DeepSeek, China's AI model: News & Discussion

[FHN]

Deepseek just beat everyone, and made the world realize, it doesn't take billions of dollars of capital to revolutionize the industry.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@FHN

Have you asked DeepSeek what is its opinion about Tiananmen Square garden massacre?

Regards

 

[FHN]

China did it in $5 Million what Top researcher at OpenAI cannot do for $500 Billion.
DeepSeek demonetizing OpenAI, while still being a side project.
Moreover they are offering this model for FREE.

 

[FHN]

 

[UKBengali]

Tested and impressed with coding abilities and answering technical questions.

Better than both paid Gemini and Chatgpt - not sure about the ultra expensive 200 US dollar a month Chatgpt as I never used that.

My go to Chatbot due to both capability and want to stay away from US products as much as possible.

 

[FHN]

@FHN

Have you asked DeepSeek what is its opinion about Tiananmen Square garden massacre?

Regards

What about Kent massacre, Tulsa race massacre, my Lai massacre?

 

[FHN]

Tested and impressed with coding abilities and answering technical questions.

Better than both paid Gemini and Chatgpt - not sure about the ultra expensive 200 US dollar a month Chatgpt as I never used that.

My go to Chatbot due to both capability and want to stay away from US products as much as possible.

DeepSeek is open source & 96% cheaper than OpenAI.Open source means you can run it on your own hardware and be 100% sure the data stays within your business

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@FHN

It reminds me of an old joke during the Cold War era.

An American tells a Russian friend "Look I can go to the White House and bang my fist on the President's desk and shout "Mr President, I dont like the way you are running the country" and nothing will happen to me.

The Russian replies "Well I can go to the Kremlin and bang my fist on Com Brezhnev's desk and shout "Mr General Secretary, I don't like the way President Reagan is running America" and nothing will happen to me either.

Regards

 

[FHN]

People like to talk about tianneman square especially the Americans without knowing the full context of the event that occured.Let's start with a 1989 article from the Washington Post condemning China for showing footage of what really happened during the events
«Demonstrators torched an entire military convoy of more than 100 trucks and armored vehicles» on an avenue, 5km away from the square



Imagine what the US military personals would've done to the so called "peaceful protestors" if they were in that situation lol

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

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never would have guessed 5000 years of civilizational superiority could manifest in such a way

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Chinese AI firm DeepSeek has 50,000 NVIDIA H100 AI GPUs says CEO, even with US restrictions

Chinese AI company DeepSeek says its DeepSeek R1 model is as good, or better than OpenAI's new o1 says CEO: powered by 50,000 NVIDIA H100 AI GPUs.

www.tweaktown.com

Chinese AI firm DeepSeek has 50,000 NVIDIA H100 AI GPUs says CEO, even with US restrictions

Chinese AI lab DeepSeek has access to tens of thousands of NVIDIA H100 AI GPUs for training, according to DeepSeek CEO.

The DeepSeek R1 is one of the most advanced AI models on the planet, competing with the likes of OpenAI's new o1 and Meta's Llama AI models. In a new interview with CNBC, Scale AI founder and CEO Alexander Wang said DeepSeek R1 has met, or beats all-top performing AI models in his firm's most challenging AI test.

CNBC's Andrew Ross Sorkin interviewed Wang, talking about DeepSeek's new AI test called "Humanity's Last Exam" with the "hardest questions" pumped into it by "math, physics, biology, chemistry professors" that are relevant to the latest research. After testing all of the latest AI models, Wang's team found that DeepSeek's new model was "actually the top performing, or roughly on par with the best American models, which are o1".

Wang was asked about the AI competition between the US and China, where he added: "it has been true for a long time that the United States has been ahead". But he did note that DeepSeek's new models do attempt to change that, where he thinks that "is symbolic that the Chinese lab releases, you know, an Earth-shattering model on Christmas Day when you know the rest of us are sort of celebrating a holiday"

DeepSeek is using NVIDIA's Hopper AI architecture with H100 and H200 AI GPUs training their AI models, with restrictions put in place by the Biden administration to stop powerful AI GPUs from hitting the shores of China. But it doesn't seem all that hard to get advanced AI chips into China, with Wang telling CNBC: "the reality is yes and no. You know the Chinese labs, they have more H100s than, than people think".

Wang said that his "understanding is that DeepSeek has about fifty thousand H100s" and that "they can't talk about obviously because it is against the export controls that United States has put in place", adding "they have more chips than other people expect".

