Chinese Economy: General News, Updates and Discussions

[ChineseTiger1986]

From my understanding, judging by the frequent military exercises and close military collaborations with the two countries and also close gov relations with them, Pakistan and Russia can be classified as informal strategic allies of China. NK is a formal ally bound by treaty.

Pakistan yes, but Russia is just a business partner.

NK is China's doorstep, and China has no choice to protect them.

 

[ety]

Pakistan yes, but Russia is just a business partner.

NK is China's doorstep, and China has no choice to protect them.

Chinese Foreign Ministry not long ago said that the cooperation between China and Russia has no limits but has bottom lines. So, if Russia is invaded say by NATO, I think China will get involved at least providing lots military assistance to them, and if war breaks out between China and US/Japan, I expect Russia to provide military support to China too. The Google AI defines Russia as the critical strategic partner for China, together the two oppose US/NATO hegemony and provide world stability.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Chinese Foreign Ministry not long ago said that the cooperation between China and Russia has no limits but has bottom lines. So, if Russia is invaded say by NATO, I think China will get involved at least providing lots military assistance to them, and if war breaks out between China and US/Japan, I expect Russia to provide military support to China too. The Google AI defines Russia as the most critical strategic partner for China, together the two oppose US/NATO hegemony and provide world stability.

I don't think they should say something like that, especially from the ministry of foreign affairs.

If China truly treats Russia as a strategic ally, then it should have cut off all drone supply chain for Ukraine.

Vice versa, Russia would also not waste an opportunity to supply China's regional opponent like India.

 

[ety]

I don't think they should say something like that, especially from the ministry of foreign affairs.

If China truly treats Russia as a strategic ally, then it should have cut off all drone supply chain for Ukraine.

Vice versa, Russia would also not waste an opportunity to supply China's regional opponent like India.

Well, Russia is the aggressor in the Ukraine war, not a pure defensive war for Russia, eventhough China understands the difficult situation Russia was at before the war starts, Russia was cornered by NATO. So, China as a peaceful nation can't fully support Russia esp militarily in this case. There are frequent close strategic coordination between the two as you can see.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Well, Russia is the aggressor in the Ukraine war, not a pure defensive war for Russia, eventhough China understands the difficult situation Russia was at before the war starts, Russia was cornered by NATO. So, China as a peaceful nation can't fully support Russia esp militarily in this case.

We just need to maintain our distance with Russia, just to treat them as a normal business partner. That's it.

Russia doesn't want to see China becoming too dominant to completely overshadow the US, nor China wants to see Russia to become a second Soviet Union.

 

[ety]

We just need to maintain our distance with Russia, just to treat them as a normal business partner. That's it.

Russia doesn't want to see China becoming too dominant to completely overshadow the US, nor China wants to see Russia to become a second Soviet Union.

Yeah, there are still differences between the two and trust is probably not 100% all the time as can be seen Russia brought India into SCO to balance out China that made the security org effectively paralyzed now because of India.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yeah, there are still differences between the two and trust is probably not 100% all the time as can be seen Russia brought India into SCO to balance out China that made the security org effectively paralyzed now because of India.

Russia would feel okay to treat us as a big North Korea, also sometimes as their henchman or canon fodder.

However, Russia now doesn't feel comfortable to see China starting to humiliate the US in military technology row after row.

They believe that both Americans and Russians are the superior white christians to be the two major global players, and they can sometimes fight each other as long as it is not completely detrimental to the entire white race. And other non-white nations should be the pawns from both side in their private white hegemonic game.

Whether Russia as the communist or the capitalist has the same mentality, and they and the Americans are basically the two sides of the same coin.

China shouldn't trust them, nor sharing any technology with them.

 

[ety]

Russia would feel okay to treat us as a big North Korea, also sometimes as their henchman or canon fodder.

However, Russia now doesn't feel comfortable to see China starting to humiliate the US in military technology row after row.

They believe that both Americans and Russians are the superior white christians to be the two major global players, and they can sometimes fight each other as long as it is not completely detrimental to the entire white race. And other non-white nations should be the pawns of each side in their hegemonic game.

Whether Russia as the communist or the capitalist has the same mentality.

