German economy is collapsing

It is difficult to feel sympathetic to Germany given their massive support of the Genocide in Gaza.

China is moving into high end industrial manufacturing areas, that will affect Germany more than any other nation in Europe. It's not just the end products like cars, but the "machines that make the machines that then make the cars" that China is also focused on.

Their car industry is an endangered species . No adaptation to modern times, ghastly overpriced, lack of innovation and so on.
You're right, higher up the industrial level their presence is zero.
 
Germans support Israel

So what can we say

They still offer free weapons to genocide
Germans are so smart - first they genocide dirty Jews and then claim Palestinians and other Arabs must pay for German crimes and for this purpose they support Israeli genocide of the Palestinians

BTW I Invite everyone to come to the ANNUAL Day of the Open Doors in the German Chancellery that takes place in Berlin every year in summer......German Chancellor is present there and everyone can meet him personally.....I met Angela Merkel twice in 2015 and 2017.....





 
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German industrial output falls to 2005 levels as auto sector craters

Weak August data raises risk of Eurozone’s biggest economy falling back into technical recession

German industrial production fell back to 2005 levels in August as output in the country’s all-important car industry cratered by 18.5 per cent compared with the previous month.

The unexpectedly poor data comes as German Chancellor Friedrich Merz is set to meet the bosses of the country’s carmakers on Thursday in Berlin to discuss the woes of the struggling sector. Merz has promised to reinvigorate the Eurozone’s biggest economy but has so far fallen flat.

Overall, industrial production fell 4.3 per cent in August compared with the previous month, seasonally adjusted data showed on Wednesday. Economists had predicted a smaller drop of 1 per cent in a Reuters poll.

Clear continuous decline after 2022. And why so? Because Ukraine war started in 2022. The war is taking a economic toll on all European union and NATO countries. They wanted to economically damage Russia but ended up damaging themselves.
 
Clear continuous decline after 2022. And why so? Because Ukraine war started in 2022. The war is taking a economic toll on all European union and NATO countries. They wanted to economically damage Russia but ended up damaging themselves.
German industry was dependent on cheap Russian gas. With the Ukraine war sanctions, Germans are now buying expensive American and Qatari gas instead. That has greatly increased cost of production for German industry and they have yet to find a solution.

I have also heard that German companies are also very risk averse and not amenable to change, which is bad in his modern cut throat business world.
 
I agree that the community is exceptional at commerce and education which gives them considerable clout, and hence are a good working partner. But then you need to admit that much their aid stems from deep rooted feelings to help what is essentially a European outpost among 'savages'.
I'd separate Germany's aid from the rest of the nations. They've always been the last to condemn anything about Israel, literally ask people coming to the nation about their views on the country, and gave Israel the ability to deliver nuclear weapons from submarines, which were free and heavily subsidized by German taxpayers. They are on a cuck level that no nation is on.

First 3 Dolphin-class submarines (1990s): Germany financed the majority of the cost. Two were essentially provided free of charge, while Germany and Israel shared the cost of the third. The German government later reported contributing about DM 1.1 billion toward these three boats.
4th and 5th submarines (2000s): Germany subsidised about one-third of their cost, rather than giving them outright.
6th submarine: Germany contributed up to €135 million, again roughly a third of the cost.
Latest/newer submarine deals: Germany has continued providing substantial subsidies; for example, the 2017 agreement for three future submarines involved a German contribution of €540 million.

I'm glad the Chinese are finishing them off in terms of industrial competition. Not long to go now.
I understand what you are saying.
Do you know the role of Germany in Pakistans nuclear program? Parts that we got, chips that we got and above all active technical support we got from them. Why? Because we were targeting their enemy. Same with Ukraine. Same with Ijrail.
Why we or Palestinians are "enemy" , not friends? And why today we see that all these supposedly evil forces are so powerful?
Answer lies in how we behave and what is our behavior with the things around us.
 
I understand what you are saying.
Do you know the role of Germany in Pakistans nuclear program? Parts that we got, chips that we got and above all active technical support we got from them. Why? Because we were targeting their enemy. Same with Ukraine. Same with Ijrail.
Why we or Palestinians are "enemy" , not friends? And why today we see that all these supposedly evil forces are so powerful?
Answer lies in how we behave and what is our behavior with the things around us.

Yes I do but this wasn't West German government help but rather commercial transactions made by Pakistani procurement networks with German firms such as Leybold-Heraeus. This was under the direction of A.Q. Khan. Regarding technical help again this was on a commercial basis from German engineers involved in procurement and technical work. The most high profile were German engineers such as Gotthard Lerch and Otto Heilingbrunner, who became involved in supplying specialised enrichment equipment. But what did the government do? The German authorities eventually investigated them for suspected violations of export-control laws.

The German government itself through decades has helped Israeli weapons programs from tank guns to small arms to submarines.

But anyway I don't want to go off-topic. The Germans made their bed and should lie in it.
 

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