Dangerous majoritarianism

[Sharma Ji]

We just took the first step towards defeating, stalling, and then pushing back dangerous majoritarianism here in India.

and why exactly might you be dragging us into their muck here ?

we have plenty of our own kichad to splash around in.

 

[vsdoc]

and why exactly might you be dragging us into their muck here ?

we have plenty of our own kichad to splash around in.

Not really.

I have always said, since 2016, on this forum's older version and elsewhere, that the Sangh and Hindutva were saffron conjoined twins of Pakistan's Islamism and supremacism.

That they are trying (and succeeding) in morphing into that which they hate.

Its on record. Kuch naya nahin bol raha hun.

So I wouldn't smirk and act as if our shit don't stink.

Cheers, Doc

 

[vsdoc]

Now Pakistanis will get antsy and say don't pull India into this.

Sanghis have their brown shorts on fire.

Forums do not work in such neat silos. Black and white.

There is a world of sordid grey out there. And there are still commentators who can view high level 360 from all sides.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Guru Dutt]

Well what has hapenned in last 76 in years to Muslims in Indian Sub Continenet is not because of RSS or BJP or MODI but because of fixation with so called Majority or getting into majority by population explossion while bieng way too emotional and unrealistic and when your emotional and stop acting with logic and stop learning or distinguishing btween good and bad or write or wrong based on religious principals only then you end up where muslims of indian sub continent find themselfs after 76 years of independence and its common in Pakistan or India or even bangladesh ..ever wonderred why

 

[vsdoc]

Well what has hapenned in last 76 in years to Muslims in Indian Sub Continenet is not because of RSS or BJP or MODI but because of fixation with so called Majority or getting into majority by population explossion while bieng way too emotional and unrealistic and when your emotional and stop acting with logic and stop learning or distinguishing btween good and bad or write or wrong based on religious principals only then you end up where muslims of indian sub continent find themselfs after 76 years of independence and its common in Pakistan or India or even bangladesh ..ever wonderred why

I agree.

Equally, what you are doing is clever sophisticated subterfuge. Of using Muslims during majority of our history, under Congress, and painting it as an even swathe for BJP rule as well, without the underlying social nuances and the ecosystem.

Majoritarianism is not only Muslim directed. It is EXCLUSIONARY to ALL non Hindus, and less overtly, even large sections of Hindus, who are not the "correct type" of Hindu.

There is a world of difference between the Congress and BJP in how they see all Indians.

Cheers, Doc

 

[AjitWadhwa]

Well what has hapenned in last 76 in years to Muslims in Indian Sub Continenet is not because of RSS or BJP or MODI but because of fixation with so called Majority or getting into majority by population explossion while bieng way too emotional and unrealistic and when your emotional and stop acting with logic and stop learning or distinguishing btween good and bad or write or wrong based on religious principals only then you end up where muslims of indian sub continent find themselfs after 76 years of independence and its common in Pakistan or India or even bangladesh ..ever wonderred why

Gandhi ji protected minorities.

Modi doing the opposite

 

[Guru Dutt]

I agree.

Equally, what you are doing is clever sophisticated subterfuge. Of using Muslims during majority of our history, under Congress, and painting it as an even swathe for BJP rule as well, without the underlying social nuances and the ecosystem.

Majoritarianism is not only Muslim directed. It is EXCLUSIONARY to ALL non Hindus, and less overtly, even large sections of Hindus, who are not the "correct type" of Hindu.

There is a world of difference between the Congress and BJP in how they see all Indians.

Cheers, Doc

well for last 76 years bieng a Bhramin or a baniya is like a curse and a social abuse where its a elementarry school book or any hindi or regional movie a Bhramin is shown as a crafty and opresser while a baniya is always shown as a blood sucking leech while a Thakur is always shown like a merciless landlord hell bend to wipe off poor poor and help less land less farmers

when Feudalism was iradicated by LAW way back in 1948 while so called SWARN HINDU castes like Bhramins or Baniyas or Thakurs were not given any preffrence in jobsor educational intitution rather under Article 5 Hindus cannot teach about Hindu religion in there private or institution schools or educational institutions and if they have Govt officers will keep a check on them But Muslims and Chritians have Both Chritian Missionarry schools and Muslim minority institution schools and colleges which do get Govt Funds but Govt of India has no control over them and they have no SC/ST or OBC reservation in them

but since 1990 after MANDAL Comission came into force 50% of all goverment Jobs and seats in all governt colleges like IIT/AIIMS or CA or till PHD level or housing schmeses to propmotion in jobs TO UPSC level civil exams had 50% reservations for Scheduled Castes & Scheduled Tribes and Other Backward Castes

Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Mandal Commission - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sachar Committee - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Guru Dutt]

Gandhi ji protected minorities.

