Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

Yasser76 said:
This is the beauty of Chinese equipment, any losses in war can be made up from PLAAF stocks quickly if need be
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I've always thought that CAC should develop a two-seat version based on the J-10C exclusively for the foreign trade market. I.e. J-10CSE or J-10SE.

It is equivalent to a downgraded version of the J-20S. The rear seat is for the Air Combat Tactical Commander (ACTC), who is mainly engaged in air tactical command and UAV coordination and dispatch command.
Of course, the power generation of the WS-10B may not be enough and it may need to use the WS-15 engine.

PLAAF doesn't really need this fighter (we have J-20S and J-16 platforms).
But, it is very tempting to many small and medium sized countries with some economic capability.
 
Michael said:
I've always thought that CAC should develop a two-seat version based on the J-10C exclusively for the foreign trade market. I.e. J-10CSE or J-10SE.

It is equivalent to a downgraded version of the J-20S. The rear seat is for the Air Combat Tactical Commander (ACTC), who is mainly engaged in air tactical command and UAV coordination and dispatch command.
Of course, the power generation of the WS-10B may not be enough and it may need to use the WS-15 engine.

PLAAF doesn't really need this fighter (we have J-20S and J-16 platforms).
But, it is very tempting to many small and medium sized countries with some economic capability.
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I believe that if China upgrades the J-10CE to a "Block 20" version with performance almost similar to the PLAAF version, international interest will increase even more.

By the way, What was the final result of the development of this "J-10D"???
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China’s J-10 Fighter Spotted In New ‘Big Spine’ Configuration (Updated)

The modification to China's J-10 fighter follows along a very similar evolutionary path as its counterpart, the American F-16.
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Nuffle said:
I believe that if China upgrades the J-10CE to a "Block 20" version with performance almost similar to the PLAAF version, international interest will increase even more.
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The foreign trade version of the J-10CE and PLAAF's own version, the J-10C, they have no difference in performance. There is no such thing as a “Block 20” version.
PLAAF's own version of the J-10C has some minor upgrades and tweaks for each production batch. These do not make a significant difference to the actual effectiveness of the fighter.
PAF's 20 J-10CEs were delivered in three lots. Each lot has minor differences and adjustments. This is a normal measure within the general range. Even for fighters that have already been delivered, some minor minor adjustments and upgrades can be made.

The PLAAF's own version of the J-10C is positioned as an air superiority fighter.
The foreign trade version of the J-10CE has a choice of different configuration lists and tuning between air superiority configuration, ground/sea configuration, and multi-mission configuration, depending on customer requirements.
If the customer also chooses the Air Superiority version of the J-10CE, they are no different from the J-10C.
Nuffle said:
By the way, What was the final result of the development of this "J-10D"???
www.twz.com

China’s J-10 Fighter Spotted In New ‘Big Spine’ Configuration (Updated)

The modification to China's J-10 fighter follows along a very similar evolutionary path as its counterpart, the American F-16.
www.twz.com www.twz.com
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The picture you provided a link to is of a J-10CY, which is the exclusive fighter of the PLAAF 8-1 Air Show Team. Due to the special requirements of aerobatic performances, this fighter is a special modification based on the J-10C, not an official model. In addition to minor differences in appearance, the J-10CY is powered by an AL-31 engine instead of the WS-10B. this is related to the power output curves of the two engines.
J-10CY is now officially operational. However, the quantitative needs are minimal. It belongs to the range of special modifications.

It is generally accepted that the J-10D refers to the electronic warfare-specific version of the J-10. It has a large bulge in the belly. Note: J-10D is not an official code. It's what Chinese military fans call it.
The fighter jet was once exposed on the Chinese Internet.
However, PLAAF did not procure the fighter. Because they have J-16D with better performance.
Currently it has no further news. CAC may launch this version to international customers if any foreign customer is interested.
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Michael said:
The foreign trade version of the J-10CE and PLAAF's own version, the J-10C, they have no difference in performance. There is no such thing as a “Block 20” version.
PLAAF's own version of the J-10C has some minor upgrades and tweaks for each production batch. These do not make a significant difference to the actual effectiveness of the fighter.
PAF's 20 J-10CEs were delivered in three lots. Each lot has minor differences and adjustments. This is a normal measure within the general range. Even for fighters that have already been delivered, some minor minor adjustments and upgrades can be made.

The PLAAF's own version of the J-10C is positioned as an air superiority fighter.
The foreign trade version of the J-10CE has a choice of different configuration lists and tuning between air superiority configuration, ground/sea configuration, and multi-mission configuration, depending on customer requirements.
If the customer also chooses the Air Superiority version of the J-10CE, they are no different from the J-10C.

The picture you provided a link to is of a J-10CY, which is the exclusive fighter of the PLAAF 8-1 Air Show Team. Due to the special requirements of aerobatic performances, this fighter is a special modification based on the J-10C, not an official model. In addition to minor differences in appearance, the J-10CY is powered by an AL-31 engine instead of the WS-10B. this is related to the power output curves of the two engines.
J-10CY is now officially operational. However, the quantitative needs are minimal. It belongs to the range of special modifications.

It is generally accepted that the J-10D refers to the electronic warfare-specific version of the J-10. It has a large bulge in the belly. Note: J-10D is not an official code. It's what Chinese military fans call it.
The fighter jet was once exposed on the Chinese Internet.
However, PLAAF did not procure the fighter. Because they have J-16D with better performance.
Currently it has no further news. CAC may launch this version to international customers if any foreign customer is interested.
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Communication is really problematic when you have two users who do not speak English as their primary language.

You see, I said that China could upgrade the J-10 to a version closer to the version used by the PLAAF, using the example of the F-16 Block 20.

But you answered exactly what I wanted to know.
 
Nuffle said:
Communication is really problematic when you have two users who do not speak English as their primary language.
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It's true. So, I usually recount a lot of things and hope that there is no misunderstanding.
Nuffle said:
You see, I said that China could upgrade the J-10 to a version closer to the version used by the PLAAF, using the example of the F-16 Block 20.
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Chinese weapons and equipment upgrades are usually not described in a “Block XX” manner. So I'm not used to expressing myself in this way either.

China generally makes different batches of weaponry with some minor upgrades and tweaks. These will not enable new model codes or make any public statements. They are only known within the military and the military industrial complex. The outside world generally only knows that they are from different batches and that there will be some minor differences.

When China upgrades its weapons and equipment, if the scope of the upgrade is large (such as replacing the radar on a fighter jet), the letter “G” is usually added to the original model code to indicate a major upgrade. The letter “G” is the Hanyu Pinyin abbreviation of the Chinese word for “改进型(improved model)”. For example: J-10BG / J-11BG.

If it's a very significant and revolutionary upgrade, we usually enable the new model code. For example: J-10/A/B/C.
 
iblini said:
Insider said it is for Uzbekistan.

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Was there an announce for this deal? As of 04/18/2025, it seemed to be still debating. Of course, that is right before J-10C's combat debut.
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iblini said:
Insider said it is for Uzbekistan.

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I would have thought it was the 2nd and final batch for Pakistan ? Or are we saying that the PAF deliveries are complete? PAF has 22 as of now, with 14 remaining for delivery to take it to 36 units, ie 2 full squadrons.
 
Ali_Baba said:
I would have thought it was the 2nd and final batch for Pakistan ? Or are we saying that the PAF deliveries are complete? PAF has 22 as of now, with 14 remaining for delivery to take it to 36 units, ie 2 full squadrons.
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I think PAF has 20...not 22.
 
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