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do you love chairman Mao ?
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My opinion on him is neutral, half anf half, A great leader in the Chinese history who reshaped the Chinese nation with self respect, national confidence, unity and dignity, forever changed the phyche and mentality of the Chinese nation which had been fettered by old feudalist thought and superstition based customs for thousands of years.
He indeed also made some grave mistakes in his power struggle with his political rivals which cause big damage to the country, but if you look at him with a longer view, from the perspective of the whole history, those mistakes were just some short term, minor setbacks, he laid the foundation, levelled the ground for his successors to be able to embark on the path of smooth and fast development. He also mentally prepared the nation for the future undertaking.
 
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For me it's 70% right and 30% experimental with Maoist ideas and he made sure the outdated philosophies and traditions that made China weak and pathetic are gone for the next generation. Xi Jinping is following of Maoist ideas.
 
When foreigners think of Mao, they only focus on the mistakes he made, oblivious to the fundamental reforms Mao brought to the Chinese nation and what China was like before Mao due to the lack of knowledge on the Chinese culture and history.
 
MCK said:
It is a cult of personality created by the propaganda system
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Mao has passed away for half a century already, and his credits and faults have also been discussed openly in China for many decades, now, 50 years after his death, people have a better and more objective view about him. Now we have the internet, all informations on him, good and bad, are accessible easily.
 
Beijingwalker said:
When foreigners think of Mao, they only focus on the mistakes he made, oblivious to the fundamental reforms Mao brought to the Chinese nation and what China was like before Mao due to the lack of knowledge on the Chinese culture and history.
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I will be honest here, I don't have a dog in this debate, if the people of China want to culturally find themselves and return to their socialist roots more power to them, the issue I see here is how will this impact China's image as a business hub and FDI (1) and will it create rifts between foreign business willing to do business in/with China(2).

For number 2, frankly China is far to large and far to important a player to neglect now, yes you have the likes of Nigera, India, Vietnam et.al offering cheap labor and BPO but that is paltry compared to just how much goods are made and churned out of China, so I don't think there will be much impact to China on the business front.

Finally you raise an excellent point about Mao. In 1995 I had the distinct pleasure to watch a Chinese movie titled To Live, this movie etched an image in my mind which I can clearly recall as the day I watched it on our tiny TV in our living room.

The film center's around the cultural revolution, and the XU family, the father was a degenerate gamble who loses all his wealth including their family home gambling, the families lives are upended but somehow showing impressive resolve the family somehow survive in difficult conditions.

Suffering multiple miscarriages the wife finally has a son who she names (can't remember the Chinese Name) but his English name was "Little Bun", little bun loves watching this shadow puppet show in which the local merchant tells stories of old Chinese legends, eventually the merchant gifts these metal puppets to Little Bun, these puppets are his treasure and in many scenes bun can be seen playing with them.

The next portion of the movie focused on the family comfortably living they again face pressures and the demands of "the Great Leap Forward", a period starting in the late 1950s that asked citizens to contribute to the country’s economic reconstruction.

The Xus hand over metal pots and anything else that might help the cause. It becomes evident Little Bun in particular fully adopted the state ideology when he points out the metal in his father’s box of shadow puppets; it could be smelted down into the two bullets that finally “liberate Taiwan.”

The reason I write this long slightly sentimental post is because nationalism is not a curse word, being proud of your nation and sacrificing self for the greater good is a noble cause. So if the Chinese wish to rediscover their socialist roots, more power to them.
 
RescueRanger said:
I will be honest here, I don't have a dog in this debate, if the people of China want to culturally find themselves and return to their socialist roots more power to them, the issue I see here is how will this impact China's image as a business hub and FDI (1) and will it create rifts between foreign business willing to do business in/with China(2).

For number 2, frankly China is far to large and far to important a player to neglect now, yes you have the likes of Nigera, India, Vietnam et.al offering cheap labor and BPO but that is paltry compared to just how much goods are made and churned out of China, so I don't think there will be much impact to China on the business front.

Finally you raise an excellent point about Mao. In 1995 I had the distinct pleasure to watch a Chinese movie titled To Live, this movie etched an image in my mind which I can clearly recall as the day I watched it on our tiny TV in our living room.

The film center's around the cultural revolution, and the XU family, the father was a degenerate gamble who loses all his wealth including their family home gambling, the families lives are upended but somehow showing impressive resolve the family somehow survive in difficult conditions.

