China, Pakistan oppose India’s bid for permanent seat at UNSC; supports ‘special case’ of Africa

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China, Pakistan oppose India’s bid for permanent seat at UNSC; supports ‘special case’ of Africa​

Showing no sign of supporting India's demand, on the other hand, India's hostile neighbour, China in a veiled criticism of India and the G4 said that few countries and Interest groups focus on individual interests rather than council reform.​


Junaid Dar Published: 13 Aug 2024 16:51:PM

New Delhi: As India is trying to secure a long-term seat at the United Nations Security Council (UNSC), Pakistan and China have expressed their wish against the demand. Pakistan supported Africa’s demand for a long-term seat at the UNSC but reportedly opposed the same for India.

Showing no sign of supporting India’s demand, on the other hand, India’s hostile neighbour, China in a veiled criticism of India and the G4 said that few countries and Interest groups focus on individual interests rather than council reform.

Munir Akram, the permanent representative of Pakistan, also a member of Uniting for Consensus (UFC), a coalition of nations opposing the expansion of permanent seats, reportedly remained silent on India’s demand, showing diplomatic opposition to India’s interest but expressed his support to Africa saying that Africa’s demand can be considered a special case. The call to treat Africa’s case as a “special case” has raised questions about the broader reform process.

Opposing India’s demand in the council, China’s Permanent Representative Fu Cong criticised India and the G4, mentioning that there were “a few countries and interest groups who pursue their own selfish and small-circle interests when it comes to Council reform”.

Africa, home to over 1.3 billion people and 28% of the UN’s membership, also remains without permanent representation. This disparity in the council has fueled a growing call for reform, with Sierra Leone, holding the rotating presidency of the Council, spearheading the charge for change.

India, a vocal advocate for a reformed UN Security Council, stands in solidarity with Africa’s demands. India’s Permanent Representative to the UN, Ruchira Kamboj, affirmed the G-4’s commitment to supporting Africa’s “legitimate demands” and pledged to ensure Africa’s “rightful place” in a reformed multilateral system. The G-4, comprising India, Brazil, Germany and Japan, has been a driving force behind expanding the Council and sees Africa’s inclusion as crucial to achieving that goal. The upcoming Summit of the Future in September and the UN’s 80th anniversary next year mark critical milestones for the UN.
 
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The world doesn't want to see another American pawn be allowed into UNSC, if India is allowed to become one, Britain and France have to give up theirs.
 
Beijingwalker said:

China, Pakistan oppose India’s bid for permanent seat at UNSC; supports ‘special case’ of Africa​

Showing no sign of supporting India's demand, on the other hand, India's hostile neighbour, China in a veiled criticism of India and the G4 said that few countries and Interest groups focus on individual interests rather than council reform.​


Junaid Dar Published: 13 Aug 2024 16:51:PM

New Delhi: As India is trying to secure a long-term seat at the United Nations Security Council (UNSC), Pakistan and China have expressed their wish against the demand. Pakistan supported Africa’s demand for a long-term seat at the UNSC but reportedly opposed the same for India.

Showing no sign of supporting India’s demand, on the other hand, India’s hostile neighbour, China in a veiled criticism of India and the G4 said that few countries and Interest groups focus on individual interests rather than council reform.

Munir Akram, the permanent representative of Pakistan, also a member of Uniting for Consensus (UFC), a coalition of nations opposing the expansion of permanent seats, reportedly remained silent on India’s demand, showing diplomatic opposition to India’s interest but expressed his support to Africa saying that Africa’s demand can be considered a special case. The call to treat Africa’s case as a “special case” has raised questions about the broader reform process.

Opposing India’s demand in the council, China’s Permanent Representative Fu Cong criticised India and the G4, mentioning that there were “a few countries and interest groups who pursue their own selfish and small-circle interests when it comes to Council reform”.

Africa, home to over 1.3 billion people and 28% of the UN’s membership, also remains without permanent representation. This disparity in the council has fueled a growing call for reform, with Sierra Leone, holding the rotating presidency of the Council, spearheading the charge for change.

