Breaking: Boeing wins the US Air Force Next Generation Air Dominance fighter contract

[AjayGhatak]

lool you're denser then me troll, please show please show me how many air to air kills achieved by F-22 in REAL COMBAT SCCENARIOS ? forget about F-16/F-15, gulf war or war in Afghanistan LOL

Lets turn this chess board around, how many air to air kills J10/J20/J35 etc have made till date? How many kills have PL-12 or PL-15 made till date in "REAL COMBAT SCCENARIOS(sic)" ?

If we are talking about real combat validation, Chinese airforce and missiles are simply not there.

Just saying.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

F35 has a more RCS in rear sector because of exposed nozzles of the engines

Its engines is treated with special ceramics to reduce RCS from behind, J35 is still using conventional engine WS-13 and J35 is still in a testing phase until WS-19 engines will incorporated in future

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Yes,and that's why i won't say NGAD or chinese Gen7th fight had finished its maiden flight until the prototype is done and taking off from the airport.Now what you have are numerous CGs and PPTs,and even you don't know which is the true looking.

Ever heard black projects and X-planes in top secret proving grounds like Nevada testing grounds aka GROOM LAKE more infamous as a Aera 51 or Edward airforce base aka plant 42

 

[AjayGhatak]

US Pacific Air Forces Kenneth S. Wilsbach revealed that the US military's F-35 fighter jets have "encountered" China's J-20 at least once. The close contact over the East China Sea meant that the F35 was intercepted by the J-20. Neither the US AWACS nor the F35 noticed the J20 approaching. The J20 discovered the F35 in advance with the help of the AWACS and intercepted it. Your comments on the J20 are stupid.

None of this is true.
He only mentioned encounter. He did not mention who intercepted whom and who detected whom.
Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/defenc...er-east-china-sea-usaf-general/147936.article

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Lets turn this chess board around, how many air to air kills J10/J20/J35 etc have made till date? How many kills have PL-12 or PL-15 made till date in "REAL COMBAT SCCENARIOS(sic)" ?

If we are talking about real combat validation, Chinese airforce and missiles are simply not there.

Just saying.

Your countryman saying opposite to that, and please Chinese developments on aviation fields are relatively new (after 2000) F22 is there at least since 1997, and your countryman is saying F22 is best on what bases?

 

[AjayGhatak]

Your countryman saying opposite to that, and please Chinese developments on aviation fields are relatively new (after 2000) F22 is there at least since 1997, and your countryman is saying F22 is best on what bases?

First he is not my country man.

Second, Chinese jets have been around now for sometime, including variants of Mig-21 made by them. It is wrong to say they are that new.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

First he is not my country man.

Second, Chinese jets have been around now for sometime, including variants of Mig-21 made by them. It is wrong to say they are that new.

I'm talking about from scratch design, F-7 is a cooperation between Soviet and Chinese during the cold War, and did F-7 able to carry BVRs, please explain?

 

[liuzhengdong]

None of this is true.
He only mentioned encounter. He did not mention who intercepted whom and who detected whom.
Source: https://www.flightglobal.com/defenc...er-east-china-sea-usaf-general/147936.article

The J-20 conducts routine patrol training along the coast of mainland China, and only flies over the East China Sea for interception missions.

The J-20 has patrolled Taiwan Island many times. Have you ever seen reports of the J-20 being spotted by US radar?

 

[liuzhengdong]

Its engines is treated with special ceramics to reduce RCS from behind, J35 is still using conventional engine WS-13 and J35 is still in a testing phase until WS-19 engines will incorporated in future

It's just that the engine nozzle is treated with special ceramics, which has nothing to do with the engine. The nozzle of J35 is also treated with special ceramics.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Like EVs and ships, US has to balance between quality and cost.Why Trump refused to reveal the cost?

 

[F-22Raptor]

Had to go to Boeing for purely political reasons. Boeing commercial aviation is still reeling from 737 Max disaster and it is a too big to fail enterprise so US gov has come to the rescue.

Nope, Boeing has been the front runner for a couple years now due to its revolutionary design. Check the date

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

It's just that the engine nozzle is treated with special ceramics, which has nothing to do with the engine. The nozzle of J35 is also treated with special ceramics.

Lol special ceramics do play parts to reduce IR and radar cross section of the engine

And please provide me the solid evidence that WS-13 (which is based on Russian RD-93) has the special ceramics coatings to reduce IR and radar cross section of the engine

 

[Ek Baal ~]

By TMZ:
Another image we now have of the F-47 concept shows a very interesting and downright puzzling angle. We see that indeed this aircraft has a very broad shovel-like nose and its Bird of Prey-like wing dihedral is also apparent. The canopy looks quite wide as well and a better look at the fuselage is also seen here.

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Well well well.... Seems the F-47 will look more exotic than LM version.

Me after seeing the last pic....Kya "Qaher" dha rahe ho bhai

 

[F-22Raptor]

The reality is that F-47 prototypes have been flying for the last 5 years, logging hundreds of flight hours, and are much closer to final production than anyone realized.

And the copers are having a hard time wrapping their minds around it.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Canards present a trade-off: they likely increase RCS but significantly improve maneuverability. Particularly in tailless designs, canards are often crucial for control, unless the aircraft's design can otherwise replicate that maneuverability.

Now, the US will likely emphasize the design superiority of having canards, while China will likely dismiss them as outdated, claiming to have surpassed that technology level in tailless design.