Bangladesh Socio-Political Crisis 2024 and onwards

[Fallstuff]

BAL senior leader and Billionaire Salman F Rahman and former BAL Law minister Anisul Haque caught by coast guard while trying to escape from Bangladesh.

Salman F Rahman through his stock market manipulation and corruption destroyed DSEX and amassed billions of dollars in the last 2 decades. He was known for having long white beard and maintaining an appearances of a pious man. But as we all knew to be true, it was all part of his deception. The picture on the right is of him clean shaved.

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Which one is Darbesh ? Or for that matter what happened to Darbesh look ?

 

[LeonBlack08]

Which one is Darbesh ? Or for that matter what happened to Darbesh look ?

Darbesh is Salman F Rahman, the pic on right.

Darbesh look went out the window and the real face came out. This guy used religiosity as a veil to cover up his misdeeds.

Allah decided to expose him for who he really is.

 

[Fallstuff]

Maybe dorbesh thought he could talk or deal his way out . This is pretty serious stuff that dorbesh is in trouble. He was like teflon dorbesh. Wonder if they will do something about Bashundhara Anvir.

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[LeonBlack08]

Maybe dorbesh thought he could talk or deal his way out . This is pretty serious stuff that dorbesh is in trouble. He was like teflon dorbesh. Wonder if they will do something about Bashundhara Anvir.

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This is a huge development - Salman F Rahman would have bankrolled any sort of BAL comeback. With him caught, this should put fear into those BAL BSL cadres still hoping for a miraculous comeback.

As for Anvir - people have already started calling for justice, hopefully he will be brought to justice soon.

 

[Fallstuff]

BAL senior leader and Billionaire Salman F Rahman and former BAL Law minister Anisul Haque caught by coast guard while trying to escape from Bangladesh.

Salman F Rahman through his stock market manipulation and corruption destroyed DSEX and amassed billions of dollars in the last 2 decades. He was known for having long white beard and maintaining an appearances of a pious man. But as we all knew to be true, it was all part of his deception. The picture on the right is of him clean shaved.

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This picture is worth a million bucks. Oh how the mighty has fallen!

 

[Solomon2]

Because the hostility in Kashmir in Suharwardy’s mind did not translate to an issue in daily minutia. He was focused on how to create economic movement for all in EP and WP and that was intolerable to the brown sahibs.

The same way, a family visit in Lucknow was not a far fetched idea for some members of my family because the crossing wasn’t an issue until 65.

PAF aircraft would regularly land at Dum Dum or other places enroute to Dhaka or Chittagong.

And it all stems back to the original and unfortunately lost idealism of Jinnah’s Canada to a USA with the two nations.
Regardless, irrelevant to today in every aspect to the three countries.

As one of our relations in India said it best “Jinnah Muqadmah lartay reh gaye - ye nahin socha ke meray baad kya hoga”

At the end, this current situation in BD begs the question of success when so many fault lines are being opened simultaneously.

Considering the amount of embedding the AL reportedly has done(oddly similar to PML(N) in Pakistan and what BJP is attempting) the new interim government will find itself hard pressed to stabilize things as Hasinas assets try to make it impossible to run BD without her.

People forget that originally it was hoped that the division between Pakistan and India would be short-lived.

 

[Oscar]

People forget that originally it was hoped that the division between Pakistan and India would be short-lived.

This hope was confined to the Indian side - but the idea was never hostile states.

 

[Fallstuff]

This picture is worth a million bucks. Oh how the mighty has fallen!

This man was probably one of the 10 most powerful people in Bangladesh, just a few days ago.
Now tied up like a common thief !!
Oh dear God !!!

 

[BananaRepublic]

So much for having emotional intelligence that you couldn't see the pun.

And yeah, stop boasting. Or keep it up.

Do you even know what a pun is?

Or are you confusing it with the disgusting habit of chewing paan?

 

[Afif]

Do you even know what a pun is?

"the humorous use of a word or phrase so as to emphasize or suggest its different meanings or applications."

 

[Nilgiri]

He was being a typical south Asian!

Personalised it!

We are not programmed to handle personalised attacks.

