Doctor's mindset

[ziaulislam]

Long and un healthy diseased life.

Yup Japanese have long and unhealthy disease life where as indians are killing it by dropping dead in their 40s

 

[عقاب]

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Respectfully no, it is a False judgement.

 

[Mrloveday]

Yup Japanese have long and unhealthy disease life where as indians are killing it by dropping dead in their 40s

Average life span of a vedic Indian was 250 years.

We had special holy cows who used to inhale carbon dioxide and exhale oxygen. Also their urine cured any disease.

These days we have these useless western hybrid unholy cows.

 

[halupridol]

Because of Rockefeller great conspiracy everyone is living a long life in western world..ain't that good things...in Pakistan nah..


Don't get one thing..why don't the people have same conspiracy with antibiotics.. everyone is gulps up several augmentin all year along

Add pantoprazole, everyone loves it too

 

[halupridol]

For OP,Bagheera,you need help.
Try Telemanas,call 14416.

 

[ziaulislam]

Add pantoprazole, everyone loves it too

Useless medication for most people apart from heavy eaters.


used in Pakistan for commission

 

[Sharma Ji]

Yup Japanese have long and unhealthy disease life where as indians are killing it by dropping dead in their 40s

Subcontinent mein diet ka bhi kaafi lafda hai, that, and sedentary lifestyles. If people only took care of what they put in their bodies, problem ni na hoti aadhey se zyada.

I shouldn't one to talk, but.. I'm as guilty lol

 

[SecularNationalist]

I wanted to suggest diseases in order to help doctors arrive at correct diagnosis. But the mindset of doctors is a problem. The behavior of doctors is as follows:

• Doctors don’t have an open mind. Their refrain is, “We are professionals. We know better.” When they are students in medical college, it is drilled into future doctor’s head, “Don’t listen to patients.” They forget that laymen patients can reveal something because they are the ones experiencing the symptoms.

• I think it is because medicos aren’t trained to deal with certain situations. When they were studying medical, they weren’t instructed on what to do if they come across anything unique/strange/unfamiliar. They see everything through the prism of known diseases. The culture of out-of-the-box thinking is not there. They simply dismiss the patient by citing some universal condition. I suspect that doctors suffer from ‘frog in the well’ syndrome. Just as frogs cannot imagine a world beyond it’s well, doctors are discouraged from thinking anything outside the realm of documented diseases.

• There are some ‘universal diseases’ which doctors use to wash their hands off patients. The symptoms of these universal diseases are present in everyone to some degree. So it is hard to argue with doctors. For instance, if anyone is unemployed and poor or suffers from cancer, obviously he would be worried and/or sad and obsessed about his problems. Would it be proper for medical professionals to declare it as anxiety or depression or OCD? The sufferer’s problem would be unemployment and poverty or cancer NOT anxiety/depression/OCD. Slightest of distress in patient and doctors jump to conclusions that it is anxiety, depression, stress, OCD etc. One doctor actually uttered this line, “Looking at the TONE of your description, it seems it is anxiety/depression/OCD.”

• Most doctors lack the patience to notice subtle things and pursue difficult concepts. They forget that many functions are apparently simple and taken for granted. But if there is a slight change in the mechanism of these functions, it paralyzes the patient. Most doctors overlook that some subtle changes damage the patient just enough to ruin his life but not enough for others (at least lay people) to notice it.

• So stubborn are doctors about the ambit of known-documented diseases that some ignore the symptoms present in the patient and thrust the symptoms absent in the patient to ensure that patient comes within the ambit of known-documented diseases. One guy who had ‘diagnosed’ depression, anxiety, stress etc actually told me, “When are you happy? Admit that you are never happy.”

• When you demand explanation for the symptoms not matching with diagnosed disease, doctors have endless number of excuses to brush aside the question. For example if the patient asks the doctor to check in his textbooks whether the exhibited symptoms and the symptoms of the diagnosed disease are same, the doctor replies, “Yes, in advanced stages of the disease, these symptoms appear,” although it is not true. It seems when doctors do MBBS, they are trained to churn out excuses. Some doctors even ridicule the demand for diagnosis i.e. leave alone correctness of the diagnosis, it would be big thing if they just reveal the diagnosis.

Examples of excuses doctors churn out. It should tell about the attitude of doctors.

1. Once when I began to complain about memory damage, pat came the doctor’s reply, “Everybody’s caliber is not the same.”
Explanation: Memory damage can happen to Einstein-Newton as well as to a retard. Where does the question of caliber come in this?

2. When I complain of doctors not reading the description of symptoms properly, I was actually told that it is because they don’t have time.
Explanation: My description takes barely 15 minutes to read. If doctors can’t spare 15 minutes to know symptoms, why are they in the profession of psychiatry then? It is their duty to spend time in properly reading the description.

3. When I suggested that mobile phone waves may be causing neurological problems, they asked one illogical question, “Why mobile waves don’t affect others?”
Explanation: Most people may be immune to effects of mobile phone waves but few may be susceptible. Thus mobile waves may indeed be the cause albeit affecting only minority of people. Why ask this senseless question?

4. If doctors make diagnosis of disease ‘A’ and I point out to them that actually the symptoms of disease ‘B’ match with my ordeal, their answer is: Both disease ‘A’ and disease ‘B’ are one and the same. If you have any one of them, you automatically get the other. Disease ‘A’ is the advanced stage of disease ‘B’ and vice versa.
Explanation: You cannot win argument with doctors even if your points are valid.