Modi doing the opposite

Protection is other thing appeasment is other tell me one right in india or under BJP that Hindus have or one privilage that Hindus enjoy but muslims do not

and last time when MODI or any BJP guy said any welfare sheme was for HINDUS and not 140 crore Indians

26 Important Schemes Launched by Narendra Modi Government

There are three types of Central Government schemes. These are the "Core of Core Schemes," "Core Schemes," and "Major Central Sector Schemes" categories. There are approximately 6 schemes in the 'Core of Core Schemes' list and 28 schemes in the Core Sectors.

unacademy.com

 

[vsdoc]

well for last 76 years bieng a Bhramin or a baniya is like a curse and a social abuse where its a elementarry school book or any hindi or regional movie a Bhramin is shown as a crafty and opresser while a baniya is always shown as a blood sucking leech while a Thakur is always shown like a merciless landlord hell bend to wipe off poor poor and help less land less farmers

And Parsis shown as a small weak mad uncle in white sudra and topi or white dugli on a Chetak scooter or polishing his car while his fat wife is screaming at him.

Stereotypes are there everywhere.

 

[Guru Dutt]

And Parsis shown as a small weak mad uncle in white sudra and topi or white dugli on a Chetak scooter or polishing his car while his fat wife is screaming at him.

Stereotypes are there everywhere.

well do you see any so called SWARAN or Baniya Bhramin or Thakur Hindu snearing or Mocking a Parsi when it was parsies which sided and helped in British beurocracy fro China to Singapore till Tanzania to Oman and Carrabeans under british raj as Clercks and commission agents and traders

but cause of people like DADA Bhai Narowji , Jamshedji TATA and Madam Bikaji Gama Hindus to specially for people like Ratan TATA give Big Brother like status to Parsis as some guy with sophesticated sof spoken guy with taste for good food and who cares like a child for his Auto mobiles

 

[AjitWadhwa]

Protection is other thing appeasment is other tell me one right in india or under BJP that Hindus have or one privilage that Hindus enjoy but muslims do not

and last time when MODI or any BJP guy said any welfare sheme was for HINDUS and not 140 crore Indians

26 Important Schemes Launched by Narendra Modi Government

There are three types of Central Government schemes. These are the "Core of Core Schemes," "Core Schemes," and "Major Central Sector Schemes" categories. There are approximately 6 schemes in the 'Core of Core Schemes' list and 28 schemes in the Core Sectors.

unacademy.com

Gandhiji kept Muslims in India to promote secularism.

BJP hates him for that

 

[vsdoc]

well do you see any so called SWARAN or Baniya Bhramin or Thakur Hindu snearing or Mocking a Parsi when it was parsies which sided and helped in British beurocracy fro China to Singapore till Tanzania to Oman and Carrabeans under british raj as Clercks and commission agents and traders

but cause of people like DADA Bhai Narowji , Jamshedji TATA and Madam Bikaji Gama Hindus to specially for people like Ratan TATA give Big Brother like status to Parsis as some guy with sophesticated sof spoken guy with taste for good food and who cares like a child for his Auto mobiles

Nothing which you guys did not do too (With the British).

We just did it and fit in much better

 

[JaneBhiDoYaaron]

Not really.

I have always said, since 2016, on this forum's older version and elsewhere, that the Sangh and Hindutva were saffron conjoined twins of Pakistan's Islamism and supremacism.

That they are trying (and succeeding) in morphing into that which they hate.

Its on record. Kuch naya nahin bol raha hun.

So I wouldn't smirk and act as if our shit don't stink.

Cheers, Doc

Sanghi want a true secular nation and not the current crap we have Hindu laws and muslim laws and ….

 

[vsdoc]

Sanghi want a true secular nation and not the current crap we have Hindu laws and muslim laws and ….

Sigh.

Refer to my earlier convo with @Sharma Ji and @Guru Dutt

 

[Sharma Ji]

the only people more xutia than Rahul gandhie, the fake Gandhi

are their bhakts