely always will be (unless Israel changes) Israeli regime policies towards Palestinians and the continued denial of a Palestinian statehood. What occurred in 1948 (and previously) occurred and time cannot be turned back, but Israel and Israeli Jews, if they want a different relationship with the Arab world and Arabs (that they are surrounded by within Israel itself and Palestine and the neighborhood) have to realize that harsh way - that there is no escaping from their reality and that they have to do what is right and that the current status quo cannot continue.