Discussion of the F-47 Design, Development, and Progressing Toward First Flight and Manufacturing

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A senior US Air Force (USAF) officer has reiterated that key programmes such as the Boeing F-47 fighter and Northrop Grumman B-21 bomber remain on track.

The message was delivered by USAF General Dale White, speaking at the Life Cycle Industry Days event in Dayton, Ohio.

On what the USAF refers to as the “F-47 family of systems”, White says the programme is characterised by “extreme teaming” with industry, and that the F-47 has “unprecedented maturity” as it enters its engineering and manufacturing development phase.

“The F-47 will fly in this administration,” says White.

This corroborates the fiscal year 2027 budget request from the White House in April, which said the F-47 is on track for a first flight in 2028. Boeing defence chief executive Steve Parker recently said that the programme “is going very well.”

White’s speech, to an audience of acquisition officials, focused on improvements to the Pentagon’s notoriously byzantine procurement process. His role oversees key weapons systems.

“For too long, we have sat back and relaxed under the idea that we’re an administrative and mission support function,” says White.

“Those days are gone. The time is now for this community to deliver.”

He adds that the USAF has boosted B-21 industrial capacity by 25% and that the aircraft is hitting flight milestones.

“B-21 Raiders will be on the ramp at Ellsworth air force base in 2027,” says White.

The USAF has previously said that it will start fielding the stealthy B-21 in 2027. In May, US Navy Admiral Samuel Paparo, who commands US forces in the pivotal Indo-Pacific region, said that he would favour obtaining 200 examples, more than the 100 currently planned.

White also commended the rapid development of collaborative combat aircraft (CCAs) for the USAF. He says that the government-owned open architecture being used in CCA efforts is “killing vendor lock” and fostering a competitive software marketplace for the uncrewed aircraft that will serve alongside manned fighters.
 
NATIONAL HARBOR, Maryland—The U.S. Air Force and Boeing are progressing well on finalizing the design of the F-47 sixth-generation fighter, which remains on track for first flight within the next two years, with major milestones on the way to get there.

Gen. Dale White, the Air Force’s direct reporting program manager for its major acquisition programs, told reporters Sept. 15 that the “many, many years in tech maturation and risk reduction” gave the program a head start.

“We are absolutely on [track] to be able to hit the mark of flying within this administration, we see no issues in front of us right now,” White said at the Air and Space Forces Association’s Air, Space & Cyber Conference. “As long as the team continues to execute … [we] will be on time [and] on target with that.”

While the Air Force has been progressing on its next-generation fighter, the U.S. Navy has largely been stalled on selecting its own similar platform, currently unnamed but designated F/A-XX. Much of this delay has been connected to an argument from top Pentagon officials that the defense industrial base is not able to support two advanced fighter programs.


White said industrial base concerns are not just on these specific programs, but across multiple platforms.

“What we’re having to do is at some point we’re having to make some trade space in between some of these,” White said. “Right now, I see Boeingmaking smart investments. They have a lot of CAPEX they’re pouring in, but we have to get through the process of the design piece, getting that completed and closed out, then we’ll hit some major milestones with things like flight tests and software.”

The focus is on managing overall resourcing, White said, which comes down to two factors—firstly, people, and secondly, having adequate production capacity to maintain the required output rate.
 
NATIONAL HARBOR, Maryland—The U.S. Air Force and Boeing are progressing well on finalizing the design of the F-47 sixth-generation fighter, which remains on track for first flight within the next two years, with major milestones on the way to get there.

Gen. Dale White, the Air Force’s direct reporting program manager for its major acquisition programs, told reporters Sept. 15 that the “many, many years in tech maturation and risk reduction” gave the program a head start.

“We are absolutely on [track] to be able to hit the mark of flying within this administration, we see no issues in front of us right now,” White said at the Air and Space Forces Association’s Air, Space & Cyber Conference. “As long as the team continues to execute … [we] will be on time [and] on target with that.”

While the Air Force has been progressing on its next-generation fighter, the U.S. Navy has largely been stalled on selecting its own similar platform, currently unnamed but designated F/A-XX. Much of this delay has been connected to an argument from top Pentagon officials that the defense industrial base is not able to support two advanced fighter programs.


White said industrial base concerns are not just on these specific programs, but across multiple platforms.

“What we’re having to do is at some point we’re having to make some trade space in between some of these,” White said. “Right now, I see Boeingmaking smart investments. They have a lot of CAPEX they’re pouring in, but we have to get through the process of the design piece, getting that completed and closed out, then we’ll hit some major milestones with things like flight tests and software.”

The focus is on managing overall resourcing, White said, which comes down to two factors—firstly, people, and secondly, having adequate production capacity to maintain the required output rate.
The USA is leader on this game, expecting a nice product.
 
If I remember correctly, you previously mentioned that you had already conducted secret flight tests, and now you're saying the first flight will be in two years? So which one is the real information?
Yes. There was mention of that. Good question. Curious minds would like to know.
 
If I remember correctly, you previously mentioned that you had already conducted secret flight tests, and now you're saying the first flight will be in two years? So which one is the real information?
This will be the production model the aircraft before were likely the X-prototypes.

X-35
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F-35/AA-1 production model test plane.
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The F-35 AA-1's are still in service and those are the planes you see carrying around or testing new weapons.

F-47 AA-1 version or production model will likely look different from the prototype.
 
And to add, if the F-47 has Canards, it cannot be a 5th Gen or 6th Gen platform as per what many said about J-20 not being a "true" 5th gen platform because it had canards.

Just saying ....
 
If I remember correctly, you previously mentioned that you had already conducted secret flight tests, and now you're saying the first flight will be in two years? So which one is the real information?

Well, they would say the "equipments and radars etc" meant for this yth generation plane have been testing on other platforms. Thats what these American posters responded to me when I asked the same question.
 
And to add, if the F-47 has Canards, it cannot be a 5th Gen or 6th Gen platform as per what many said about J-20 not being a "true" 5th gen platform because it had canards.

Just saying ....
Who said it had canards?
 
Well, they would say the "equipments and radars etc" meant for this yth generation plane have been testing on other platforms. Thats what these American posters responded to me when I asked the same question.
Yes, just like Musk's repeated claim year after year that he would lead Americans to Mars.
 
If I remember correctly, you previously mentioned that you had already conducted secret flight tests, and now you're saying the first flight will be in two years? So which one is the real information?

Yes, Boeings prototype has been flying since 2019. What hasn’t flown is a final production F-47. The prototype did the technological heavy lifting. Its essentially what the YF-22 was before final production F-22.
 

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