bunyan-al-marsous: JF-17A delivering CM-400AKG

You don’t have to destroy the equipment by blowing it to smithereens.

Please see the size of the warhead in AGM-88 and the effects it does. So long as the Antenna is knocked out - its out of commission.

Your Brahmos example is absolutely pointless here and you’re trying to quickly close your case which is not closed.
that's not the point, just answer these questions
1. Will you use a inert missile when you are going to strike a high value asset or will you use the 200kg of warhead it has to maximize you chances
2. If a 200kg of warhead exploded even in an open field it would atleast leave a crater so even if you didn't destroy the equipment by blowing it to smithereens, and only took it out of commission there should have been a crater left behind in the radar's vicinity
3. Lets assume it was a airburst bomb and it merely took the radar out of commission, even in that case, the supposed area where the radar was located is quite green, and would have surely burnt out enough to leave patches on the ground to confirm or deny you accusation , heck there is a bush right beside the radar location at least that would have burnt down.

But if maxar and other sats are not allowed over Indian airspace (which these companies follow because they want Indian business) then the only option is whenever a Chinese sat goes over .
LoL you are so wrong here that it's bordering on Conspiracy theory.
you can just email Maxar and ask if they are allowed over Indian airspace, Also how will India even prevent these guys from entering Indian airspace, these things are satellites not airplanes that their course can be altered on will
just because no one bothered to buy maxar images to prove this bullshit story of yours does not mean Maxar is shadow banned from selling satellite images of India.

Also screw maxar for a second, no one from your side even bothered to buy similar pictures from chinese sats either, every 3rd party sat image you folks have provided is free tier images from sat providers where its had to tell heads from tails.
 
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To be very honest, there's limited evidence surrounding the validity of this claim, but unlike India, Pakistan does have more credibility and one thing is clear is that the S-400 was definitely attempted to be destroyed using CM-400s

Given the nature of the strike and how the damage could be covered from becoming conclusive evidence, we will never know if it was destroyed. Indians would never admit it and Pakistanis could be wrong about successfully striking it.


Regardless s400 could shoot down any thing single PAF plane…

PAF must have done thing to it to so ineffectual

Or

The Indian air defense is completely incompetent
 
Ok

You want proof . . .?

Follow your own press briefing where miss quereshi moaned about our missiles being too fast … what’s the matter s400 not working ?

After all you lungi boys bragged it can shoot down any thing PAF … so far not one plane down.

now go enjoy your tea.. malu bhabi


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You have again resorted to shenanigans and irrelevant content to make a claim.
What has Modi’s pic to do with S400 being hit successfully.

If chest thumping is the only argument you have, then keeping quite and letting elders to do the discussion may be a better idea.
 
You have again resorted to shenanigans and irrelevant content to make a claim.
What has Modi’s pic to do with S400 being hit successfully.

If chest thumping is the only argument you have, then keeping quite and letting elders to do the discussion may be a better idea.


You approached the Americans for ceasefire…

Pretty much the entire planet knows you could not handle Pakistan..

So much for your much vaunted weapons ..

Think of it like this ..

MOD EDIT
 
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HAL Koraput has been making Russian engines for long
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Show me picture of manufacturing from independent media not indusn media ... the Russian news link u mentioned only talk about interest if will instead of been assembled .. so please pri ude proof
 
@Fatman17
Can you please correct the spelling in thread title
"bunyan-al-marsous"
Someone pointed it before also but it was not corrected.
Thanks
 
that's not the point, just answer these questions
1. Will you use a inert missile when you are going to strike a high value asset or will you use the 200kg of warhead it has to maximize you chances
2. If a 200kg of warhead exploded even in an open field it would atleast leave a crater so even if you didn't destroy the equipment by blowing it to smithereens, and only took it out of commission there should have been a crater left behind in the radar's vicinity
3. Lets assume it was a airburst bomb and it merely took the radar out of commission, even in that case, the supposed area where the radar was located is quite green, and would have surely burnt out enough to leave patches on the ground to confirm or deny you accusation , heck there is a bush right beside the radar location at least that would have burnt down.


LoL you are so wrong here that it's bordering on Conspiracy theory.
you can just email Maxar and ask if they are allowed over Indian airspace, Also how will India even prevent these guys from entering Indian airspace, these things are satellites not airplanes that their course can be altered on will
just because no one bothered to buy maxar images to prove this bullshit story of yours does not mean Maxar is shadow banned from selling satellite images of India.

Also screw maxar for a second, no one from your side even bothered to buy similar pictures from chinese sats either, every 3rd party sat image you folks have provided is free tier images from sat providers where its had to tell heads from tails.
1. Fair point but we are all assuming that is the warhead size. Janes claims 40kg - CATIC is supposed to have put 200kg. Which is it?

2. & 3 Without satellite imagery I don’t know what’s out there - schrodingers cat

I am happy to email maxar but there is plenty of stuff in the articles here that state India took action proactively
https://theprint.in/defence/pahalgam-satellite-image-us-space-tech-firm-maxar-technologies/2620666/

https://organiser.org/2025/05/14/29...ite-imagery-before-the-attack-via-maxar-tech/

“BSI has not placed any tasking orders with Maxar of Pahalgam or the surrounding areas this year, nor have they ordered any of the imagery we currently have of those areas through our imagery archive.”

This response by Maxar came soon after India’s disclosure of those orders, and notably within hours, Maxar removed the Pakistani firm BSI from its partner directory.


Do I read like someone making conspiracy theories?

Now regarding the Chinese providing the imagery - this cooperation has both been overstated and also assumed to be without consequences.

Unfortunately as it is common for the Indian side and also the west the assumption is that China controls the situation like a puppet and Pakistan is like a child sitting on a remote controlled ride on car.

It is as far from the truth as it can be - and it’s ok to underestimate.

Having access to beidou military grade doesn’t mean open access to imint from China’s space capabilities.

China got involved to the extent of technology but it keeps its limits by providing data on access and restricts what Pakistan can disclose because it doesn’t want to validate the two-front theory and completely leave no avenues left for India.

So no - no Chinese satellite imagery will be disclosed until the Chinese approve it and if means a S-400 is considered undamaged and the most potent system India has then so be it. Much like a MKI was still considered a “Raptor of the east” and “Amraam” dodger yet Modi had to say “Agar Rafale hota” - another statement of “make local” has come out with pictures in front of S-400 TELs.
 
Fairly rational assessment.

Both sides have played smart in information warfare. No side can be blamed exclusively for twisting and turning truth to own advantage. Thats what is supposed to be done.

Both sides launched many attacks and few of them are likely to have failed. Attack on S400 must have been planned to the last T to gain a huge narrative advantage if the attack was successful.
If there was even slightest of truth to success of attack with even half decent images, the same would have been used by Pakistan to substantiate the success. That didn’t happen indicating it’s failure.

There is nothing wrong in failure of an attack and it does seem to be the case in THIS (THIS) specific case.
I am not talking about other aspects of this skirmish hence the emphasis on failure to neutralise S400.


The problem is you are claiming it..

So far the PAF has been pretty accurate.. you lot not so
 
At least one Indian that assessed things well

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You have again resorted to shenanigans and irrelevant content to make a claim.
What has Modi’s pic to do with S400 being hit successfully.

If chest thumping is the only argument you have, then keeping quite and letting elders to do the discussion may be a better idea.
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