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I suspect one of the reasons why they denied sales of Air Defense Systems to Turkey all those years, was specifically b/c of the Greek and Zionist lobbies.
Greek and Armenian lobby are weak. They lobbied against us for years and nothing come out of it.

However, Jewish lobby is very strong. For years (before Erdogan) they lobbied for us. We used to train Israeli pilots in Turkey/Konya. Then Erdoğan come broke the relations with Israel, simultaneously, our relations with US also broke down.
 
Greek and Armenian lobby are weak. They lobbied against us for years and nothing come out of it.

However, Jewish lobby is very strong. For years (before Erdogan) they lobbied for us. We used to train Israeli pilots in Turkey/Konya. Then Erdoğan come broke the relations with Israel, simultaneously, our relations with US also broke down.

The Zionists will not allow any power to rival theirs in the region, if anyone attempts it, they will be destroyed like Iraq was destroyed, Syria was destroyed, Libya was destroyed, and what they are attempting to do with Iran. Any power that is allowed to "rise"(UAE, Saudi under Bin Salman) will only be allowed to rise under their subservience. Even in that rise, they are still suspicious of the transfer of anything of significance to those states as we saw with the sabotage of the F-35 sales to the UAE.

This idea that Turkey would be able to grow and rise, especially as a regional middle power and the Israelis not try to do anything to curb it, is fantasy.

The Israeli Turkish relationship was borne from a very different era, an era where Turkey was weaker and dependent, with no regional ambitions, as well as when Israel clearly held the higher position in the relations, and it was formed when the rest of the region was hostile towards Israel, namely, Egypt under Nasser, Saudis with Faisal, Iraq with Saddam etc etc. Saddam is dead, Nasser is gone and replaced with a subservient Sisi, dependent on patronage to survive and IMF loans to stay in power, the Gulf Arabs have straight up normalized and the UAE has become a subcontractor to the Zionist policy. In this framework, Turkey is no longer necessary for them, as was evident with them stoking Kurdish separatism in Iraq without a care for the blowback on Turkey, or any consultation. This is way before any rupture in relations with Turkey, and that Kurdish separatism with Barzani began before even the AK Party.

Ultimately what they want is a middle east thats fractured, weak and broken into as many pieces along ethnic and religious lines, and fighting amongst itself while they slowly expand and entrench.
 
Bro, you gotto stop tagging people here and bringing arguments from another thread, into this one, it will just derail the conversation here and create argumentative spam.
I know but, i can't reply in Iranian threads. And i have done really nothing that broke forum rules.
 
@Foinikas

I see you are struggling with Iranians.

You should value Turks.

Just curious. How am I banned for writing that Kazakhstan supplies 60% of Israel’s oil imports? Not only is it a perfectly fine comment, but clearly the treshold for getting banned is much higher. Foinikas don’t seem to have been banned. So basically, I’m banned because that mod don’t like my ethnicity?


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@Waz

Since you are an admin, may I ask how is it possible that a certain mod on this forum bans someone based on their ethnicity, when that user have not done anything that could warrant a ban? Is that the kind of forum defencepk.com is?
 
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I know but, i can't reply in Iranian threads. And i have done really nothing that broke forum rules.

You can file an appeal at GHQ

The admins will review your request and they can overrule if a mod banned you. Generally though you have to follow the rules of the country forums, some are stricter than others, the Turkish forum is a bit more lax than others, but other places may choose to be more strict, so keep that in mind when commenting in other sections.

 
You can file an appeal at GHQ

The admins will review your request and they can overrule if a mod banned you. Generally though you have to follow the rules of the country forums, some are stricter than others, the Turkish forum is a bit more lax than others, but other places may choose to be more strict, so keep that in mind when commenting in other sections.


Useless. I made a thread there, no response after several days.
 
They banned you too... Maybe, it's just because that we are Turks.

Yes, I got banned quickly after making the comment about Kazakh oil supplies to Israel (that was a response to someone else).
 
I don't understand why they expect something from Turkey. For years, we tried to reach them. We wanted their co-operation regarding PKK terrorists. They declined and continue to support PKK. They even gave loitering munitions to bring down our UAVs in Syria. They threatened our brother country, made military drills at the border of Azerbaijan. They even objected to Zengezur corridor between Azerbaijan and Turkey.

They showed nothing but hostility to Turkey and Azerbaijan. Not only to us but to Pakistan and almost all of the Arab countries. They created proxy forces and wreaked havoc in the region. They never ask themselves "Why don't we have a single ally in the region?" But go on with blaming other countries in the region.
 
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