China’s AI Chip Deficit: Why Huawei Can’t Catch Nvidia and US Export Controls Should Remain

Bit like when china bought a few su35s from Russia even tho china had 5th gen
This is to balance the trade surplus in imports and exports and to use up some of Russia's ruble foreign exchange.

Previously, six sets of S400 air defense systems were purchased for the same reason. Now these air defense systems should be with the Blue Army units.
 
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US lawmakers ask whether Nvidia CEO's smuggling remarks misled regulators​

March 25, 20262:07 AM GMT+8Updated 8 hours ago

SAN FRANCISCO, March 24 (Reuters) - Two U.S. senators have asked U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick to investigate whether remarks by Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang may have misled U.S. officials and influenced their decision to grant Nvidia licenses to send its AI chips to ‌China.
 

China’s DeepSeek trained its AI model on Nvidia’s best chip despite US ban​


WASHINGTON – Chinese artificial intelligence start-up DeepSeek’s latest AI model, set to be released as soon as next week, was trained on Nvidia’s most advanced AI chip, the Blackwell, a senior Trump administration official said on Feb 23, in what could represent a violation of US export controls.

The US believes DeepSeek will remove the technical indicators that might reveal its use of American AI chips, the official said, adding that the Blackwells are likely clustered at its data centre in Inner Mongolia, an autonomous region of China.

The official declined to say how the US government received the information or how DeepSeek obtained the chips, but emphasised that US policy is: “We’re not shipping Blackwells to China.”

Nvidia declined to comment, while the Commerce Department and DeepSeek did not respond to requests for comment.

The Chinese Embassy in Washington said Beijing opposes “drawing ideological lines, overstretching the concept of national security, expansive use of export controls and politicising economic, trade and technological issues”.

The news, not previously reported, could further divide Washington policymakers as they struggle to determine where to draw the line on Chinese access to the crown jewels of American AI semiconductor chips.

China hawks fear the chips could easily be diverted from commercial uses to supercharge China’s military and threaten US dominance in AI.
 
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US lawmakers ask whether Nvidia CEO's smuggling remarks misled regulators​

March 25, 20262:07 AM GMT+8Updated 8 hours ago

SAN FRANCISCO, March 24 (Reuters) - Two U.S. senators have asked U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick to investigate whether remarks by Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang may have misled U.S. officials and influenced their decision to grant Nvidia licenses to send its AI chips to ‌China.

Jensen Huang says it's 'lunacy' to compare selling chips to China to selling nukes to North Korea​

Apr 17, 2026, 12:02 AM GMT+8
  • Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang offered a fiery defense of his push to sell chips in China.
  • Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei previously wrote that such sales were like selling nukes to North Korea.
  • Huang said the US doesn't want a world where its tech stack is used only for closed-source models.
Huang, who has repeatedly defended his belief that US companies should be able to sell advanced chips in China, didn't take kindly to Amodei comparing such sales to "selling nuclear weapons to North Korea and then bragging that the missile casings are made by Boeing" in a recent essay.

When tech podcaster Dwarkesh Patel mentioned Amodei's quote during a recent episode of the "Dwarkesh Podcast," Huang immediately pushed back.

"Comparing AI to anything that you just mentioned is lunacy," Huang said.

"We're not enriched uranium. It's a chip, and it's a chip that they can make themselves," Huang said.

Amodei did not mention Nvidia or Huang by name in his January essay, but it was clear who he was writing about, given the Nvidia CEO's persistent lobbying. The pair have clashed before, but tensions seemed to be improving after Nvidia announced in November that it could invest up to $10 billion in Anthropic as part of a partnership between Nvidia, Anthropic, and Microsoft.

Ultimately, Huang said, the arguments call for the US to concede "the second largest market in the world for no good reason at all." The Nvidia CEO said he's concerned about a world where closed-source models are dominant in the US but open-source models, which are extremely popular in China, have their own space.

"It would be extremely foolish to create two ecosystems: the open source ecosystem, and it only runs on a foreign tech stack, and a closed ecosystem that runs on the American tech stack," Huang said. "I think that would be a horrible outcome for the United States."
 

China AI firm reveals $92M of banned Nvidia chip servers: report​

  • Hours after the United States charged a Super Micro Computer (SMCI) co-founder with illegally smuggling billions of dollars’ worth of Nvidia (NVDA) AI chips to China, shares of a little-known Shenzhen-based computing company plummeted by the daily limit of 20%, according to a Bloomberg report.

  • Sharetronic Data Technology Co., which is setting up AI data centers across the Asian country, said immediately after the plunge that it complies with regulations for hardware purchases. The company also assured investors it doesn’t have “any business cooperation or relationship” with Super Micro, the report added.

  • Records filed with Chinese government agencies suggest Sharetronic procured hundreds of Super Micro systems containing high-end Nvidia chips, which have been banned from unauthorized sale to and within China, according to the report.

  • But the two invoices from May and June — documenting sales from Sharetronic to a subsidiary it had recently established — named two specific types of servers: the 276 Super Micro systems that use Nvidia H100 and H200 chips, plus a smaller batch of 32 Dell (DELL) products dubbed the PowerEdge XE9680.
 
According to Jensen Huang, China's AI chip market represents 40% of the global total.

Letting China's domestic chip markers to capture the entire market will be biggest strategic mistake for the US AI industry.

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According to Jensen Huang, China's AI chip market represents 40% of the global total.

Letting China's domestic chip markers to capture the entire market will be biggest strategic mistake for the US AI industry.

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That's like saying foreign companies should sell China cars to prevent them from creating a domestic car industry good enough to start exporting.
 
