Genocide of Indigenous Peoples

[passer-by]

Yes, if that happened, it's genocide. actually during Qing dynasty, the Qing government did commit some genocides targetting certain ethnic groups.

Then how is it different than Nationalist and Communist?

 

[Beijingwalker]

It matters, because that's the entire block you build on, because you said if they are the same person, there will not be considered Genocide......

It depends on if they believe they are the same people, if they do, then it's not genocide, if they don't, it's genocide, designing to kill a whole ethnic group.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Then how is it different than Nationalist and Communist?

Are you crazy？ people belonging to different political parties genociding each other, doesn't it sound weird to you? republicans genocide democrats, abolitionist genocide slave owners...?

 

[passer-by]

It depends on if they believe they are the same people, if they do, then it's not genocide, if they don't, it's genocide, designing to kill a whole ethnic group.

What you are saying did not make sense

Either they are the same people and that's not genocide by your "Nationalist and Communist" Chinese argument, but then you said it was then it come to Chinese Uighur and Chinese Korean, then you said they are different people like German and German Jew, and you also consider that genocide??

You are contradicting yourself here.

 

[passer-by]

Are you crazy？ people belonging to different political parties genociding each other, doesn't it sound weird to you? republicans genocide democrats, abolitionist genocide slave owners...?

But then you also consider Chinese Korean and Chinese Uigur being prosecuted by Han as Genocide, again, do you consider ethic Korean Chinese Citizen or ethnic Uighur Chinese citizens NOT THE SAME as Chinese Han?

 

[Beijingwalker]

Either they are the same people and that's not genocide by your "Nationalist and Communist" Chinese

Are republicans and democrats in US the same people?

 

[passer-by]

Are republicans and democrats in US the same people?

I don't know, what's your definition of "same" here? are Uighur and Han the same people?

 

[Beijingwalker]

But then you also consider Chinese Korean and Chinese Uigur being prosecuted by Han as Genocide, again, do you consider ethic Korean Chinese Citizen or ethnic Uighur Chinese citizens NOT THE SAME as Chinese Han?

If they were killed off , yes, that will be genocide, if US republicans killed off democrats, I won't call it genocide.

 

[Beijingwalker]

are Uighur and Han the same people?

Ethnically, no. but both Uyghurs and Hans can be Chinese citizens.

 

[passer-by]

If they were killed off , yes, that will be genocide, if US republicans killed off democrats, I won't call it genocide.

Then if we go by your definition, then it still would have been because you said Uighur and Korean being killed off in Qing were genocide.

 

[passer-by]

Ethnically, no. but both Uyghurs and Hans can be Chinese citizens.

So by that you mean they are different then if genocide can happen, even if they are both Chinese Citizen?

 

[Beijingwalker]

So by that you mean they are different then if genocide can happen, even if they are both Chinese Citizen?

Yes, like I said, Qing dynasty committed some genocides within its boundary against some targetted ethnic groups.

 

[passer-by]

Yes, like I said, Qing dynasty committed some genocides within its boundary against some targetting ethnic groups.

Then if they are both Chinese Citizens of different ethnic group, then why Republican killing Democrats are not genocide? Mind you, you can be of different ethnicity to be either group, it is not Republican = white and Democrat = colour and they are both US citizens.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Then if they are both Chinese Citizens, then why Republican killing Democrats are not genocide? Mind you, you can be of different ethnicity to be either group, it is not Republican = white and Democrat = colour and they are both US citizens.

Do you call US civil war genocide? if you do, be it. at least most people in the world don't.

 

[passer-by]

Do you call US civil war genocide? if you do, be it. at least most people in the world don't.

I wouldn't call that, not because they are the same people or different like you claim. I wouldn't call that because that is not a total prosecution of either side. Being the same or different people have no bearing on what's been call genocide. Nor was all war automatically called Genocide.

Would you call Korean War genocide? It's white/other against Asian
Would you call Vietnam War genocide? It's white/other against Asian
Would you call Falkland war Genocide? It's white/other against Hispanic.
Would you call Congo Civil War Genocide? It's white/african against African.