Suffering multiple miscarriages the wife finally has a son who she names (can't remember the Chinese Name) but his English name was "Little Bun", little bun loves watching this shadow puppet show in which the local merchant tells stories of old Chinese legends, eventually the merchant gifts these metal puppets to Little Bun, these puppets are his treasure and in many scenes bun can be seen playing with them.

The next portion of the movie focused on the family comfortably living they again face pressures and the demands of "the Great Leap Forward", a period starting in the late 1950s that asked citizens to contribute to the country’s economic reconstruction.

The Xus hand over metal pots and anything else that might help the cause. It becomes evident Little Bun in particular fully adopted the state ideology when he points out the metal in his father’s box of shadow puppets; it could be smelted down into the two bullets that finally “liberate Taiwan.”

The reason I write this long slightly sentimental post is because nationalism is not a curse word, being proud of your nation and sacrificing self for the greater good is a noble cause. So if the Chinese wish to rediscover their socialist roots, more power to them.
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I also watched the movie 活着, Geyou is very good at making people laugh. there are some truth in the movie but still much of it is being very much dramatized.
There's no denial the tragedy happened to some families during Mao's era, but percentage was still tiny, this is why the great majority of the population are still fond of Mao even today.
 
Whoever wants Mao back is an idiot.

1. Famine during Great Leap Forward

2. Political persecution during Cultural Revolution

3. Extreme cult of personality

China got to where it is today not because of him, but in spite of him.
 
S10 said:
Whoever wants Mao back is an idiot.

1. Famine during Great Leap Forward

2. Political persecution during Cultural Revolution

3. Extreme cult of personality
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Mao can't be back, he's dead for half a century already, People do this just to pile the pressure on the government to solve the current pressing issues.
 
Beijingwalker said:
Mao can't be back, he's dead for half a century already, People do this just to pile the pressure on the government to solve the current pressing issues.
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Well if they worship Mao, then they are fucking idiots deserving whatever fate they got.
 
China to Likely Put Into Operation 2,500 Km of High-Speed Railway This Years
LI XIUZHONG
December 27 2023

Dec. 27 -- China is expected to put more than 2,500 kilometers of high-speed rail lines into operation this year, the highest figure in the past four years, according to the latest official data.

Three new high-speed railway lines including the one from Chengdu to Yibin in Sichuan province, as well as super-high-speed railway hub Baiyun Station in Guangzhou, started operation on Dec. 26, according to an announcement by China State Railway Group. Two other high-speed lines opened today, including one connecting the port city of Fangchenggang in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region and Dongxing, a city on the border between China and Vietnam.

The total mileage of this year's newly operated high-speed railways exceeded the 2,082 km of last year, reversing a downward trend that started in 2020. The six years between 2014 and 2019 were a peak period for the completion and commissioning of high-speed rail lines, with over 4,000 km coming into operation each year, except for 2016 and 2017, when only 2,000 km were opened. In 2019, a record high of 5,474 km of high-speed railways were put into operation.

Eight Chinese provincial-level regions had more than 2,000 km of high-speed rail lines in operation by the end of last year, Yicai learned from local government data. Eastern Anhui ranked first with 2,522 km.

With new high-speed rail lines coming on stream this year, three more provincial-level regions -- Jiangxi, Guangxi, and Fujian provinces -- will exceed the 2,000 km milestone, while Shandong province will surpass 2,800 km, topping its neighbor Anhui to become the provincial-level region with the longest high-speed rail lines.

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China puts 2,000 km high-speed railways into service in 2022​

Xinhua | Updated: 2023-01-29 17:23

A Fuxing CR400BF-GZ bullet train runs in Heilongjiang province. [Photo by Yuan Yong/For chinadaily.com.cn]

BEIJING -- A total of 4,100 kilometers of new railway lines were put into operation across China in 2022, including 2,082 km of high-speed tracks, data from the China State Railway Group Co., Ltd. showed.

As of the end of last year, China's railways in service had stretched to a total length of 155,000 km, within which the operating length of the high-speed network had reached 42,000 km, according to the group.

Fixed-asset investment in China's railways reached 710.9 billion yuan (about $105 billion) in 2022, promoting a batch of major projects in the field of rail infrastructure construction.

In 2023, China plans to launch new rail lines of more than 3,000 km, including 2,500 km for high-speed trains, said the group.

The country has built the world's largest high-speed railway network to address people's growing demand for convenient and comfortable travel.

China puts 2,000 km high-speed railways into service in 2022

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2023 年 11 月 30 日，全国高铁总里程 4.37 万公里。
By the end of November 2023, The total length of China's High Speed Railway Network is 43,700 Kilometers, accounting for over 70% of the world total.
 
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