Chinese 6th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[iblini]

The Indian has just woken up.

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[That_Guy]

The true knowledgeable and unbiased channel is Millennium 7*.

I like him too, and he's super knowledgeable, but I don't always agree with his takes.

 

[FHN]

The Indian has just woken up.

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Not only the Indians, even Americans are visibility frustrated after china flew 6th generation aircraft today haha.

 

[iblini]

The numbers of flaps on the wingtip, the flight control engineers are going to be bald soon.

PS: Bye to my J35 avatar, I have a new lover now.

 

[That_Guy]

Someone please correct me, I think I read a post, few years ago by Yang Wei (if I recall correctly) based on his interview. In this interview, he discussed the concept of an 'aircraft family' for the Next Generation Fighter. If this is the case, we might see several different 6th-generation aircraft designed for specific roles, rather than just two or three types.

It could be a series of loyal wingman drones per 6th gen aircraft.

We know one of the main basic characteristics is supposed to be this, so it would fit into the "aircraft family" idea.

The USAF 6th gen is supposed to have up to 6 loyal wingman drones accompanying one 6th gen fighter. We could see China have a similar concept in mind. Over the coming years, we could hear about potential new loyal wingman prototypes for China's 6th gen.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

It could be a series of loyal wingman drones per 6th gen aircraft.

We know one of the main basic characteristics is supposed to be this, so it would fit into the "aircraft family" idea.

The USAF 6th gen is supposed to have up to 6 loyal wingman drones accompanying one 6th gen fighter. We could see China have a similar concept in mind. Over the coming years, we could hear about potential new loyal wingman prototypes for China's 6th gen.

Dear It just clicked in my mind that SAC and CAC models seem to be optimized for different roles. So, first, let me (or someone else) find what he (Yang Wei) actually said, and then we can debate this possibility. It could be as you said or something else. I am trying to search for it but haven't found it yet, and I am also not sure if it is something else that he talked about and I misunderstood. I don't want to spread misinformation, so apologies for being a little cautious.

What I found so far is this:

In an interview with China Daily, Yang Wei, the chief designer of the J-20, stated that designers will develop variants of the radar-evading J-20 and will open research on its successor – a sixth-generation fighter jet.

He specifically said:

• "We are not complacent about what we have achieved. We will develop the J-20 into a large family and keep strengthening its information-processing and intelligent capacities."

This indicates a future where the J-20 might evolve into a family of aircraft, potentially optimized for different roles such as air superiority, strike, electronic warfare, or even unmanned operations.

 

[dbc]

Three engines absolutely indicates engine turbine issues. Higher costs, higher maintenance, reduced payloads.

China is likely many years behind US state of the art three stream adaptive cycle engines which will almost certainly be on NGAD aircraft.

lol that's a lot of assumptions. Three engines can mean a lot of things, Dassault Mirage IV and Sukhoi T-4 had three engines. And the reason the designers of the above choose a three engine configuration was as follows.

1. both aircraft were designed for the dual role of fighter/ strategic bomber. the heavier payload required the added thrust of a third engine.
2.Weight distribution or space constraints.
3. Redundancy

I appreciate the originality of the new Chinese fighter. I assume this thing will require power for energy weapons, perhaps laser, EMP and that could explain the third engine.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

The US HAS flown NGAD prototypes, there’s no maybe about it.

And you make the false assumption that a Chinese 5th gen fighter is equal to an American one.

I have no doubt that NGAD is more advanced than anything China can produce, and the USAF Secretary holds the same assessment.

Calm down buddy! You seem to be in real shock.

 

[Bilal]

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[FHN]

It could be a series of loyal wingman drones per 6th gen aircraft.

We know one of the main basic characteristics is supposed to be this, so it would fit into the "aircraft family" idea.

The USAF 6th gen is supposed to have up to 6 loyal wingman drones accompanying one 6th gen fighter. We could see China have a similar concept in mind. Over the coming years, we could hear about potential new loyal wingman prototypes for China's 6th gen.

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China has something in place called gj-11. ucav is reportedly over 10 Tons

 

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[iblini]

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China has something in place called gj-11. ucav is reportedly over 10 Tons

GJ-11 is designated for navy LHD.

 

[Ali_Baba]

The US HAS flown NGAD prototypes, there’s no maybe about it.

And you make the false assumption that a Chinese 5th gen fighter is equal to an American one.

I have no doubt that NGAD is more advanced than anything China can produce, and the USAF Secretary holds the same assessment.

Please create an NGAD thread and prove it.

Every article I had read about NGAD is bad news with the airforce drawing back on the programme to potentially cancelling it in some reports.

The programme is paused as per below link and they are confused on how to proceed with it. NGAD sounds like a intellectually rudderless ship with no sense of direction and purpose as of now… read this link..

Why the Air Force Paused NGAD—And What’s Next | Air & Space Forces Magazine

What kind of aircraft the Air Force needs, what it can afford, and how long it will be before that aircraft is available all hang in the balance.

www.airandspaceforces.com

You can set the facts as you see them on a new thread…..

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

The ignorance and misinformation around US NGAD programs is pretty incredible. I guarantee you the engineers at Lockheed Skunk Works are having a laugh today.

First give me solid evidence/source/links that review is complete and NGAD project will continue within its current status and with adaptive cycle engine? I ask you a same question few pages before

 

[Falcon26]

These are very neat designs, no doubt, but I wonder the effectiveness of the engines. We all know China was working on 6th generation engines but I wonder if the Chinese are anywhere near a fieldable 6th generation propulsion systems.