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Of course learned people like myself (not self-praise - just a fact) have been repeating this always and none of those historical facts can be argued against. Which is why it is always hilarious to see an Iranian (regardless of ethnic origin) claim to be "superior" or other such nonsense when they are not even in the same league and when it is evidently clear for everyone who studies history (pre-Islamic and Islamic) that Arabs and Semitic people influenced Iran and Iranians on an untold magnitude greater than the other way around. On every imaginable level. Influences that are living and continue to this very day in almost every field as well.
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Of course learned people like myself (not self-praise - just a fact) have been repeating this always and none of those historical facts can be argued against. Which is why it is always hilarious to see an Iranian (regardless of ethnic origin) claim to be "superior" or other such nonsense when they are not even in the same league and when it is evidently clear for everyone who studies history (pre-Islamic and Islamic) that Arabs and Semitic people influenced Iran and Iranians on an untold magnitude greater than the other way around. On every imaginable level. Influences that are living and continue to this very day in almost every field as well.
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Christianity is an Arab/Jewish/Semitic religion - nothing to do with the West/Europe that now claims it. Hence why most of its earliest Popes, scholars, Biblical figures etc. were Arab or Jewish. Same with the oldest Christian communities and churches etc.
For instance the House of Saud (who have been ruling areas of Najd since 300 + years ago and who unified KSA) are a part of the ancient Banu Hanifa tribe who was mostly Christian before Islam.
en.wikipedia.org
A reminder that most of the most famous Jewish rulers were actually Arabs - Herod the Great a good example of this.
Or the fact that 2/3 of all his fellow Israeli Jews are Arab Jews and 20-25% of all Israelis Arab Israelis (Palestinian Arabs - Negev Bedouins included).
Not so tiny (actually the first Muslim community in the UK were Arab Yemenis) actually and among the wealthiest communities in the UK with Arabs in the UK owning some of the most desired and wealthy real estate in London and elsewhere.
355.000 and among them some very highly succesfull people in all walks of life.
en.wikipedia.org
Christianity is an Arab/Jewish/Semitic religion - nothing to do with the West/Europe that now claims it. Hence why most of its earliest Popes, scholars, Biblical figures etc. were Arab or Jewish. Same with the oldest Christian communities and churches etc.
For instance the House of Saud (who have been ruling areas of Najd since 300 + years ago and who unified KSA) are a part of the ancient Banu Hanifa tribe who was mostly Christian before Islam.
Banu Hanifa - Wikipedia
A reminder that most of the most famous Jewish rulers were actually Arabs - Herod the Great a good example of this.
Or the fact that 2/3 of all his fellow Israeli Jews are Arab Jews and 20-25% of all Israelis Arab Israelis (Palestinian Arabs - Negev Bedouins included).
Not so tiny (actually the first Muslim community in the UK were Arab Yemenis) actually and among the wealthiest communities in the UK with Arabs in the UK owning some of the most desired and wealthy real estate in London and elsewhere.
355.000 and among them some very highly succesfull people in all walks of life.
British Arabs - Wikipedia
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I had zero idea that KSA had many upcoming MMA and professional boxers ("taboo sports" in some ways - which is strange as Arabs and Arabia had a millennia old tradition of martial arts and the oldest recorded examples of martial art in the world were/are recorded in the Arab world) during the Sahwa era - let alone as a way of living, that are emerging.
However I don't like that some of our women are involved in such sports. Unbefitting.
However since KSA has started to host many of the largest MMA and boxing events in the world even, we might do with a much larger and more succesfull local boxing and MMA infrastructure.
I suggest importing retired Dagestani and Chechen etc. fighters (who are not physically bigger than Saudi Arabians on average - in fact like many other people living in mountains they tend to be of a smaller stature) whom we have great and close historical relations with (DNA wise as well btw), and even local communities within KSA (now nationalized). Religious and cultural connection as well. They could help build such an infrastructure.
Most difficult thing would be to convince a local Saudi Arabian (not from some marginalized economically family or the usual 1 or 2 "unusual" people out there) to make this their living.
Much easier for Dagestanis, who are living in one of the poorest regions of Russia, with very little economic perspective, to pick that career as a way out of poverty etc. Not to mention the marginalization that many Caucasus Muslims face in Russia.
Unless the goal is simply to host such global boxing and MMA events as a way (among others) to attract tourists and visitors (so far very succesfull) and put KSA on the map in those sports.
I would personally not be against some mandatory martial arts training in public and private schools across the country. Not everyone would like it but at least they would have some kind of idea and exposure to it.
If not just to improve the general health - which was been improving massively in KSA in recent years with obesity rates falling sharply (continuing to do so) and more and more people participating in sports and physical activity and more sporting infrastructure (world class) appearing everywhere. No more excuses either as people now have the opportunity (no laws that prevent this - even for women) and infrastructure and knowledge (exercise = a healthy and good thing).
However I don't like that some of our women are involved in such sports. Unbefitting.
However since KSA has started to host many of the largest MMA and boxing events in the world even, we might do with a much larger and more succesfull local boxing and MMA infrastructure.
I suggest importing retired Dagestani and Chechen etc. fighters (who are not physically bigger than Saudi Arabians on average - in fact like many other people living in mountains they tend to be of a smaller stature) whom we have great and close historical relations with (DNA wise as well btw), and even local communities within KSA (now nationalized). Religious and cultural connection as well. They could help build such an infrastructure.
Most difficult thing would be to convince a local Saudi Arabian (not from some marginalized economically family or the usual 1 or 2 "unusual" people out there) to make this their living.
Much easier for Dagestanis, who are living in one of the poorest regions of Russia, with very little economic perspective, to pick that career as a way out of poverty etc. Not to mention the marginalization that many Caucasus Muslims face in Russia.
Unless the goal is simply to host such global boxing and MMA events as a way (among others) to attract tourists and visitors (so far very succesfull) and put KSA on the map in those sports.
I would personally not be against some mandatory martial arts training in public and private schools across the country. Not everyone would like it but at least they would have some kind of idea and exposure to it.
If not just to improve the general health - which was been improving massively in KSA in recent years with obesity rates falling sharply (continuing to do so) and more and more people participating in sports and physical activity and more sporting infrastructure (world class) appearing everywhere. No more excuses either as people now have the opportunity (no laws that prevent this - even for women) and infrastructure and knowledge (exercise = a healthy and good thing).
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