Discussion of the F-47 Design, Development, and Progressing Toward First Flight and Manufacturing

[F-22Raptor]

What is the value of air superiority? After all, U.S. military bases and expensive radar facilities in the Gulf states were devastated by missiles and drones. Your navy as been withdrawn from the region. You MAGA American need to wake up pal, America is being used as FODDER ^ for Israel.

Are you Jewish by any chance?

The USAF is still operating out of Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and UAE. Hosting around 350-400 fighters and tankers still today. Base damage has only had minimal effect on operations.

The Navy hasn’t withdrawn from the region, as we’re 70 days into the blockade. If you’re referring to the 5th fleet base, that was evacuated in February. Outside some resupply issues that have since been resolved, USN operations in the region are full steam ahead.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Folks, keep the discussion focused on the F-47.

There are two dedicated threads for discussing the Iran/Israel/US conflict. This is not one of them.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Probably daft question to ask. US don’t need a huge fleet of expensive stealth Jets if you have air superiority around the globe, so just makes a lot sense to have a big fleet of non-stealth jets like build a new F16 viper that have the latest tech to participate in the modern battle-space. Case in point: B-52.

Can latest F-16 and F-15EX stand against J-20/J-35 and upcoming J-36/J-50?

 

[KingQamaR]

Can latest F-16 and F-15EX stand against J-20/J-35 and upcoming J-36/J-50?

My point is 4TH Gen jets aren’t going anywhere, they’ll still gonna be the workhorses. F16 latest viper is not to be underestimated by any one.

 

[Oscar]

This statement of yours is an outright lie.

USA established partial superiority that was still be challenged over specific select areas, and the bulk of its strikes done against Iran were done using long range SOW's ...

The last time USA tried to do a major operation directly over Iran was in April, it lost a few aircraft in that operation.

What is the proof for your statement?
Considering that the entirety of Iranian AD was dismantled within 2 weeks.

What "few aircraft" did it lose? The onus is on you to prove your own statement is not an outright lie.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

My point is 4TH Gen jets aren’t going anywhere, they’ll still gonna be the workhorses. F16 latest viper is not to be underestimated by any one.

yes, but against other 4thgen jets

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Unlike some posters here, I know fighter pilots. And, I know of some of the training they go through to the extent they are able to share without violating security. They are more than capable of taking the fight to any adversary.

I also concur that any fight against a capable adversary on their turf will be a tough one. Just as if they were to fight us on our own turf, it would be a bloody one.

You mentioned WWII. The Japanese pilots were no slouches either. The problem they had was a lack of advancement in aircraft nor did they rotate their pilots out to ensure new ones were being trained by experienced ones.

In Korea, it was a known fact the USAF often fought against MiGs piloted by Russians.

The WWII Japan was only 1/10 of the US industrial prowess, and it was never a serious contender.

And the attack on the pearl harbor was just a desperate measure against the blockade.

And China does consider the entire Indo-Pacific as its turf.

The J-36 will have a combat radius of 1800 nautical miles without aerial refueling, and the J-50 will have 1200 nautical miles.

And the F-47 will have a combat radius similar to the J-50 to support the US bases in Japan and South Korea from the second island chain.

 

[Pioneer]

Brothers. Calm. This is just a thread about the American PPT fighter jet.

Some people like PPT. Let him do it.

 

[ustaad]

With all due respect, that's complete b*******

You don't know what the US has done behind the scenes.

Just like the F-22 raptor is more than two decades old. Yet still the the best air superiority stealth fighter on the face of the Earth

So I wonder, what is the USA currently working on now that will dominate the skies for decades

Well this is a defence forum and here things are discussed based on available and verifiable information not some backdoor hopes and dreams.

 

[Beijingwalker]

So when the F-47 finally goes in mass production, China has his 8th generation fighterjet?

Half of US taxbudget goes to the jews, thats why they cant keep up with the Chinese.

Because in the end, money talks. Brains alone arent enough. China has plenty of both.

7th-8th generation at current development speed.China now is already the front runner in many of the new frontier technology that the world will see.

 

[Oscar]

Well this is a defence forum and here things are discussed based on available and verifiable information not some backdoor hopes and dreams.

On that logic the U-2 was not verified until Powers was shot down.
The A-12 was never known about even well after the SR-71 had flown.
The F-117 was used in combat, a crash covered up and so on more than 11-12 years prior to its public disclosure.

All discussion that were done on those aircraft prior to any official disclosure was all based on what you call hopes and dreams.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

7th-8th generation at current development speed.China now is already the front runner in many of the new frontier technology that the world will see.

I do believe Oscar's post below has shot down your premise.

 

[Pioneer]

On that logic the U-2 was not verified until Powers was shot down.
The A-12 was never known about even well after the SR-71 had flown.
The F-117 was used in combat, a crash covered up and so on more than 11-12 years prior to its public disclosure.

All discussion that were done on those aircraft prior to any official disclosure was all based on what you call hopes and dreams.

But I don't think Mr. Trump will keep secrets on X.

We assume that the F-47 has already been built and even tested. And Trump is willing to keep it secret. But. How can you convince me that it is logical to hype it up under confidentiality?

 

[F-22Raptor]

But I don't think Mr. Trump will keep secrets on X.

We assume that the F-47 has already been built and even tested. And Trump is willing to keep it secret. But. How can you convince me that it is logical to hype it up under confidentiality?

Boeings NGAD prototype has been flying for 7-8 years. Final production F-47 has not flown yet.

F-47 is “hyped up” because the US has a long history of developing the most advanced aircraft in the world and F-47 is the successor to the F-22.

 

[Flotilla]

What is the proof for your statement?
Considering that the entirety of Iranian AD was dismantled within 2 weeks.

So why does US and Israel NOT enter?
fear?