What he meant is NVidia has a virtual monopoly on GPU programming platform and software called CUDA. Which is unlike car, when buyer can easily switch away from.

CUDA is sort of like Windows monopoly of PC OS.

It is something that is hard to move or switch away from once everybody get used to it.

But it would happen when someone is banned from using it, then alternative would be made, and it could one day even eat away the market of the current sole monopoly.
 
What he meant is NVidia has a virtual monopoly on GPU programming platform and software called CUDA. Which is unlike car, when buyer can easily switch away from.

CUDA is sort of like Windows monopoly of PC OS.

It is something that is hard to move or switch away from once everybody get used to it.

But it would happen when someone is banned from using it, then alternative would be made, and it could one day even eat away the market of the current sole monopoly.

As if China's long term plan was to rely on foreign software like CUDA?
Give me a break! You know full well it is on a target list...just like every other piece of critical software.
 
That's like saying foreign companies should sell China cars to prevent them from creating a domestic car industry good enough to start exporting.

From 2005-2020, the Chinese car market was controlled by GM and VW, and see what happens now when the Chinese carmakers are becoming dominant in its domestic car market.
 
As if China's long term plan was to rely on foreign software like CUDA?
Give me a break! You know full well it is on a target list...just like every other piece of critical software.
Well, you can say that similarly, China would/should not depend on Windows OS.

But if Windows OS is not banned, it would be hard to move the market by Gov't directive alone because of no. of complains its going to get.

Long term China probably should/would be planning to move away even from Windows OS given how the US gov't has proven to behave like.

Banning is short term good for US, but long term bad.
 


Google developing inference AI chips to rival Nvidia​

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Google is developing new chips dedicated to AI inference in partnership with Marvell Technology, positioning Alphabet to more directly compete with Nvidia in a semiconductor category driven by surging demand for AI software, according to Bloomberg.

After a model is trained, inference is the stage where it actually does its job — fielding queries and producing outputs. Google plans to announce a new generation of its tensor processing units, known as TPUs, at the Google Cloud Next conference in Las Vegas this week, with inference-focused chips expected to follow.

"The battleground is shifting towards inference," Gartner analyst Chirag Dekate told Bloomberg. Google Chief Scientist Jeff Dean said in an interview that as AI demand grows, "it now becomes sensible to specialize chips more for training or more for inference workloads."

Amin Vahdat, who oversees Google's AI infrastructure and chip work, declined to comment on specific inference chip plans but said more details would likely be shared "in the relatively near future."

According to Partha Ranganathan, a vice president and engineering fellow at the company, Google weighed the idea of distinct training and inference chips in its early days before ultimately deciding against it. That approach may be changing as the broader AI spending cycle shifts from training toward inference workloads.

Entering the inference market, Google can draw on advantages built over years of in-house chip development, substantial revenue from its search business, and an unusually close relationship with the AI models its hardware is meant to run. No other leading AI developer manufactures its own chips at comparable volume, a structural edge that tightens the loop between the people building Google's models and those designing the silicon they run on.

Demand for Google's TPUs has grown substantially. Meta struck a multibillion-dollar agreement to procure TPUs via Google Cloud, and Santosh Janardhan, who leads Meta's infrastructure operations, said that initial results point to possible performance gains on inference tasks. Anthropic, which expanded its TPU access to as many as 1 million chips, also signed a separate deal with Broadcom — Google's TPU manufacturing partner — for chips enabling roughly 3.5 gigawatts of computing power starting in 2027.

A person familiar with the matter told Bloomberg that Google has been piloting an arrangement under which enterprise customers, Anthropic among them, could deploy TPU hardware on-premises instead of relying solely on Google's cloud infrastructure. The company has also opened TPU access to outside tools such as PyTorch, moving away from a purely proprietary software environment.
 
Well, you can say that similarly, China would/should not depend on Windows OS.

But if Windows OS is not banned, it would be hard to move the market by Gov't directive alone because of no. of complains its going to get.

Long term China probably should/would be planning to move away even from Windows OS given how the US gov't has proven to behave like.

Banning is short term good for US, but long term bad.
Moving to a new OS can help China reduce dependence, but it also accelerates disintegration with other countries. Nobody's going to massively adopt a Chinese OS without receiving huge subsidies from China, either in terms of economic aid or actual meaningful tech transfer. East Asia's, and especially Korea and Taiwan's, rise in semiconductors and their interconnection with the West, and especially the US ecosystem, has had a lot to do with US's tech transfer to the region.
 
Moving to a new OS can help China reduce dependence, but it also accelerates disintegration with other countries. Nobody's going to massively adopt a Chinese OS without receiving huge subsidies from China, either in terms of economic aid or actual meaningful tech transfer. East Asia's, and especially Korea and Taiwan's, rise in semiconductors and their interconnection with the West, and especially the US ecosystem, has had a lot to do with US's tech transfer to the region.

China's semiconductor right now it is running on China's domestic ecosystem without having any American/European/Japanese/South Korean/Taiwanese technologies.

China is only waiting for its domestic EUV to become ready to shatter the AI chip supremacy of the US, since the DUV only ensures China's independence from the US extortion tactics, but the EUV will be the truly status quo breaker.

However, the US cannot break China's rare earth restriction either, and by keep escalating the tech war, China might use more restriction on the civilian technologies on the US.

PS, China's home OS market is big enough as most Chinese companies are fearing the data leak by the us spywares, so they won't trust any US or western OS anymore.

China's home market is big enough to feed its domestic OS.

China has still not used the maximum pressure on the US like Trump has already done.
 

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