In the future, getting access to advanced AI chips to China, Wang said: "But also on a go-forward basis they are going to be limited by the chip controls and the export controls that we have in place".

Marina Zhang, an associate professor at the University of Technology Sydney, who studies Chinese innovations, said: "Unlike many Chinese AI firms that rely heavily on access to advanced hardware, DeepSeek has focused on maximizing software-driven resource optimization. DeepSeek has embraced open source methods, pooling collective expertise and fostering collaborative innovation. This approach not only mitigates resource constraints but also accelerates the development of cutting-edge technologies, setting DeepSeek apart from more insular competitors".

 

[RealNapster]

@FHN

Have you asked DeepSeek what is its opinion about Tiananmen Square garden massacre?

Regards

Why would you be interested in A.I models opinion on tiananmen square incident ? Why not use it to grow your business, automat your business with it's help, make your studies and academic research easy, build different softwares by writing codes with it's help.

It's like I found that universal computer which would give answer to any question, any question. But instead I ask it "did world war 2 happen because people were bored" ?

Ask chatgpt about it's opinion on Israeli aggression and crimes against humanity and Palestinians specially. Whatever it will be respond will start from " as an AI I don't have any opinion, allegation of crimes were made by all parties.". It will not specifically target Israeli aggression. What does it tell me ? Should I stop using chatgpt to grow myself in my field of research ?

 

[ety]

@FHN

Have you asked DeepSeek what is its opinion about Tiananmen Square garden massacre?

Regards

Don't the jealousy Indian has something better to discuss about DeepSeek tech, all the time they don't want to contribute to meaning discussions on the topics.

 

[iblini]

Chinese AI firm DeepSeek has 50,000 NVIDIA H100 AI GPUs says CEO, even with US restrictions

Chinese AI company DeepSeek says its DeepSeek R1 model is as good, or better than OpenAI's new o1 says CEO: powered by 50,000 NVIDIA H100 AI GPUs.

www.tweaktown.com

Chinese AI firm DeepSeek has 50,000 NVIDIA H100 AI GPUs says CEO, even with US restrictions

Chinese AI lab DeepSeek has access to tens of thousands of NVIDIA H100 AI GPUs for training, according to DeepSeek CEO.

The DeepSeek R1 is one of the most advanced AI models on the planet, competing with the likes of OpenAI's new o1 and Meta's Llama AI models. In a new interview with CNBC, Scale AI founder and CEO Alexander Wang said DeepSeek R1 has met, or beats all-top performing AI models in his firm's most challenging AI test.

CNBC's Andrew Ross Sorkin interviewed Wang, talking about DeepSeek's new AI test called "Humanity's Last Exam" with the "hardest questions" pumped into it by "math, physics, biology, chemistry professors" that are relevant to the latest research. After testing all of the latest AI models, Wang's team found that DeepSeek's new model was "actually the top performing, or roughly on par with the best American models, which are o1".

Wang was asked about the AI competition between the US and China, where he added: "it has been true for a long time that the United States has been ahead". But he did note that DeepSeek's new models do attempt to change that, where he thinks that "is symbolic that the Chinese lab releases, you know, an Earth-shattering model on Christmas Day when you know the rest of us are sort of celebrating a holiday"

DeepSeek is using NVIDIA's Hopper AI architecture with H100 and H200 AI GPUs training their AI models, with restrictions put in place by the Biden administration to stop powerful AI GPUs from hitting the shores of China. But it doesn't seem all that hard to get advanced AI chips into China, with Wang telling CNBC: "the reality is yes and no. You know the Chinese labs, they have more H100s than, than people think".

Wang said that his "understanding is that DeepSeek has about fifty thousand H100s" and that "they can't talk about obviously because it is against the export controls that United States has put in place", adding "they have more chips than other people expect".

In the future, getting access to advanced AI chips to China, Wang said: "But also on a go-forward basis they are going to be limited by the chip controls and the export controls that we have in place".

Marina Zhang, an associate professor at the University of Technology Sydney, who studies Chinese innovations, said: "Unlike many Chinese AI firms that rely heavily on access to advanced hardware, DeepSeek has focused on maximizing software-driven resource optimization. DeepSeek has embraced open source methods, pooling collective expertise and fostering collaborative innovation. This approach not only mitigates resource constraints but also accelerates the development of cutting-edge technologies, setting DeepSeek apart from more insular competitors".

read thier paper first, dude, some of you guys are just coping hard right now, but but but：

 

[Developereo]

Disclaimer: I don't agree with her on many things, maybe not on this topic either, but it's an interesting viewpoint.

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