Yes, Russia would like China nothing more than an extra large size North Korea, some Russians including some on the forum are even expecting China to send soldiers to fight for them in the Ukraine war. China is not the 1950s country like during the Korean war time when China has no good choices and weight. It's probably true that Russians prefer to cooperate with the white Americans and Europeans, but the problem now is Americans and Europeans won't accept Russians as white Europeans.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yes, Russia would like China nothing more than an extra large size North Korea, some Russians including some on the forum are even expecting China to send soldiers to fight for them in the Ukraine war. China is not the 1950s country like during the Korean war time when China has no good choices and weight. It's probably true that Russians prefer to cooperate with the white Americans and Europeans, but the problem now is Americans and Europeans won't accept Russians as white Europeans.

Whether Russia got accepted by the the white world is none of our business, and we shouldn't change our stance toward Russia whether they become communist or capitalist.

China's national security can only be guaranteed by China's own power, not by cooperation with another country.

 

[ety]

Whether Russia got accepted by the the white world is none of our business, and we shouldn't change our stance toward Russia whether they become communist or capitalist.

China's national security can only be guaranteed by China's own power, not by cooperation with another country.

That's the bottom line for China.

 

[Yellow is Okay]

It's probably true that Russians prefer to cooperate with the white Americans and Europeans, but the problem now is Americans and Europeans won't accept Russians as white Europeans.

It's more like state propaganda to create a distinct and unified state identity. And there are many majority Slavic countries now in the EU and even NATO. Russia keeps acting like Slavic people are discriminated against by Europeans and Americans, but that's really only a Russian problem.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

That's the bottom line for China.

Just like other western nations, they would not even come closer to China especially China is making the white man hegemony precarious like never seeing before.

However, now they suddenly jump off the board from the US because they feel a completely unhinged leader like Trump gonna act something very suicidal that could potentially bring them down altogether.

And Russia right now is too powerless to make any change to the world except their cold war nuclear stockpile.

If Russia got 50% of China's power, all European nations would have already run to Moscow, not to Beijing.

Because for them, Russia is still their fellow white christians who can be trusted.

Therefore, I don't buy the baloney like 'the US and Europe don't treat Russia as their fellow white christians'.

They all recognize Russians as their fellow white men, but the real problem of the white men civil is because who can become the true leader for the white world?

The Russians believe that they are the most superior white people with most blonde and blue eyes, and they should become the leader of the white world, and other fellow white brothers should follow their leader.

However, the WASP is the current leader of the western world, no way they can abdicate their throne to the Russians. In the eyes, the Russians are assimilable white people, and should learn English and become part of their gene pool, but not condescending over them with the Russian culture and language.

But of course, sometimes the brotherly war can also turn into fatal consequence.

Both Russia and Ukraine end up with near WW2 level of casualties, and many MAGA are pissed off of seeing white men dying like that, and they want to see this happening in East Asia, not in the white Europe.

 

[ety]

It's more like state propaganda to create a distinct and unified state identity. And there are many majority Slavic countries now in the EU and even NATO. Russia keeps acting like Slavic people are discriminated against by Europeans and Americans, but that's really only a Russian problem.

Russia was ruled by Mongol Empire for few hundred years, many Europeans think Russians are not pure white Europeans. Plus Russia has thousands of nukes and huge land mass and large population, the Europeans don't feel safe next to such country.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

It's more like state propaganda to create a distinct and unified state identity. And there are many majority Slavic countries now in the EU and even NATO. Russia keeps acting like Slavic people are discriminated against by Europeans and Americans, but that's really only a Russian problem.

Not really, all Slavic people are viewed as assimilable whites by most Americans and Europeans.

You can see that nearly all Trump children got Slavic blood, except Tiffany.

Russia was just an old era white european colonist nation like the others.

With Soviet Union was using the communism as the proxy, but still acted the same way as the Tsarist Russia.

East Asians are truly the most discriminated target in the white nations, because we look completely different from them, also we can outsmart them altogether.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Russia was ruled by Mongol Empire for few hundred years, many Europeans think Russians are not pure white Europeans. Plus Russia has thousands of nukes and huge land mass and large population, the Europeans don't feel safe next to such country.

Russians are viewed as 100% white by most Americans and Europeans.

Just don't get fooled by their private white hegemonic competition and brotherly rivalry.

If it wasn't China got too strong, they would have already ganged up together to attack China.

The primary objective of Trump's first term was to team up with Russia to attack China.