And we also absolutely abhor personality cults.

Again, education system encourages critical analysis of even national heroes.

I once wrote a damning piece on Churchill.

My Churchill worshipping teacher loved it. Her retort was, “I have read worse”. But not bad from a 14 year old!

A nation that needs blasphemy laws - requires a lot of growing up!

W.r.t the west, I see sufficient and persistent presence of personality cults and/or the precursor basis with heavy insular partisan ideologues in some "gladiator arena id" emotionalism-triumphalism that makes such personality cults wax in the first place.

Nothing exceptional here w.r.t the west for you to then assert and try make something non-western (especially an individual) feel inferior by virtue of simply being non-western.

There is the bigger picture and how systems (to handle politics, authority and so on) are designed with human imperfection in mind....so that power is not easily concentrated in such a way that it can become a situation of tail wagging the dog (and the dog suffering over time, and making its defeatist stockholm syndrome to the situation longer term).

The proper checks and balances and feedback loop resolution sociopolitically.

There are definitely things for various non-western societies to learn from the west (past the west's imperfections in properly implementing this as well) here....to grow such things as material prosperity, better permeation of justice and other such consequences you get from higher alignment to truth in the end. To also learn from the West's mistakes here (from their persistent misalignment to some % degree and why....despite their effort and worthy investment of broadly cultivating this approach as the default, through trial and tribulation of the last few centuries).

But that is something completely different to the reductive stuff you are putting here....to condemn "south asians" or whomever else collectively....and however long you have done such with folks like leonblack to get his distaste to you past the heavy BAL ideologue stuff (simply by virtue of their power concentration) you may or may not have had also alongside that....I care not to explore.

Leonblack is one I have respect and trust surplus in general for, because he is balanced objectively aligned fellow from what I have seen so far past other reasons I saw as well. You must have done something pretty persistently to earn his disfavour heh.

I don't think you are a "jan 7th 2024" phenomenon as Joe put it at all....but my vague recollection of you is one-note, tone deaf stuff I mostly have ignored in previous reads of PDF to stay in touch....but I dont remember tbh as it was not qualitatively memorable for my tastes.

Churchill and your "damning piece" mean nothing to me in the end. It is reductive to make these things self-centred like that to begin with when we are talking about massive societies and forces involving them.

Anyway bud, I have no intention to get into rabbit hole stuff with you.

I have different emotional response to last verse of "dhono dhanno pushpe bhora" than you clearly.

The motherland and its people will always be close to my heart and soul. Bengalis have some of the best songs and cultural output of all time regarding this. Your high and mighty westerners couldnt take it away from them. It is amazing to me the Bengali resilience and renaissance, it will always be there among Bengali people.

 

[Alter_Ego]

https://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/354791/how-to-clean-up-bangladesh%E2%80%99s-political-parties

"First of all, it cannot escape the notice of anyone in Bangladesh that the major political parties are havens of criminal activity. Every trader and businessman has the experience of dealing with local political party thugs and mastans demanding “donations” (chanda). University students trying to secure places in residence halls of public universities have to jump through hoops to keep the local mastans happy. Even managing directors of banks reportedly feel similar pressure, resulting in our current epidemic of bank loan default.

Anyone experiencing this would never dream of joining the political parties which patronize the thugs who are victimizing them. That’s a simple reason why many Bangladeshis find it impossible to join AL/BNP as they are currently constituted. So these parties have to be completely cleaned up. It’s only when people view a political party as a safe and civilized place to discuss views that the average person will be willing to join. That means we need a country ruled by law and order, with no chandabaji, extortion, or willful bank loan default. This can only be accomplished by an efficient and effective police force and judiciary. Banks and financial institutions which have fallen victim to fraud will probably have to be closed down. The government should ensure that depositors’ money is returned to them.

Second, people will only join a political party if they see that their votes matter. In the UK, each MP constituency has local political party branches. Local party members get to know each other’s views through regular meetings and policy discussions, and when it’s time to decide who will be the MP nominee from that area, local party members’ votes generally do have weight (although the system is not perfect; parliamentary selection groups in each party have the ultimate say in who gets MP nominations). Still it’s a far cry from the practice of MP nominations being decided by the dynastic families of political parties in Bangladesh; such selection authority gives those royal families a strangle-hold on democracy which needs to be broken.