India, a vocal advocate for a reformed UN Security Council, stands in solidarity with Africa’s demands. India’s Permanent Representative to the UN, Ruchira Kamboj, affirmed the G-4’s commitment to supporting Africa’s “legitimate demands” and pledged to ensure Africa’s “rightful place” in a reformed multilateral system. The G-4, comprising India, Brazil, Germany and Japan, has been a driving force behind expanding the Council and sees Africa’s inclusion as crucial to achieving that goal. The upcoming Summit of the Future in September and the UN’s 80th anniversary next year mark critical milestones for the UN.
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Why WOULD Pakistan support india's bid to become a member of the UNSC???????????.................................. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: ...........................indians are the FOREVER eternal enemies of the Pakistani nation and people who call for our death and destruction................ supporting their bid would be like the Palestinians supporting the israeli genocide in Gaza..................................:cautious::cautious::cautious::cautious::cautious::cautious:
 
China will oppose G4 to UNSC members as long as Japan is in it, no doubt, no way.
 
Beijingwalker said:
The world doesn't want to see another American pawn be allowed into UNSC, if India is allowed to become one, Britain and France have to give up theirs.
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The world - not only meant for china and Pakistan. Thanks

UNSC is only effective against small and powerless nations, A country with some power, does not care it much - they can't do much

The existing scenarios might be been useful in the 1900s, now it is a useless
 
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Beijingwalker said:
The world doesn't want to see another American pawn be allowed into UNSC, if India is allowed to become one, Britain and France have to give up theirs.
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well the world does not see through the narrow chinese narrative (eyes). if there is a reform, India will make it to the permanent membership.. anyway the UNSC is more or less defunct for long time..
 
India is a hindutva extremist state, with a open unresolved conflict in Kashmir

The U.N security council needs to be reformed, so it can have representation from Africa, the Muslim world, Arabs, south Asian Muslims,.south America etc etc


It doesn't need nations like India with delusions of grandeur adding to the mess of the U.N security council
 
hussain0216 said:
India is a hindutva extremist state, with a open unresolved conflict in Kashmir

The U.N security council needs to be reformed, so it can have representation from Africa, the Muslim world, Arabs, south Asian Muslims,.south America etc etc


It doesn't need nations like India with delusions of grandeur adding to the mess of the U.N security council
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without India - will not going to happen.... any reform, India must will be there
 
hussain0216 said:
India is a hindutva extremist state, with a open unresolved conflict in Kashmir

The U.N security council needs to be reformed, so it can have representation from Africa, the Muslim world, Arabs, south Asian Muslims,.south America etc etc


It doesn't need nations like India with delusions of grandeur adding to the mess of the U.N security council
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without India - is not going to happen....

Muslims-Hindua topic - only Limited to Pakistan about India
 
Raj-Hindustani said:
without India - will not going to happen.... any reform, India must will be there
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Any country involved in a open conflict should be excluded for the moment, any country that poses a massive risk to segments of its own population or the surrounding states should also be excluded

India is all of those things

Speaking generally however, India with a population of 1.4 billion people should have representation

But then so should Pakistan with 250 million
Bangladesh with 200 million

The Muslim world needs representation with over 2 billion

Arabs need representation with multiple states and hundreds of millions

Africa needs representation with hundreds of millions etc


The list goes on
We need U.N reform, we need a end to the U.N security council in it's current form


All India wants to do is add to the current biased crap of the security council because it's has delusions of grandeur, it doesn't really care about U.N development etc

And India with it's hindutva delusions is dangerous for south Asia, so India's entry into the current system is INTOLERABLE and only change of the system to represent the world more effectively is acceptable and the big powers won't allow it
 
hussain0216 said:
India is a hindutva extremist state, with a open unresolved conflict in Kashmir

The U.N security council needs to be reformed, so it can have representation from Africa, the Muslim world, Arabs, south Asian Muslims,.south America etc etc


It doesn't need nations like India with delusions of grandeur adding to the mess of the U.N security council
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Surprisingly, you didn’t go into much detail about the representation of Machar Colony in Karachi or Model Town in Lahore.

The next expansion, whenever it happens, will likely be based on economics and geopolitics, and there are very few non-UNSC members competing with us on that front.
 
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