Gaza-Israel Conflict | 2023-2024

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In all the wars that Israel fought with the Arabs, it was killed, as Lieutenant General Saad Al-Shazly and many military experts said, in two aspects: the first: the prolongation of the war and the second: its human losses. So why does Israel continue the war despite its huge human losses and its exceeding eight months, making it one of the longest wars in its history?



* Because it is the only existential war that Israel fought after the 1948 war. This war made all of the Israeli security theory in vain and worthless, and made the question urgently asked: Is it really that Israel’s future is over and that Israel will disappear before the end of the eighth decade?

If Israel does not win a complete victory in this war, its end has come and the countdown to its demise has begun. Therefore, Netanyahu is fighting for victory, no matter the loss it costs him. This war has become a zero-sum war for either Hamas or Israel. Therefore, Netanyahu says that stopping the war in this situation is a defeat that threatens the existence of Israel.

Israel is finished not even the US and its poodles can save it now, it sealed its fate the moment it started the genocide.

 

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If Israel's government wants the war to continue for years, Hamas has prepared for this, and if it wants to end the war and go for a deal, Hamas has prepared for this, and if it wants to ignite a regional war, Hamas has prepared for this... Do not forget that Hamas is the one who ignited the battle and is the one who planned its stages. And its future scenarios.. Israel is just a reaction..

 

[The SC]

Enemy media - Wala from sources

Israel informed Qatar of its rejection of the Hamas movement’s condition regarding obtaining written American, Qatari, and Egyptian pledges to continue negotiations without time restrictions.

In other words -

The occupation and Netanyahu want to receive its prisoners in the first phase of the deal and then return to war in the second phase, while refusing to be restricted from ending the war even while negotiations continue, in order to reach a complete agreement..


The dispute between Hamas and Israel concerns Article 14 of the Israeli proposal, which relates to the duration of negotiations between the two parties on the terms of the second phase of the agreement, which should lead to “permanent peace” in Gaza.

Clause 14 states that the United States, Qatar, and Egypt “will make every effort” to ensure that these negotiations end with an agreement and that the ceasefire will continue as long as the negotiations continue. In the response that Hamas submitted to Israel on Wednesday, the movement demanded that the phrase “exert every effort” be deleted and replaced by the word "guarantee"

The United States presented a compromise formula on this clause, and proposed using the word “pledge,” which is less binding than the word “we will guarantee,” but more binding than the word “make every effort.”

 

[The SC]

Israeli Channel 13:

Israel wants to ensure its ability to resume the war if Hamas does not fulfill its commitments.

The army believes that what is happening is an opportunity to reach a deal and that the war against Hamas will take many years..


Israeli Channel 13, citing army sources:

Israel will be forced to withdraw from the Rafah crossing and the Netzarim axis after the agreement

 

[muhammed45]

The issue is not the Arabs or anything else. The idea is that this issue is seen as a replacement of the Zionist occupation forces with other international or Arab forces.
By the way, Ismail Haniyeh himself said that there is no objection to the presence of Arab forces if they agree with all the Palestinians.

There are no Arab forces... except after the war and with an understanding with all the Palestinians..

The European force that was brought in by the Palestinian authority when Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, and Hamas won the elections in 2006, Hamas ruled the Gaza Strip after the military victory in 2007. This force was only holding the crossings, it was not inside Gaza.

Arabs will surely try to end what Israelis couldn't finish. Finish Hamas

Arabs proved themselves in PA. What happened in the end?

Till 7th Oct, all Arabs were asking for normalization with Israel. What happened?

More like Arab monarchs got afraid of their people. The day Arabs enter Gaza, it will be the end of armed resistance.

 

[The SC]

Arabs will surely try to end what Israelis couldn't finish. Finish Hamas

Arabs proved themselves in PA. What happened in the end?

Till 7th Oct, all Arabs were asking for normalization with Israel. What happened?

More like Arab monarchs got afraid of their people. The day Arabs enter Gaza, it will be the end of armed resistance.

all Arabs were asking for normalization with Israel.

Where did you get this from?

 

[Persian Gulf]

all Arabs were asking for normalization with Israel.

Where did you get this from?

are you really not ashamed of this?

 

[Meengla]

I love posts like these in mainstream Israeli media! Further erodes the morale of the Israelis when senior military leaders, even if retired ones, paint a bleak picture for Israel. And the guy is absolutely right: Hezbollah has Israel where it was needed: A war of attrition which slowly but seriously hurts Israel on more than the military front but without dragging in the (reluctant) Americans, which would be Netanyahu's dream comes true.
Read and enjoy!

Fmr. IDF Maj. Gen.: This is worst time for Israel to open multi-fronted war

Maj. Gen. Israel Ziv warns Hezbollah is comfortable with starting war, advises against deeper involvement in Rafah or escalation with Iran while stressing the need for clear goals.

www.jpost.com

Fmr. IDF Maj. Gen.: This is worst time for Israel to open multi-fronted war​

Maj. Gen. Israel Ziv warns Hezbollah is comfortable with starting war, advises against deeper involvement in Rafah or escalation with Iran while stressing the need for clear goals.​

Former IDF Maj. Gen. Israel Ziv spoke recently with Udi Segal and Anat Davidov on 103FM radio about the military situation in the North and the Gaza Strip.

Regarding the northern sector, Ziv opened by saying, "The main thing in Nasrallah's thoughts in coordination with the Iranians is the position of the United States. For them, the option of bringing Israel into a long war of attrition is convenient. They are already in it. How do we know that? We see that there were enough opportunities to stop or reduce the attacks, but they are on their own. They understand that Israel is in a pretty deep situation in Gaza with no solution, when the situation in the North is very much in their favor. They succeeded at the beginning of the war, and their attacks continue because they see that they are successfully crushing the settlements in the North and in Galilee."

"Therefore, I think they are not impressed by a few more battalions going up North. The American position is the most critical issue for them. It is clear to us that because the United States is entering the last phase of the elections, they will be much less patient. Although they are watching Israel, they are also focused on Washington."


"Increasing military action is the wrong tactic unless Israel wants to enter a war - and I very much hope that it does not want to enter a war. Entering a war in Lebanon in sequence with the existing war leads to a high probability that it will also enter a war with Iran. This is the worst time for the State of Israel to open multiple fronts in the war. What is the goal? After nine months of war, do we have a good reason to start another one?"

Ziv concluded his remarks regarding the North, "I am sure that with all the problems we have, we should not enter a war when we do not know how to define its goal. If we decide to bring Hezbollah to the situation Hamas is in, it will cause major problems."

Ziv's comments regarding the fighting in the Gaza Strip​

"Staying in Rafah? What that actually means is the occupation of the Strip. That's where we will find the Rafah crossing, which is an international crossing. I'm not sure that we are in a position to receive such an agreement. How do we monitor this from the outside? This is a very difficult question if there is no Egyptian cooperation. There is no management of the war in Gaza and there is no clarity on the situation from the government."

Ziv then concluded, "It's not that in the end we won't be held accountable as an occupier. In the eyes of the United Nations and internationally, Israel has occupied the Strip. Very soon we will meet the Hague and the UN Security Council. The Americans are making an effort to stop it, but somehow Netanyahu manages to destroy the efforts."

 

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