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[RealNapster]

Pakistan will deal with Khalistan in future on its merit. Good relations are two way street, Afghans need to understand that.

Just like Pakistan is able to deal with Afghanistan ?

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So you will create another monster just because you are unable to deal with the current monster ?

 

[KingQamaR]

For me , actions speaks louder than words. Most Pakistanis have had enough bulls**t promises from all Governments! When it comes to Afghan illegal migration into Pakistan.

 

[RealNapster]

For me , actions speaks louder than words. Most Pakistanis have had enough bulls**t promises from all Governments! When it comes to Afghan illegal migration into Pakistan.

The policy of sending every afghan back (even those with valid documents) is wrong. We are basically discouraging afghans from going back to Afghanistan and then return (if they want) on documents and visa.

To such deportation, afghans will be reluctant and we won't be doing our future kids any favor as well because these force deportation (of those with as well as without documents) will be one more reason for them to hate us.

I mean we can just send the illegal afghans forcefully. Even that is around 1+ million. So why not do that instead of sending everyone back ? If trump or macron or UK did the same with Pakistanis , what would be our reaction ? It is the same with dams. Every government want to make kalabag and when they see the resistance they stop making any dam at all saying "well people are against them". But no one would built those 10s of dams that have no adversary stakeholders and have feasibilities already performed.

 

[RescueRanger]

LIf trump or macron or UK did the same with Pakistanis , what would be our reaction ?

We are deporting undocumented Afghans. As far as I know that is the same thing western nations do all the time.

 

[Distant_Observer]

The policy of sending every afghan back (even those with valid documents) is wrong. We are basically discouraging afghans from going back to Afghanistan and then return (if they want) on documents and visa.

To such deportation, afghans will be reluctant and we won't be doing our future kids any favor as well because these force deportation (of those with as well as without documents) will be the one reason for them to hate us.

I mean we can just send the illegal afghans forcefully. Even that is around 1+ million. So why not do that instead of sending everyone back ? If trump or macron or UK did the same with Pakistanis , what would be our reaction ?

Afghanistan is an ideological enemy of Pakistan and we cannot have their communities living in Pakistan. Legal and illegal must all go back and visas tightly monitored and controlled.

Our future generations will thank us for this. We have to think of our future or nobody else will.

 

[RealNapster]

We are deporting undocumented Afghans. As far as I know that is the same thing western nations do all the time.

Nope. Sending everyone back that do not have visa. Previously (I mean till now) we issued them cards on which they could stay and live a peaceful life. There are some million+ on those cards. They renew them every 6 months (I believe) by paying a fee.

But government want to send them back as well. I mean we can just convert their cards to visa stamps. But no.


The card name is PoR (proof of registration) and some 1.4-1.5 million afghans have this "legal" document based residence in Pakistan. But govt of Pakistan stopped renewing their cards at end of June.

 

[RescueRanger]

Nope. Sending everyone back that do not have visa. Previously (I mean till now) we issued them cards on which they could stay and live a peaceful life. There are some million+ on those cards. They renew them every 6 months (I believe) by paying a fee.

But government want to send them back as well. I mean we can just convert their cards to visa stamps. But no.

Send them all back. The sooner the better.

 

[RealNapster]

Send them all back. The sooner the better.

Okay. Now you see why I said what if Sweden, UK, France, USA did the same to us ? What if they start sending all Pakistanis back, even those with temporary residence and PRs ? All of them . ..

We are discouraging a peaceful coexistence with the state of Afghanistan by continuing these ill-thought policies. India won't even play a match with Pakistan. Can't do anything with Iran or even buy their gas due to pressure from a nation 10000 km away. And suddenly we want to push Afghanistan to a point of no return ? Don't think of the term or decade. Think of the century.

 

[RescueRanger]

Okay. Now you see why I said what if Sweden, UK, France, USA did the same to us ? What if they start sending all Pakistanis back, even those with temporary residence and PRs ? All of them . ..

We are discouraging a peaceful coexistence with the state of Afghanistan by continuing these ill-thought policies. India won't even play a match with Pakistan. Can't do anything with Iran or even buy their gas due to pressure from a nation 10000 km away. And suddenly we want to push Afghanistan to a point of no return ? Don't think of the term or decade. Think of the century.

Dont care about Sweden or X or Y or Z. I care about Pakistan and I support the government stance on this.

 

[RealNapster]

Afghanistan is an ideological enemy of Pakistan and we cannot have their communities living in Pakistan. Legal and illegal must all go back and visas tightly monitored and controlled.

Our future generations will thank us for this. We have to think of our future or nobody else will.

USA consider Iran an active threat for it's existence. Yet it import talent from Iran. During world war 2 when USA along with 5-6 more of its allied nations were dropping bombs on Germany day night. It was still importing talent from Germany, sometime even taking help from special forces for extraction.

Your future generation will have no land to cultivate in thanks to dropping water reserves, depleting ground water table, drying rivers, and housing societies on agricultural land. Your future generation will need the same neighbours for import of food and other necessary items. But your neighbours will give them a flying fcuk instead.

 

[RealNapster]

Dont care about Sweden or X or Y or Z. I care about Pakistan and I support the government stance on this.

Ignorance is bliss.

 

[RescueRanger]

Ignorance is bliss.

Whatever pal, ive worked in Afghanistan and had many interactions with them. Its not ignorance its informed decision making. Stop trying to change people's minds, express your opinion and move on.

The government is clear on this and I support the government on this.

Now if you have nothing else to add... Let's move on.

 

[Starlord]

Dont care about Sweden or X or Y or Z. I care about Pakistan and I support the government stance on this.

Mujhe tu lag raha hai aap ko "Emotional Blackmail" ker ke false equivalency se... moving to any country illegally and their deportation as sad as it could be for some its still in legal framework, If America don't want illegals in their country its their right, just like that if Pakistan don't want illegals in their country its our right, I said our because I am still a Pakistani lol warna kuch log mere pe hi chad doren gay haha

 

[RescueRanger]

Mujhe tu lag raha hai aap ko "Emotional Blackmail" ker ke false equivalency se... moving to any country illegally and their deportation as sad as it could be for some its still in legal framework, If America don't want illegals in their country its their right, just like that if Pakistan don't want illegals in their country its our right, I said our because I am still a Pakistani lol warna kuch log mere pe hi chad doren gay haha

Sir emotional blackmail ki baat hi nahi banti. Enough is enough.

 

[RealNapster]

Stop trying to change people's minds, express your opinion and move on.

Now if you have nothing else to add... Let's move on.

Now, if could do that (changing peoples mind) that easily, it means there is a fundamental problem with their previous belief system and they agreed.

But it's not that simple with us Pakistanis. We are generally ignorants and we are always proud of it.

Good day.