Discussion of the F-47 Design, Development, and Progressing Toward First Flight and Manufacturing

[Afif]

Because all your viewpoints are based on speculation.

No, some of you is just trolling around.

Everyone here knows basic history of USAF AC development and how it works.

There is YF- prototype/tech demonstrator and F- production variant.

YF-22 started flying in 1990. F-22 took its first flight in 1997.

X-35 tech demonstrator flew in 2000. While F-35 first prototype flew in 2006.

NGAD prototype flew in 2020. And production representative F-47 will fly 2028. Nothing radical here.

 

[Pioneer]

No, some of you is just trolling around.

Everyone here knows basic history of USAF AC development and how it works.

There is YF- prototype/tech demonstrator and F- production variant.

YF-22 started flying in 1990. F-22 took its first flight in 1997.

X-35 tech demonstrator flew in 2000. While F-35 first prototype flew in 2006.

NGAD prototype flew in 2020. And production representative F-47 will fly 2028. Nothing radical here.

Thank you for your understanding. We can actually directly discuss NGAD. Nothing else.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

No, some of you is just trolling around.

Everyone here knows basic history of USAF AC development and how it works.

There is YF- prototype/tech demonstrator and F- production variant.

YF-22 started flying in 1990. F-22 took its first flight in 1997.

X-35 tech demonstrator flew in 2000. While F-35 first prototype flew in 2006.

NGAD prototype flew in 2020. And production representative F-47 will fly 2028. Nothing radical here.

They did fly a scaled down tech demonstrator in 2020, and the 1:1 prototype is scheduled to conduct its maiden flight in 2028.

 

[F-22Raptor]

They did fly a scaled down tech demonstrator in 2020, and the 1:1 prototype is scheduled to conduct its maiden flight in 2028.

What will fly in 2028 will be final production representative, similar to the B-21. The technological advancement has been completed, now it’s just about integrating that into the production model and testing that for operations.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Some of the thread participants are clearly worked up because nothing is known about the US stealth aircraft programs other that what has been authorized for public disclosure yet somehow the Chinese prototypes are superior even though they admit the designs are still evolving.

In other words, prototypes.

 

[F-22Raptor]

F-47 airplane​

Under research and development contracts with DARPA, Boeing and Lockheed Martin designed two X-planes as risk reduction for the Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) Platform. These aircraft first flew in 2019 and 2022, logging several hundred hours each.

As reflected in the statement from Chief of Staff of the Air Force Gen. David Allvin: “For the past five years, the X-planes for this aircraft have been quietly laying the foundation for the F-47 — flying hundreds of hours, testing cutting-edge concepts, and proving that we can push the envelope of technology with confidence.”

F-47 airplane | DARPA

Under research and development contracts with DARPA, Boeing and Lockheed Martin designed two X-planes as risk reduction for the Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) Platform. As reflected in the statement from Chief of Staff of the Air Force Gen. David Allvin: “For the past five years, the...

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These were clearly full scale prototypes with both aircraft flying hundreds of hours each. In comparison the YF-22 prototype flew 91 hours and YF-23 65 hours.

What flys in 2028 will be F-47 production representative. The US is past the prototyping stage.

 

[HERO]

China's peace is based on its own strength! Does the United States have experience fighting an opponent of equal strength? Proving its strength and gaining experience by attacking weak countries? Proving its strength by beating up a kindergarten child?

 

[Pioneer]

Strange. Who ever said that Chinese prototypes are superior? We're just saying ~ PPT is just a PPT.

 

[KAL-EL]

China's peace is based on its own strength! Does the United States have experience fighting an opponent of equal strength? Proving its strength and gaining experience by attacking weak countries? Proving its strength by beating up a kindergarten child?

What does this have to do with the subject?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Let's stick to the topic folks.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Good, keep it up, numbers would always win in the end, proven in every war in the history.

Except if you are the Incas or Aztecs.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Strange. Who ever said that Chinese prototypes are superior? We're just saying ~ PPT is just a PPT.

You may be seeing only PPT for now. But, do not be surprised when the USAF reveals one to the public. It could very easily be another of those "oh ****" moments like when the F-117 was finally revealed to the public.

And of course, some of you are bound to laugh. Won't bother me.

 

[Pioneer]

You may be seeing only PPT for now. But, do not be surprised when the USAF reveals one to the public. It could very easily be another of those "oh ****" moments like when the F-117 was finally revealed to the public.

And of course, some of you are bound to laugh. Won't bother me.

Yes. We'll see it. Maybe in 5 or 10 years. After all, there is no time constraint. It's like a country that aimed to build the world's most advanced fighter jet in the 1980s, and finally, in the 2020s, this world-leading fighter jet is about to be put into service. If you think that one day in the future, we must feel "absolutely terrible", please remind us. We'll go back and write "OMG".

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

You may be seeing only PPT for now. But, do not be surprised when the USAF reveals one to the public. It could very easily be another of those "oh ****" moments like when the F-117 was finally revealed to the public.

And of course, some of you are bound to laugh. Won't bother me.

Sir can we have thread ban of some of Chinese members trolling to keep this thread clean and focus here like @Beijingwalker @Pioneer and @HERO thanks

 

[Yommie]

How the tables have turned. Back in 90s the US had F-16 and China had J-7 and China was playing catching up. Now it is the US playing catching up.