Implementing local party votes to determine MP candidate nominations would create a meritocratic pathway for new leadership to emerge from the ground up in all our political parties, freeing them from the clutches of the political dynasties who have served us so poorly.



Third, politics must become completely non-violent -- no civilized person will join a political party if the job of the party is to engage in street warfare. In developed countries, there’s a distinguishing feature of legitimate political activism; it’s never violent. Over the last few years there have been countless political protests in Western countries over climate change, and more recently Israel’s genocidal bombardment in Gaza; but there is rarely any violence.

Political violence in developed countries generally results in the individuals involved facing criminal charges and jail time. Bangladeshi politics has to take this evolutionary step. Being a successful politician must be about having good policy ideas and communicating them to the public to build support, not about fighting in the streets."

 

[Fallstuff]

https://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/354791/how-to-clean-up-bangladesh%E2%80%99s-political-parties

"First of all, it cannot escape the notice of anyone in Bangladesh that the major political parties are havens of criminal activity. Every trader and businessman has the experience of dealing with local political party thugs and mastans demanding “donations” (chanda). University students trying to secure places in residence halls of public universities have to jump through hoops to keep the local mastans happy. Even managing directors of banks reportedly feel similar pressure, resulting in our current epidemic of bank loan default.

Anyone experiencing this would never dream of joining the political parties which patronize the thugs who are victimizing them. That’s a simple reason why many Bangladeshis find it impossible to join AL/BNP as they are currently constituted. So these parties have to be completely cleaned up. It’s only when people view a political party as a safe and civilized place to discuss views that the average person will be willing to join. That means we need a country ruled by law and order, with no chandabaji, extortion, or willful bank loan default. This can only be accomplished by an efficient and effective police force and judiciary. Banks and financial institutions which have fallen victim to fraud will probably have to be closed down. The government should ensure that depositors’ money is returned to them.

Second, people will only join a political party if they see that their votes matter. In the UK, each MP constituency has local political party branches. Local party members get to know each other’s views through regular meetings and policy discussions, and when it’s time to decide who will be the MP nominee from that area, local party members’ votes generally do have weight (although the system is not perfect; parliamentary selection groups in each party have the ultimate say in who gets MP nominations). Still it’s a far cry from the practice of MP nominations being decided by the dynastic families of political parties in Bangladesh; such selection authority gives those royal families a strangle-hold on democracy which needs to be broken.

Implementing local party votes to determine MP candidate nominations would create a meritocratic pathway for new leadership to emerge from the ground up in all our political parties, freeing them from the clutches of the political dynasties who have served us so poorly.



Third, politics must become completely non-violent -- no civilized person will join a political party if the job of the party is to engage in street warfare. In developed countries, there’s a distinguishing feature of legitimate political activism; it’s never violent. Over the last few years there have been countless political protests in Western countries over climate change, and more recently Israel’s genocidal bombardment in Gaza; but there is rarely any violence.

Political violence in developed countries generally results in the individuals involved facing criminal charges and jail time. Bangladeshi politics has to take this evolutionary step. Being a successful politician must be about having good policy ideas and communicating them to the public to build support, not about fighting in the streets."

Probably have to find a way to automate as much as possible to curtail corruption. Then again there is the “system down “ issue !!!

 

[Pataliputra]

Jamatis have started revealing their true intentions now imposing Pakistani attire on Bangladeshi women.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if the Jamatis started pushing to lower the minimum marriage age for women to 9, similar to what’s happening in Iraq, where a draft proposal has been filed to reduce the minimum age of marriage for women from 18 to 9.

 

[Mr X]

Jamatis have started revealing their true intentions now imposing Pakistani attire on Bangladeshi women.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if the Jamatis started pushing to lower the minimum marriage age for women to 9, similar to what’s happening in Iraq, where a draft proposal has been filed to reduce the minimum age of marriage for women from 18 to 9.

Not gonnai happen. Bangladesh is too liberal for such laws