Foinikas
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The HMS Glasgow is also taking an immense amount of time to be finished and ready for war.
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KingQamaR
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Your new French FDI Frigates look impressive. They are said to be the best frigates on the market.
Foinikas
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It's great and with a few modifications it can be even better I guess,but our problem right now is the ECM. There's few news about what ECM we will actually install and when.
KingQamaR
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For a frigate it packs a lot of firepower and capabilities in a small ship. With it comes state of art Seafire radar, capitals-4 sonar, the latest iteration of Aster 30 missiles and an upcoming capability to pack land attack cruise missiles. I wish our Pakistan Navy could have gotten few of this frigate.
Ali_Baba
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Well, that is the UK MOD doing what it does best, f-------g up every single military procurement programme it can.
Foinikas
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Ali_Baba
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Inside the Army’s £6bn Ajax disaster
Inside the Army’s £6bn Ajax disaster
The tank programme was meant to revolutionise modern warfare, but now a spiralling scandal has put its future in doubt
www.telegraph.co.uk
Foinikas
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ΑΠΟΚΛΕΙΣΤΙΚΟ: Το ΥΠΕΘΑ εξετάζει αγορά πυραύλων RBS-15 Mk4 Gungnir μέσω SAFE - Πτήση
Σύμφωνα με πληροφορίες του navaldefence.gr και του flight.com.gr, το ΥΠΕΘΑ μέσω ΓΕΕΘΑ έχει ζητήσει να ενταχθεί στον ευρωπαϊκό μηχανισμό χρηματοδότησης, SAFE, πρόγραμμα για απόκτηση νέας γενιάς αντιπλοικών πυραύλων RBS-15. Με κύριο αντικείμενο την έκδοση Mk4 Gungnir και με άμεσο ενδιαφέρον και...
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According to information from navaldefence.gr and flight.com.gr, the Ministry of National Defense, through the Hellenic National Defense General Staff, has requested to join the European funding mechanism, SAFE, a program for the acquisition of a new generation of RBS-15 anti-ship missiles. With the main objective of the Mk4 Gungnir version and with direct interest in the latest generation Mk3. This is a development of particular importance, as it combines a low financial footprint, immediate availability and enormous operational results, in a period where the replacement of the old Harpoon is an urgent need, especially in view of the acquisition of the Bergamini-class frigates.
The RBS-15 Mk3 and Mk4 constitute a European family of anti-ship missiles that simultaneously covers use by surface ships, aircraft and coastal batteries, enabling common stocks and a unified philosophy of use. Participation in SAFE allows the Hellenic Navy to operate within a total budget of around 100 million euros, securing a number of missiles that would be impossible in a national program, while at the same time creating “surplus capabilities” to cover not only frigates but also other sectors.
The RBS-15 Mk3 is a fully mature and proven weapon, with operational presence in several European navies. It has a large warhead of approximately 200 kg and is designed with the logic of destroying a large surface ship with a single hit. The one shot one kill philosophy is not theoretical, but the result of a combination of a heavy warhead, an extremely low altitude flight profile and high resistance to interference.
The missile can operate without reliance on GPS (in the latest version it shares electronics with the Mk4), utilizing inertial navigation, and the active radar seeker in the final stage, something critical in an environment of intense electronic warfare such as the Aegean.
The next version, the Mk4 Gungnir, is the evolution of this philosophy. Its main advantage is the range that exceeds 300 kilometers, where the flight takes place entirely at an extremely low altitude, in a sea skimming profile, from launch to the final attack. This makes it extremely difficult to detect and even more difficult to intercept, especially in a saturated environment where enemy units will be approaching threats from everywhere at the same time.
The weapon is also designed to be able to navigate with great precision, without the use of GPS. While it maintains the same heavy warhead as the Mk3, so a successful hit is sufficient to neutralize a modern frigate.
The good price per missile, combined with the financing and economies of scale of SAFE, turns the RBS-15 into an ideal tool for "locking" the Aegean. So we are talking about a weapon that can control sea lanes at distances that until recently were considered prohibitive, without requiring expensive platforms or complex support solutions. The ability to be used as a coastal artillery weapon further multiplies its value, creating a network of interdiction for the enemy, from sea, air and land.
If the participation of the Hellenic Navy in SAFE ultimately leads to a signature for the RBS-15 Mk3 and especially Mk4, we will be talking about one of the most substantial moves to strengthen the country's naval power in recent years. It should be noted that the weapon is carried by the Swedish Saab Gripen, but in Greek service it may be armed by the Hellenic Air Force's F-16V. On a political level, such a development can rightly be presented as the first success of the leadership of the Ministry of National Defense with regard to SAFE, as it will utilize a European tool to fill a critical defense gap.
Foinikas
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Iron Beam: Η «laser ασπίδα» που αλλάζει την εξίσωση της αεράμυνας - Ανοιχτό το Ισραήλ να το αποδεσμεύσει στην Ελλάδα
Για την Ελλάδα, το Iron Beam μπορεί να είναι το στοιχείο που θα κάνει τον αντιαεροπορικό «θόλο» πραγματικά ανθεκτικό απέναντι σε κάθε απειλή.
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OnAlert.gr's information reports that within the framework of the upgraded cooperation between Greece and Israel, Tel Aviv has expressed its intention to release the system to our country, with Greece now in the frame as the first potential user outside of Israel.
From operational integration into the IDF to “unlocking” to Athens
The concept of “unlocking” such systems is not a simple political statement. It translates into access to technical data, availability for an intergovernmental agreement, a production and delivery schedule, and most importantly, integration into a comprehensive solution package that includes radar, C2, and interconnection with existing systems, rather than a stand-alone system.
As early as 2024–2025, it was reported in the public debate that Greece was considering Israeli laser solutions as part of its future multi-layered air defense. In the summer of 2025, there were clear indications of interest in such systems, as part of a broader search for anti-drone/anti-rocket capabilities.
The “key” however is that Israel – in parallel with operational maturity – is accelerating production. In October 2024, a 2 billion shekel deal was announced to expand Iron Beam production with Rafael and Elbit. This agreement indicated that the program was not treated as a “technological demo”, but as a mass need that must be translated into numbers.
OnAlert.gr had the opportunity last September to watch the presentation of the Iron Beam and its classified features in Israel. The presentation included, among other things, a video of a drone being shot down using the Iron Beam over the Negev Desert.
On the Greek side, the window of opportunity is opening right now as Greece is in talks with Israel to create a multi-layered anti-aircraft/anti-drone network (“Achilles Shield”), with an estimated cost of around 3 billion euros, while other Israeli procurements/collaborations are also “running” in the same context.
It was recently decided to acquire 36 PULS missile artillery systems, the upgrade of Apache helicopters is underway, the Air Force is proceeding with the receipt of Rampage and Spice, while the Army has already received Spike NLOS.
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Foinikas
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They gave Oreshnik to Belarus or only for Russian forces in Belarus?
Yommie
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To Belarus army.
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