Army Chief tenure to reset with CDF appointment

VCheng said:
Many flavors of the same dish. My favorite is the AC-130 AFCS where multiple targets get hit from all sides nearly simultaneously. Muy Picante!
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I don't know about that one. If we have it all the better then!
 
hnn said:
That's a different system inducted almost a decade ago. It's base is MLRS and the rocket then splits into 4 smaller shells or something once making the descent. Don't know exact details on that one though. As far as I remember it was being used by Missile Regiments under ASFC.
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@Goenitz
Disregard my above post, I had two systems confused from memory. The one you were asking for is A-100E. It's a MLRS, the warhead contains bomblets, and is operated by Artillery and not ASFC. I had the MIRV systems confused with it from memory which is ASFC domain.
 
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With no solid and agreed foundation..
 
PakSword said:
Should've forced the assembly to include Jannat ul Firdaus in the constitution under his ownership. Without that, the constitution is incomplete.
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Excuse me, but Janat-ul-Firdaus is already occupied by Divine Defence Housing Society.

The public will be directed towards Divine Kana Kaachcha down between the Rivers of Honey and Milk Flood Bunds for their one marla plots.
 
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FM Asim Munir could borrow alot from Ugandan Idi Amin
here are his titles
His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular
 
muz said:
FM Asim Munir could borrow alot from Ugandan Idi Amin
here are his titles
His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular
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I wholeheartedly concur
 
This is going to be an unpopular opinion but I really see Asim Munir as a major reformist in Pakistan's history — I'm not going to pretend he's democratic because there is certainly rigging involved against Khan's party PTI — but the current track record speaks for itself. He almost reminds me or a sort of Pakistani version of Mustafa Kemal in Turkey.

If he is able to remove PPP's clutches from Sindh and the overall clutches of feudal mafia groups throughout Pakistan and perhaps create more provinces for effective local governence (not the current pseudo-state feifdoms each Chief Minister has) and can turn around its economic fate, then in the future everyone will actually remember him very positively.

Foreign policy he has delivered exceptionally well and partially at domestic policy — but there are some areas he must address to cement his legacy:

— Eliminate feudalism in Sindh and South Punjab.

— Creation of more provinces for effective local administration. Current provinces are mini-feifdoms.

— Overhaul and modernise the beuracratic structure, from recruitment, examination and selection, have subject-level specialisation to get domain experts.

— Tackle religious extremism at its roots, promote a moderate and educational Islam. Pakistan Studies should focus more on a Pakistani civilisational nationalism instead of exclusively "Muslim nationalism" alone because it is mentally destroying the perception of the average citizen for foreigners.

Last but not least is obviously tangible economic growth. Defence pact with Saudi & Qatar could enable this if used properly.
 
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Hopefully Pessimistic said:
This is going to be an unpopular opinion but I really see Asim Munir as a major reformist in Pakistan's history — I'm not going to pretend he's democratic because there is certainly rigging involved against Khan's party PTI — but the current track record speaks for itself. He almost reminds me or a sort of Pakistani version of Mustafa Kemal in Turkey.

If he is able to remove PPP's clutches from Sindh and the overall clutches of feudal mafia groups throughout Pakistan and perhaps create more provinces for effective local governence (not the current pseudo-state feifdoms each Chief Minister has) and can turn around its economic fate, then in the future everyone will actually remember him very positively.

Foreign policy he has delivered exceptionally well and partially at domestic policy — but there are some areas he must address to cement his legacy:

— Eliminate feudalism in Sindh and South Punjab.

— Creation of more provinces for effective local administration. Current provinces are mini-feifdoms.

— Overhaul and modernise the beuracratic structure, from recruitment, examination and selection, have subject-level specialisation to get domain experts.

— Tackle religious extremism at its roots, promote a moderate and educational Islam. Pakistan Studies should focus more on a Pakistani civilisational nationalism instead of exclusively "Muslim nationalism" alone because it is mentally destroying the perception of the average citizen for foreigners.

Last but not least is obviously tangible economic growth. Defence pact with Saudi & Qatar could enable this if used properly.
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Right, all we can do is hope and pray. And that approach has worked for the last 75 years?
 
Hopefully Pessimistic said:
This is going to be an unpopular opinion but I really see Asim Munir as a major reformist in Pakistan's history — I'm not going to pretend he's democratic because there is certainly rigging involved against Khan's party PTI — but the current track record speaks for itself. He almost reminds me or a sort of Pakistani version of Mustafa Kemal in Turkey.

If he is able to remove PPP's clutches from Sindh and the overall clutches of feudal mafia groups throughout Pakistan and perhaps create more provinces for effective local governence (not the current pseudo-state feifdoms each Chief Minister has) and can turn around its economic fate, then in the future everyone will actually remember him very positively.

Foreign policy he has delivered exceptionally well and partially at domestic policy — but there are some areas he must address to cement his legacy:

— Eliminate feudalism in Sindh and South Punjab.

— Creation of more provinces for effective local administration. Current provinces are mini-feifdoms.

— Overhaul and modernise the beuracratic structure, from recruitment, examination and selection, have subject-level specialisation to get domain experts.

— Tackle religious extremism at its roots, promote a moderate and educational Islam. Pakistan Studies should focus more on a Pakistani civilisational nationalism instead of exclusively "Muslim nationalism" alone because it is mentally destroying the perception of the average citizen for foreigners.

Last but not least is obviously tangible economic growth. Defence pact with Saudi & Qatar could enable this if used properly.
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we have criminals in power, and there is no signs of their removal.
The entire parliament, senate, executive and judiciary is full of money-launderer and mafias....How can we not have people with clean records from 25 crore? Why stuck with the same recylced garbage elites of PPP, PML, PTI and others that are still here ruling the country for decades?

if they wanted cleanup it would've happened already a while ago.........but a man like zardari still occupies President post. How pathetic that is. Come on.
 
The Chief of Defence Forces (CDF) would have operational command and control of the armed forces and would be accountable to the federal government in matters relating to such command and control.

and

The CDF would also have powers under relevant laws to retire, release or dismiss personnel, except those appointed under Article 243 of the Constitution. The CDF could also approve or reject resignations, retain personnel in service and reduce the retirement age or prescribed term of service of a person.
 
Goenitz said:
The Chief of Defence Forces (CDF) would have operational command and control of the armed forces and would be accountable to the federal government in matters relating to such command and control.

and

The CDF would also have powers under relevant laws to retire, release or dismiss personnel, except those appointed under Article 243 of the Constitution. The CDF could also approve or reject resignations, retain personnel in service and reduce the retirement age or prescribed term of service of a person.
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Firing is one thing but how can he reduce the retirement age?
 
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