All of the above are real life anecdotes. Including the one regarding thrusting absent symptoms (mentioned elsewhere).

• After all the hurdles are cleared and if at all the doctor understands that the disease may indeed be something undiscovered, he would be indifferent to the concerns of the patient. He would not suggest the next course of action like way to contact clinical researchers. Doctors are like, “This is some undiscovered disease. What do I care? Tell him anything and just dismiss the patient.”

• Another grouse I have about medical fraternity is their blind support for doctors. They don’t see the merits of the case. They support other doctors just because they are doctors.

• I also hear sermons about trusting doctors. For reader’s information, initially for a very long time I trusted doctors completely i.e. for four long years during a crucial period of life. I took doctor’s words at face value. It is doctors who should be questioned why they make patients lose faith in the system by not giving proper response and clearing valid doubts. That is how doctors force patients to surmise that their condition is some undiscovered disease. For instance, in 17 years of consultation with umpteen doctors, not once did I hear a single sentence which I can relate with. Not once did I get the feeling, “The doctor’s description is reminiscent of my ordeal.

Damn right you are.
My Gf is a 2nd year Mbbs student in one of the top medical colleges of pakistan. And she think she knows better than anyone,even ones with a bigger age who has a real life experience and wisdom. When I try to correct her she calls me a hakeem and make fun of me lol. Yet it was me who helped her to get rid of her depression medicine. I asked her to deal with depression through excercise,diet and healthy lifestyle.

 

[ziaulislam]

Damn right you are.
My Gf is a 2nd year Mbbs student in one of the top medical colleges of pakistan. And she think she knows better than anyone,even ones with a bigger age who has a real life experience and wisdom. When I try to correct her she calls me a hakeem and make fun of me lol. Yet it was me who helped her to get rid of her depression medicine. I asked her to deal with depression through excercise,diet and healthy lifestyle.

Pakistani doctors are arrogant and don't have any ethical standards...not surprised

 

[Mrloveday]

Damn right you are.
My Gf is a 2nd year Mbbs student in one of the top medical colleges of pakistan. And she think she knows better than anyone,even ones with a bigger age who has a real life experience and wisdom. When I try to correct her she calls me a hakeem and make fun of me lol. Yet it was me who helped her to get rid of her depression medicine. I asked her to deal with depression through excercise,diet and healthy lifestyle.

Females don't understand what real depression is.

Life is easy for them. They can always play the victim card and get things they don't deserve.

Have you ever seen a depressed female look like this?

 

[SecularNationalist]

Females don't understand what real depression is.

Life is easy for them. They can always play the victim card and get things they don't deserve.

Have you ever seen a depressed female look like this?
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Yea full of drama lol. They make fuss about little things in life. Unthankful behaviour in simple words.

 

[JaneBhiDoYaaron]

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I would not say that, there are brilliant doctors in alternative medicine also. It is just in world full of cheater we don’t trust anyone. Hell I read reviews about doctors before going to one or we get second opinion.


I agree with @Sharma Ji I hear many cases in India where person goes for normal check up and ends up with stent even if not needed because just in case. Who is gonna take chance.

 

[ziaulislam]

I would not say that, there are brilliant doctors in alternative medicine also. It is just in world full of cheater we don’t trust anyone. Hell I read reviews about doctors before going to one or we get second opinion.


I agree with @Sharma Ji I hear many cases in India where person goes for normal check up and ends up with stent even if not needed because just in case. Who is gonna take chance.

It's simple maths

A brilliant ALTERNATIVE doctor can simple take 100 patients and do a simple randomized double blinded trial

If you believe in a treatment and can't even find 100 patients to do a simple randomized trial then I am sorry to say but you are Full of shit..

Shitty experience doesn't count just simple do a blinded study..

You believe in lemon juice, well do a study publish it, can anyone replicate it ? They should be ..

2+2 = 4 simple maths nothing rocket science here
Simple 2X2 Pearson chi square sum of scores and you get 95% predictability

And don't tell me this can't happen, Chinese malaria medication have similar local trials done and they were replicated

 

[Suresh Naresh]

Whenever you travel by plane in future, please suppress the urge to try to suggest the pilot how to fly the airplane. I don't want you to be arrested for attempted plane hijacking.

But what to do if a professional doctor's diagnosis is incorrect? How do I know that it was incorrect? Doctor 'diagnosed' it as disease 'A'. But my symptoms didn't match with disease 'A'. My symptoms matched with that of some other disease.

 

[Paitoo]

But what to do if a professional doctor's diagnosis is incorrect? How do I know that it was incorrect? Doctor 'diagnosed' it as disease 'A'. But my symptoms didn't match with disease 'A'. My symptoms matched with that of some other disease.

Are you a google doctor? How can you be certain your symptoms match with some other disease? Online health websites provide a vast range of symptoms, with a lot of overlap. Search for anything and you will realise you have symptoms of it. They are all doing SEO optimization and want people to visit their site.
If you think one doctor's diagnosis is not correct, get a second or third opinion. Or even a 4th one. If you are still convinced that your self diagnosis is correct, then what are you waiting for? Get treatment for that disease