Bill Unveiled To Ban TikTok From U.S. Unless Company Makes Massive Changes

[Hack-Hook]

The issue here is not Chinese ownership but the control of the CCP over the data.

but all us data are kept in data-center in USA how they can be under ccp control

 

[VCheng]

but all us data are kept in data-center in USA how they can be under ccp control

That is not the only copy of the data, and the entire database is available to the CCP. That is the main problem.

 

[Nan Yang]

If the US bans TikTok, China will be getting a taste of its own medicine​

Rubbish. Tiktok is following ALL US laws.

Goggle can operate in China if it follows China's law. Simple as that.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Rubbish. Tiktok is following ALL US laws.

Goggle can operate in China if it follows China's law. Simple as that.

Well stop crying when we try to change the laws to be more in line with what companies have to deal with in China to make things more on an even playing field.

 

[Peregrine]

Tik Tok’s US user data is stored in data centers in the US.

Israel can forget robbery of worlds most popular app.

 

[Nan Yang]

Well stop crying when we try to change the laws to be more in line with what companies have to deal with in China to make things more on an even playing field.

LOL. Just proves banning Tiktok is because it was more successful, more news that Western Mainstream Media does not report and more innovative than Facebook or Google.

Nothing to do with CCP.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

LOL. Just proves banning Tiktok is because it was more successful, more news that Western Mainstream Media does not report and more innovative than Facebook or Google.

Nothing to do with CCP.

LOL! I’m pretty sure there are tons of YouTube competitors that are not banned in China simply because they are not successful and thus not on the CCP’s radar.

 

[gambit]

Get this straight...

If a Chinese entity, meaning that entity is physically located in mainland China, can access TikTok data by any mean, it is irrelevant if the data is physically in US servers.

If the CPC can issue orders to ByteDance who then can issue orders to TikTok, it is irrelevant who legally owns TikTok.

IRRELEVANT.

 

[hussain0216]

Can U.S users access tik Tok via a VPN???

 

[Nan Yang]

Get this straight...

If a Chinese entity, meaning that entity is physically located in mainland China, can access TikTok data by any mean, it is irrelevant if the data is physically in US servers.

If the CPC can issue orders to ByteDance who then can issue orders to TikTok, it is irrelevant who legally owns TikTok.

IRRELEVANT.

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[Nan Yang]

LOL! I’m pretty sure there are tons of YouTube competitors that are not banned in China simply because they are not successful and thus not on the CCP’s radar.

Still nothing to do with CCP.
Its banning American citizens from expressing themselves. Might as well call it a censorship bill.

 

[retaxis]

The main problem is not TikTok

the Main problem is that US is addicted to trash content like tiktok symbolising their freefall from hardworking white americans 40years ago to now majority non white americans and sissy white americans. Can change an app but can't change woke demographic replacement.

Tiktok replacement will be even more woke and anti-conservative hard working values. good for china either way but America is on such a steep decline socially/demographically/economically that nothing can stop that decline barring a mass genocide.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Get this straight...

If a Chinese entity, meaning that entity is physically located in mainland China, can access TikTok data by any mean, it is irrelevant if the data is physically in US servers.

If the CPC can issue orders to ByteDance who then can issue orders to TikTok, it is irrelevant who legally owns TikTok.

IRRELEVANT.

but only 20% of byte-dance owned by its founder and 1% by china
ByteDance's owners include its founders and Chinese investors (20%), global investors (60%), and employees (20%) and the company technically is registered in Cayman island.
when it come to tictok it become more intresting
TikTok Ltd was incorporated in the Cayman Islands and is based in both Singapore and Los Angeles.[15] It owns four entities that are based respectively in the United States, Australia (which also runs the New Zealand business), United Kingdom (also owns subsidiaries in the European Union), and Singapore (owns operations in Southeast Asia and India).[16][17]
wonder how ccp can access tictok data

 

[gambit]

but only 20% of byte-dance owned by its founder and 1% by china
ByteDance's owners include its founders and Chinese investors (20%), global investors (60%), and employees (20%) and the company technically is registered in Cayman island.
when it come to tictok it become more intresting
TikTok Ltd was incorporated in the Cayman Islands and is based in both Singapore and Los Angeles.[15] It owns four entities that are based respectively in the United States, Australia (which also runs the New Zealand business), United Kingdom (also owns subsidiaries in the European Union), and Singapore (owns operations in Southeast Asia and India).[16][17]
wonder how ccp can access tictok data

Why is China objecting to a sale of TikTok if the CPC have no vested interests in the company?

How can the CPC access data? The same way I accessed Micron Tech's data servers when I was in Shanghai. I was given permission and procedures.

 

[Nan Yang]

TIKTOK THREAT IS PURELY HYPOTHETICAL, U.S. INTELLIGENCE ADMITS​

“We have nothing to add,” the FBI said, when asked for evidence of TikTok’s actual threat.

Ken Klippenstein
March 16 2024, 11:31 a.m.

A TikTok advertisement at a Metro station in Washington, D.C., on March 30, 2023. Photo: Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg via Getty Images

THE PURPORTED THREAT of TikTok to U.S. national security has inflated into a hysteria of Chinese spy balloon proportions, but the official record tells a different story: U.S. intelligence has produced no evidence that the popular social media site has ever coordinated with Beijing. That fact hasn’t stopped many in Congress and even President Joe Biden from touting legislation that would force the sale of the app, as the TikTok frenzy fills the news pages with empty conjecture and innuendo.

In interviews and testimony to Congress about TikTok, leaders of the FBI, CIA, and the director of national intelligence have in fact been careful to qualify the national security threat posed by TikTok as purely hypothetical. With access to much of the government’s most sensitive intelligence, they are well placed to know.

The basic charge is that TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance, a Chinese company, could be compelled by the government in Beijing to use their app in targeted operations to manipulate public opinion, collect mass data on Americans, and even spy on individual users. (TikTok says it has never shared U.S. user data with the Chinese government and would not do so if asked. This week, TikTok CEO Shou Chew said that “there’s no CCP ownership” of ByteDance, referring to the Chinese Communist Party.)

Though top national security officials seem happy to echo these allegations of Chinese control of TikTok, they stop short of saying that China has ever actually coordinated with the company.

Typical is an interview CIA Director William Burns gave to CNN in 2022, where he said it was “troubling to see what the Chinese government could do to manipulate TikTok.” Not what the Chinese government has done, but what it could do.

What China could do turns out to be a recurring theme in the statements of the top national security officials.

TikTok Threat Is Purely Hypothetical, U.S. Intelligence Admits

“We have nothing to add,” the FBI said, when asked for evidence of TikTok’s actual threat.

theintercept.com