Complaints from Indians

[Musings]

Have had a couple of complaints from Indians of "harsh treatment".
Lately moderators have been frustrated with certain Indian members who have, on occasion, created multi ID accounts - specifically to troll or simply be a nuisances. We clamp down and simply wont allow it. Anyone posting with a variable and critical view is welcome. Hell Pakistan has plenty to be critical over and deserve the criticism - however we simply wont allow this as an excuse for Indian members to troll.
We, unlike Indian forums have Indian mods and welcome Indian members that are not here to troll.
Without going into specifics - one member that complained has created 5 accounts in a month. What does that say about the member? Yet he still believes he has the right to raise his head and complain of harsh treatment by the mods?

Be respectful and debate. You will be treated with respect. Here to troll? Will be treated accordingly.
Thanks for reading and i hope this explains our stance on the matter.

 

[Yasser76]

Last week or so there has been so much less trolling, derailing and vulgar language on the forum I noticed. Coincedence?

 

[retaxis]

These multi ID rats all post the same rubbish most of the time which explains its mostly the same couple of people with all these different IDs. They seem to never be able to learn and change their behavior and when given new information, never able to digest it either.

 

[Pioneer]

I saw a suspicious 'Pakistani ID' bragging that India possesses the world's third-largest nuclear arsenal, the world's fourth-largest military, and the world's third-largest air force...

 

[mythbuster]

Last week or so there has been so much less trolling, derailing and vulgar language on the forum I noticed. Coincedence?

Some trolls are entertaining but the Indians for the most part are irritating.

 

[Owaiz]

It has been a while since I have seen a quality post from a supposedly Indian member, but it is not surprising since mostly trolls from India self-select to be active here. If you control for those who have been banned and the multi-ids, there are probably not more than a handful of Indian posters here.

Even otherwise, most active members are here only because of nostalgia for the old forum. The newer generation has moved on to the likes of reddit, X, etc. Across different genres, most of the web forums I used to follow 15 years ago have either shut down or are far less active than they used to be. People have a lot more avenues to express themselves and engage online these days.

 

[RescueRanger]

We used to have some quality posters from India, Popeye was one of them as was good old Mr. Joe, but sadly we have lost a lot of educated and well informed members over the years.

We should 100% allow Indian members to join, voice their opinions and counter our narratives, but not tolerate flagrant flame baiting, insults and toxic behavior. They can take that to Reddit or X or whatever other hell hole they wish to occupy.

 

[Yasser76]

It has been a while since I have seen a quality post from a supposedly Indian member, but it is not surprising since mostly trolls from India self-select to be active here. If you control for those who have been banned and the multi-ids, there are probably not more than a handful of Indian posters here.

Even otherwise, most active members are here only because of nostalgia for the old forum. The newer generation has moved on to the likes of reddit, X, etc. Across different genres, most of the web forums I used to follow 15 years ago have either shut down or are far less active than they used to be. People have a lot more avenues to express themselves and engage online these days.

Very well said Ranju

 

[PK781]

@Musings @RescueRanger

I would also suggest you guys to check the Iranian war thread, there’s quite afew there who get a thrill of blaming and maligning Pakistan and Pakistanis for everything, to the point where insulting us is encouraged and even being celebrated.
The Forum Admins need to keep them in check as that stuff is escalating.

And I agree that proper debating and discussion is ok but its when they veer offtopic and start glorifying their india without regard to the topic and trolling is when things go off the rails.

What did they think they’d be given flowers here and hugged? If they can’t be straight they’re free to go stay on their own forums or reddits where they got an echo chamber and their huge follower diaspora.

I do believe some of them come here to getaway from all that because even they can’t stand it…..its human nature. Although i myself would die of shame if i had to register on any of their forums, lol.

Lets agree that our nationality, culture and religion is wayyy different than theirs so it will always be opposite to theirs in many aspects, and we don’t compromise on our religious beliefs and we do see the entire world from our perspectives which is Islamic and always will be. If anyone has a problem with that then perhaps they should not be here if they can’t handle that.

Life can be difficult and frustrating these days for most of us but we do the best we can as humans. I think most visitors will acknowledge that Pakistanis are quite great hosts and we offer great hospitality but it should not be tsken as cowardice or weakness.

 

[Watandar]

I feel there is a lot more than just banning Indian trolls that has been happening in the last few weeks. It feels like very heavy censorship has been imposed to penalize those who don't support the Pakistani dictatorship or support the Saudi government's policies.

Because of this many threads have turned into echo chambers reflecting sarkari propaganda.

There are also Pakistani trolls here who constantly accuse and insult others as Indian and "Rakesh" , who engage in vicious sectarian and ethnic attacks, yet because they also spew the sarkari POV, nobody penalizes them.

 

[Yasser76]

I feel there is a lot more than just banning Indian trolls that has been happening in the last few weeks. It feels like very heavy censorship has been imposed to penalize those who don't support the Pakistani dictatorship or support the Saudi government's policies.

Because of this many threads have turned into echo chambers reflecting sarkari propaganda.

There are also Pakistani trolls here who constantly accuse and insult others as Indian and "Rakesh" , who engage in vicious sectarian and ethnic attacks, yet because they also spew the sarkari POV, nobody penalizes them.

This very post and your behaviour (I thought you were still banned!?) is the exact trolling we do not need. I noticed it was very pleasant as well when you were banned.

You can tell by going on to PDF right now there useful new news, civilised debate and some great ideas going around. Every thread you and your little group of folowers (or maybe your own IDs) ensured threads degenerated. Like you are attempting now. Unsure for the motivation behind this, we know you @Toxic and others posted some very very vile stuff (much directed at me) of language no Muslim should see (please try and deny this as Mods know the truth when they deleted your posts).

You are the very core of the problem here too

 

[Musings]

It has been a while since I have seen a quality post from a supposedly Indian member, but it is not surprising since mostly trolls from India self-select to be active here. If you control for those who have been banned and the multi-ids, there are probably not more than a handful of Indian posters here.

Even otherwise, most active members are here only because of nostalgia for the old forum. The newer generation has moved on to the likes of reddit, X, etc. Across different genres, most of the web forums I used to follow 15 years ago have either shut down or are far less active than they used to be. People have a lot more avenues to express themselves and engage online these days.

Ye we also have several Afghani members with Pakistan flags. Difficult to differentiate…… until they cant hide their inner hatred.

 

[Musings]

I feel there is a lot more than just banning Indian trolls that has been happening in the last few weeks. It feels like very heavy censorship has been imposed to penalize those who don't support the Pakistani dictatorship or support the Saudi government's policies.

Because of this many threads have turned into echo chambers reflecting sarkari propaganda.

There are also Pakistani trolls here who constantly accuse and insult others as Indian and "Rakesh" , who engage in vicious sectarian and ethnic attacks, yet because they also spew the sarkari POV, nobody penalizes them.

You throw abuse and get infractions. I removed an infraction to allow you to post but rather than looking at your own quality of post - you still look at others to blame. There is no censorship - just wont allow crap.
You even managed to bring this thread down. Last warning to you.

 

[Owaiz]

Very well said Ranju

I don't normally respond to low IQ duffer patwari - fajueet hybrid paidaish trolling , but at least troll properly if you must. WTH is Ranju supposed to mean ?

 

[Yasser76]

I don't normally respond to low IQ duffer patwari - fajueet hybrid paidaish trolling , but at least troll properly if you must. WTH is Ranju supposed to mean ?

Even when just attacking me your deep hatred of Pakistan (and on every thread you pollute) never fails to shine through Agnesh